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Falkirk Burns House


Anne Burgess
 

Thanks, Karin.

This means that it must have been demolished to make way for the Forth and Clyde Canal, rather than the Union Canal or any later development. So the canal company must have acquired the property, which means that there will be some record in the Registers of Sasines. These are in the National Records of Scotland, and the Abridgments of Sasines have been partly digitised, so when the system isn't being temperamental (it throws a wobbly from time to time) it shouldn't be too hard to find it. However it would mean a visit to the Historical Search Room in Edinburgh.

It might be worth dropping a line to Falkirk Archives, however. https://www.falkirk.gov.uk/services/sport-leisure-culture/heritage/archives.aspx - they are actually in Callander House, which is not far from the Union Canal.

Also, this was during the lifetime of Robert Burns (1859-1796) so it cannot have anything to do with him, and references to Ellisland, Dumfries etc are totally irrelevant.

Anne

-----Original Message-----
From: Scots@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io [mailto:Scots@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io] On Behalf Of Karina McHugh
Sent: 06 February 2020 21:44
To: Scots@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ScotGen] Falkirk Burns House

Hi Ann,
Unfortunately I don't know the dates. All I know is that when the canal was built, it was demolished. It probably was around 1790. The Henderson family lived there, they married into the Callender family.

Karina

----- Original Message -----
From: "ANGUS Administrator via Groups.Io" <angus.admin=btinternet.com@groups.io>
To: Scots@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, 6 February, 2020 17:09:51
Subject: Re: [ScotGen] Falkirk Burns House

As far as I know there are no canals anywhere near Ellisland, or in Dumfries-shire or Ayrshire.

Karina, when do you think this Burns House might have been demolished?

The Forth and Clyde Canal passes through Falkirk. It was opened in 1790. https://www.geograph.org.uk/snippet/19721

In 1822 the Union Canal, linking Edinburgh with the Forth and Clyde Canal, was opened. See https://www.geograph.org.uk/snippet/12001

In the 1930s the Union Canal was closed and the flight of locks at Falkirk was built on.

In the late 20th century the Union Canal was restored and the Falkirk Wheel was built to replace the flight of locks and reinstate the link between the two canals. http://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NS8580

So it would be really useful to know roughly when you think this 'Burns House' might have been demolished.

Also, do you think it had anything to do with Robert Burns, or are the references to places associated with him red herrings?

Anne




-----Original Message-----
From: Scots@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io [mailto:Scots@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io] On Behalf Of W David Samuelsen
Sent: 06 February 2020 05:46
To: Scots@scotland-genealogy.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ScotGen] Falkirk Burns House

Are you referring to Ellisland Farm site? Other houses are still standing (birthplace) and Dumfries.

David Samuelsen

On Wed, Feb 5, 2020 at 12:34 PM Karina McHugh <karinamchugh@... <mailto:karinamchugh@...> > wrote:


Anybody have any information about Burns House. It doesn't exist anymore, but was demolished to make way for a canal or something. I can't find anything about it. Hoping someone out there does.

Karina


Karina McHugh
 

Hi Ann,
Unfortunately I don't know the dates. All I know is that when the canal was built, it was demolished. It probably was around 1790. The Henderson family lived there, they married into the Callender family.

Karina

----- Original Message -----
From: "ANGUS Administrator via Groups.Io" <angus.admin=btinternet.com@groups.io>
To: Scots@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, 6 February, 2020 17:09:51
Subject: Re: [ScotGen] Falkirk Burns House

As far as I know there are no canals anywhere near Ellisland, or in Dumfries-shire or Ayrshire.

Karina, when do you think this Burns House might have been demolished?

The Forth and Clyde Canal passes through Falkirk. It was opened in 1790. https://www.geograph.org.uk/snippet/19721

In 1822 the Union Canal, linking Edinburgh with the Forth and Clyde Canal, was opened. See https://www.geograph.org.uk/snippet/12001

In the 1930s the Union Canal was closed and the flight of locks at Falkirk was built on.

In the late 20th century the Union Canal was restored and the Falkirk Wheel was built to replace the flight of locks and reinstate the link between the two canals. http://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NS8580

So it would be really useful to know roughly when you think this 'Burns House' might have been demolished.

Also, do you think it had anything to do with Robert Burns, or are the references to places associated with him red herrings?

Anne




-----Original Message-----
From: Scots@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io [mailto:Scots@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io] On Behalf Of W David Samuelsen
Sent: 06 February 2020 05:46
To: Scots@scotland-genealogy.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ScotGen] Falkirk Burns House

Are you referring to Ellisland Farm site? Other houses are still standing (birthplace) and Dumfries.

David Samuelsen

On Wed, Feb 5, 2020 at 12:34 PM Karina McHugh <karinamchugh@... <mailto:karinamchugh@...> > wrote:


Anybody have any information about Burns House. It doesn't exist anymore, but was demolished to make way for a canal or something. I can't find anything about it. Hoping someone out there does.

Karina


Karina McHugh
 

Thanks, very interested in Callendar House as well. My Hendersons married into the Callendar family.

