AULD, NEILL, McDONALD, HENDERSON, SWAN, KEIR (KIER) and others
Glennis Austin
Hello to both the Old & New Lists for Scottish Genealogy
It has been many years and an email change since I posted my interests initially on Bulletin Boards, then on Rootsweb and my list of names has certainly grown. Apologies to those who might receive duplicate messages, my thinking being if Rootsweb is still going to be searchable I should update that as well. In due course further detail will be posted to the relevant new Rootsweb replacement lists on https://groups.io/ The following marriages took place between 1808 and 1892. Place names seem to be the main ones associated with the various families but no doubt there are other locations. Ayrshire - Kilmaurs, Kilmarnock, Tarbolton, Govan/Glasgow. Robert AULD m. Isabel (or Barbara?) ORR, William NEILL m. Agnes FINDLAY, Thomas AULD m. Janet NEILL, Agnes Finlay AULD m. Thomas HENDRY/HENDRIE, William Neill AULD m. Margaret McINTYRE Lanarkshire - Stonehouse, Dalziel, Bothwell, Motherwell, Govan/Glasgow. Robert AULD m. Catherine McDONALD, Euphemia McDonald AULD m. James Reid LEAN Isle of Tiree - Kenovay. Neil McDONALD m. Euphemia (Effy) MacDONALD Midlothian - Straiton, Liberton, Burdiehouse, Lasswade. William SWAN Snr m. Ann HENDERSON Fife - Torryburn, Crossford, Dunfermline. James HENDERSON m. Catherine KEIR/KIER - her parents may have been Peter KEIR and Margaret MATHEWSON. Cheers Glennis
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Re: Test
Lynne Roberts
Edie - Duncan Campbell, my ancestor, - all of the descendants of that family are through the marriages of their daughters, Katherine (Toothaker), Elizabeth (Rankin), Susanna (Wise), Isabella (Darst) - and one daughter of son Peter (my second great grandfather) and wife Elizabeth Winn - daughter named Emma Maline Campbell married Tallmadge Norwood - Peter's son William Henry died very young in the Civil War
. I have discovered many Norwood matches, but have been unable to weed out any Campbell matches among them. Only autosomal - no males. Duncan also had a son named William who migrated into "West Canady" and was evidently never heard from again. If you want to look further, check out my website at http://www.lynnesgenealogy.com - look at the Norwood files especially the "Pedigree - Family Group Sheet" file. Lynne
On Sat, Jan 18, 2020 at 4:41 PM Edie McArthur <rootsancestry57@...> wrote:
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Re: Test
HI Lynne
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Thanks very much for letting me view your website Lynne. I am going to put all of my sons and their fathers Y111 matches over, there are only nine men and the Campbell is amongst them. Only the furthest ancestor of the donors who bear the same surname as their ancestors, not the donors themselves. It will help our family and maybe anyone out there who have any of the men mentioned. I wished I was as intelligent as you and could create a website like that. I will show it to my son who does genealogy and we are both trying to break this wall down. He is a school teacher so may find the time one day to create a website. thanks again Edie McArthur
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Roll call of our DNA families, they differ from our surname of McARTHUR, familytreedna tested Y111 markers
Hi, I am hoping by posting the 9 furthest away ancestors of the nine Y111 DNA matches of my sons and their father, the McARTHUR family all born in Tasmania of scottish descent. However to date no McARTHUR surname matches. these are the 9 matches but only four surnames. Note, these are not the names of the donors, though the donors tohave the same surnames as their ancestors. Familytreedna tested. with the genetic distance at the Y111 marker level, some have Big Y and some also have familyfinder Farquhar MacDonald b1746 Reay, Caithness died 1842, Genetic distance 8 steps William MacDonald b1766, Farr, Sunderland, Genetic disance 8 steps Alexan ( I think this is Alexander) MacDonald b1779, Halkirk, Caithness died 1883 . Genetic distance9 steps Donald Carmichael, Isle of Lismore Genetic distance 9 steps Phagen Carmichael, no location mentioned, Genetic distance 9 steps Murdock Campbell, no Location mentioned, Genetic distance 9 steps George William Mackay b1885 and died 1918, Genetic distance 10 steps John MacDonald of Achscoriciate 1752-1840 Caithness, Genetic distance 10 steps Mr Daniel Francis MacNeil, Genetic Distance 10 Steps We have tested with MyHeritage, Ancestry.com both autosomal and All male line YDNA with Familytree maker. We are trying to find out where our McARTHUR family inherited the name of McARTHUR. It would appear the MacDONALD are the biggest contenders but even they may have inherited their name from one of the others. I know Heirs and landowners came by some of the names. Hopefully some one out there may have some of these names say for many generations and then we may get a clearer picture which of these family surnames should be ours. I realise the McARTHURS may have had that name for several generations but if that were the case we should have at least a few other McARTHUR Donors of DNA. Our John McARTHUR does not appear to have any siblings as there is no paper trail for any with same parents and we have no marriage to date of the reputed father Duncan McARTHUR and mother Margaret SMITH (no irregular marriage or proclamation) no location or autosomal match for Margaret SMITH either Hope someone recognises or knows someone who has these names. there are websites with them mentioned on google for some of them. Farquhar MacDonald is mentioned. Cant remember the others. DNA matches to the above Robert, and Malcolm McARTHUR another son is 67 marker and matches as well but there are more matches and false positves with the lower markers. the Y111 have flushed many of them out. Thanks in anticipation Edie McARTHUR