Karina McHugh

----- Original Message -----
From: "W David Samuelsen" <sammyslc@...>
To: Scots@scotland-genealogy.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, 6 February, 2020 17:17:30
Subject: Re: [ScotGen] Falkirk Burns House

Don't forget this one - Ellisland Farm
https://www.ellislandfarm.co.uk/

David Samuelsen


On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 9:03 AM Ken Harrison <kenharrison43@...> wrote:

Photos 1 and 4 are of his home at Alloway, near Ayr and Brig o’ Doon.

Ken iPad

On Feb 6, 2020, at 1:29 AM, Lauraine Syrnick <lauraine.syrnick@...>
wrote:

I found the following:

Falkirk Burns House, Scotland - Image Results
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Syrnick
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On Feb 5, 2020, at 13:34, Karina McHugh <karinamchugh@...> wrote:

Anybody have any information about Burns House. It doesn't exist anymore,
but was demolished to make way for a canal or something. I can't find
anything about it. Hoping someone out there does.

Karina







 



On Wed, Feb 5, 2020 at 11:34 AM Karina McHugh <karinamchugh@...> wrote:
Anybody have any information about Burns House. It doesn't exist anymore, but was demolished to make way for a canal or something. I can't find anything about it. Hoping someone out there does.

Karina





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W David Samuelsen
 

Don't forget this one - Ellisland Farm

David Samuelsen 


On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 9:03 AM Ken Harrison <kenharrison43@...> wrote:
Photos 1 and 4 are of his home at Alloway, near Ayr and Brig o’ Doon.

Ken iPad

On Feb 6, 2020, at 1:29 AM, Lauraine Syrnick <lauraine.syrnick@...> wrote:

I found the following:




On Feb 5, 2020, at 13:34, Karina McHugh <karinamchugh@...> wrote:

Anybody have any information about Burns House. It doesn't exist anymore, but was demolished to make way for a canal or something. I can't find anything about it. Hoping someone out there does.

Karina





ANGUS Administrator
 

As far as I know there are no canals anywhere near Ellisland, or in Dumfries-shire or Ayrshire.

Karina, when do you think this Burns House might have been demolished?

The Forth and Clyde Canal passes through Falkirk. It was opened in 1790. https://www.geograph.org.uk/snippet/19721

In 1822 the Union Canal, linking Edinburgh with the Forth and Clyde Canal, was opened. See https://www.geograph.org.uk/snippet/12001

In the 1930s the Union Canal was closed and the flight of locks at Falkirk was built on.

In the late 20th century the Union Canal was restored and the Falkirk Wheel was built to replace the flight of locks and reinstate the link between the two canals. http://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NS8580

So it would be really useful to know roughly when you think this 'Burns House' might have been demolished.

Also, do you think it had anything to do with Robert Burns, or are the references to places associated with him red herrings?

Anne

-----Original Message-----
From: Scots@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io [mailto:Scots@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io] On Behalf Of W David Samuelsen
Sent: 06 February 2020 05:46
To: Scots@scotland-genealogy.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ScotGen] Falkirk Burns House

Are you referring to Ellisland Farm site? Other houses are still standing (birthplace) and Dumfries.

David Samuelsen

On Wed, Feb 5, 2020 at 12:34 PM Karina McHugh <karinamchugh@... <mailto:karinamchugh@...> > wrote:


Anybody have any information about Burns House. It doesn't exist anymore, but was demolished to make way for a canal or something. I can't find anything about it. Hoping someone out there does.

Karina


Ken Harrison
 

Photos 1 and 4 are of his home at Alloway, near Ayr and Brig o’ Doon.

Ken iPad

On Feb 6, 2020, at 1:29 AM, Lauraine Syrnick <lauraine.syrnick@...> wrote:

I found the following:




On Feb 5, 2020, at 13:34, Karina McHugh <karinamchugh@...> wrote:

Anybody have any information about Burns House. It doesn't exist anymore, but was demolished to make way for a canal or something. I can't find anything about it. Hoping someone out there does.

Karina





Martin Sweet
 

The one on the left is Burns Cottage in Alloway. It is well known as that and unlikely to be referred to as Burns House.

Best regards
Martin

On 5 Feb 2020, at 20:09, Lauraine Syrnick <lauraine.syrnick@...> wrote:

I found the following:




On Feb 5, 2020, at 13:34, Karina McHugh <karinamchugh@...> wrote:

Anybody have any information about Burns House. It doesn't exist anymore, but was demolished to make way for a canal or something. I can't find anything about it. Hoping someone out there does.

Karina






Lauraine Syrnick
 

On Feb 5, 2020, at 13:34, Karina McHugh <karinamchugh@...> wrote:

Anybody have any information about Burns House. It doesn't exist anymore, but was demolished to make way for a canal or something. I can't find anything about it. Hoping someone out there does.

Karina





W David Samuelsen
 

Are you referring to Ellisland Farm site? Other houses are still standing (birthplace) and Dumfries.

David Samuelsen

On Wed, Feb 5, 2020 at 12:34 PM Karina McHugh <karinamchugh@...> wrote:
Anybody have any information about Burns House. It doesn't exist anymore, but was demolished to make way for a canal or something. I can't find anything about it. Hoping someone out there does.

Karina




Karina McHugh
 

Anybody have any information about Burns House. It doesn't exist anymore, but was demolished to make way for a canal or something. I can't find anything about it. Hoping someone out there does.

Karina