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Re: Kane
Josephine Conray
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Thank you very much for all the work you do for the list and also for the Kane site I did not know there was one, so I am on it know. Cheers Josephine Qld Aust
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From: Scots@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io [mailto:Scots@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bret Busby Sent: Sunday, 19 January 2020 9:49 AM To: Scots@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io Subject: Re: [SCT-Gen] Kane On Sat, 18 Jan 2020, Josephine Conray wrote: Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2020 22:33:30emails. Hello, Josephine. 1. You are one of the few people doing the right thing regarding your names of interest - (family) names of interest should be put in the message subject, so that they can be easily found, by people scanning the message subjects for anything that may be of interest. All subscribers to genealogy lists, should always do that. 2. You may be interested in the new group that is the replacement for the Rootsweb Kane mailing lists - see https://groups.io/g/Kane-genealogy It is new, and, still getting new members. If you are inclined, please join it and post an introductory message there, in addition to here. The more places in which a fisher casts, the more chance of catching something. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .............. "So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means." - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts", written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 ....................................................
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Re: Two suggestions regarding names of interest
On Sat, Jan 18, 2020 at 4:05 PM Bret Busby <bret@...> wrote: Hello. Thanks so much for saying this, Bret! Your subject line is your "advertising" -- especially to those folks who read this group in a weekly digest. Give them something they want to click on! The second, is, for each family name that you have, of interest, when Another good point. I have a number of surname lists too, and they are an excellent way to find cousin researchers. Locality lists are great because local people know the land, people and records. Surname lists focus on the family group through time and migrations. So they are both worth "fishing" in. Fish in all the ponds! Valorie
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Thank you! :)
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NICOLSON of Isle of Skye Scotland. Also ROSIE of Scotland.
Ian and Margaret Kelly <i_m_kelly@...>
Hi, I am researching my mother’s ancestors the NICOLSON family of Glenmore on the Isle of Skye. Parents are Murdoch NICOLSON & Mary MORRISON of Glenmore. They had five children as under, all born on Skye. Kenneth b. 1820 (no information) Allan b.1821 married Marion MACLEOD and emigrated to Canada 1862. Catharine b.1823 (no information) Archibald b.1828 married Margaret MACLEOD and stayed on Skye. Murdoch b.1834 married Marion MCINNES and emigrated to Australia 1858.
I am also interested in contacting anyone researching the ROSIE family of the Aberdeen/Ellon area. I have Margaret Macleod (Rita) Nicholson marrying George ROSIE in 1934.
Thank you, Ian Kelly, Queensland, Australia.
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Re: James Alexander Dallas GRAY 1866-1899
Rosemary
Hi Stuart,
On 18/01/2020 21:02, stuart.adam@outlook.com wrote: Ok - final thought -Listening :D I have also found a middle name associated with a very close friend who was a neighbour (found by accident on a census). You may want to examine the census listings for 1851/61/71 and see if any of the neighbours of James' parents had the surname DALLAS. Yes, its not likely, but I guess you are looking for any line of enquiry.I did wonder about it being the name from a friend but I couldn't see a way of finding out - your suggestion may be the proverbial needle in a haystack but certainly worth a look, Thank you, Rosemary Northumberland, UK
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Re: Invitation to join the Scots@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io group
Eliz Cook
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Lindsay Graham
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Surnames GARDNER; REDPATH; WRIGHT; ANDERSON; JOHNSTONE; OLIVER
Marjorie Ward
These are my husband John`s ancestors.
Mother`s family
GARDNER Thomas married Elizabeth ALLEN in Manchester in 1839. He may
be the one baptised at Port Glasgow in 1815 with parents David GARDNER &
Helen WALLACE. He definitely isn`t the one born in Ballatrae as he was
still in that village when our man was in Manchester.
John is descended from Thomas & Elizabeth`s granddaughter Helen.
Father`s family
REDPATH Andrew born Nenthorn 1840 – died Leith 1897. Married Beatrice
Tait ANDERSON in Hawick in 1871. Son of John Redpath & Jane (Jean) WRIGHT.
Grandson of George Redpath & Janet OLIVER plus Samuel Wright & Isabella
KER
ANDERSON Beatrice Tait born 1850 in Hawick – died N Leith 1894. Dau of
Robert Anderson & Helen Jane Bell JOHNSTONE. Granddaughter of James
Johnston(e) & Mary Galations.
John is descended from Andrew & Beatrice`s dau Isabella.
Marjorie
Ward, Derbyshire, UK Sources for Disley; Lyme Handley; Taxal & Whaley www.disley.net Sources for NWDby incl Chapel; Charlesworth; Chinley; Fernilee; Glossop; Hayfield; Hope Valley; Mellor & New Mills www.nwdbysources.uk John Ward Paintings: www.johnward-art.com
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Question about list
mmd39@...
Is it possible to get this list as a weekly digest? Thanks Margo
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Lochaber & North Argyll Family History Group.
Les Horn
Now that the Rootsweb Lists for Argyll and Inverness-shire are closing this is a good time to remind the old users of those Lists, and those who have since joined this, of the Parishes covered by the Lochaber & North Argyll Family History Group. The Group has a Facebook page.
The Group covers the Parishes in (north) Argyll which were subsumed into the Highland Region with the re-organisation in 1974, and those in Inverness-shire in Lochaber.
ARGYLL (Corran of) Ardgour (part of Ballachulish & Corran of Ardgour Quoad Sacra Parish [QSP]) Ardnamurchan (includes Kilchoan/Ardnamurchan Proper, Acharacle (below Loch Sheil) and Strontian/Sunart) Lismore & Appin ( includes Appin, (south) Ballachulish/Laroch and Glencoe, Duror, Kingairloch and Lismore) Morvern
INVERNESS-SHIRE (LOCHABER) Ardamurchan (includes Acharacle (above Loch Sheil), Arisaig and Moidart) Kilmallie (north of Loch Eil) was Argyll pre 1891 (north) Ballachulish, Kinlocheven & Onich (part of Ballachulish & Corran of Ardgour QSP]) Kilmonivaig (includes Invergarry and Spean) Small Isles (Canna & Sanday, Eigg, Muck and Rum South Morar (includes Mallaig),
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Re: Lochaber & North Argyll Family History Group.
Hi Thanks for useful information. Can you tell me if the Lismore is the Isle of Lismore or are they close, the males in my family have a DNA location as the Isle of Lismore, one of three locations. Thanks Edie McArthur
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Re: NICOLSON of Isle of Skye Scotland. Also ROSIE of Scotland.
Joan Smith
I notice you have Nicholson and Macleod going to Canada. I have a James Nicholson b.1826 and a Effie Macleod b.1836 coming from Scotland to Canada. They settled on P.E.I. It had to be around the early 1860s because my ggrandmother was born in 1864 on P.E.I. and her oldest sister was also born there. It seems the Nicholsons and Mcleods married each other often. The only thing I don't have are the parents of either James or Effie. I just know that they married in Scotland and then went to Canada. Would you have anything on the couple.
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From: Ian and Margaret Kelly <i_m_kelly@...> To: Scots@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io <Scots@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io> Sent: Sun, Jan 19, 2020 2:53 am Subject: [SCT-Gen] NICOLSON of Isle of Skye Scotland. Also ROSIE of Scotland. Hi,
I am researching my mother’s ancestors the NICOLSON family of Glenmore on the Isle of Skye.
Parents are Murdoch NICOLSON & Mary MORRISON of Glenmore.
They had five children as under, all born on Skye.
Kenneth b. 1820 (no information)
Allan b.1821 married Marion MACLEOD and emigrated to Canada 1862.
Catharine b.1823 (no information)
Archibald b.1828 married Margaret MACLEOD and stayed on Skye.
Murdoch b.1834 married Marion MCINNES and emigrated to Australia 1858.
I am also interested in contacting anyone researching the ROSIE family of the Aberdeen/Ellon area. I have Margaret Macleod (Rita) Nicholson marrying George ROSIE in 1934.
Thank you,
Ian Kelly, Queensland, Australia.
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Re: Lochaber & North Argyll Surmame McLeay
Eliz Cook
My McLeay family were in Breachachy Kilmorack in 1841. Ann Campbell, wife of Farquhar McLeay is on the 1841 census as crofters widow. One of the daughters married Simon Frazer of Beauly. The McLeay family remaining went to Tasmania on the Storm Cloud in 1855.
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When did Farquhar McLeay die and where is he buried? Who were his parents? Elizabeth
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Re: Lochaber & North Argyll Family History Group.
The island of Lismore is the only Lismore listed in the Ordnance Survey Name Books (1850s).
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However it makes up a united parish with Appin, on the adjacent mainland, so it is just possible that someone unfamiliar with the geography might get a bit confused. Anne
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From: Scots@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io [mailto:Scots@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io] On Behalf Of eamca1944@bigpond.com Sent: 19 January 2020 21:47 To: Scots@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io Subject: Re: [SCT-Gen] Lochaber & North Argyll Family History Group. Hi Thanks for useful information. Can you tell me if the Lismore is the Isle of Lismore or are they close, the males in my family have a DNA location as the Isle of Lismore, one of three locations. Thanks Edie McArthur ------ Original Message ------ From: leshorn44@gmail.com To: Scots@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io Sent: Monday, 20 Jan, 2020 At 6:18 AM Subject: [SCT-Gen] Lochaber & North Argyll Family History Group. Now that the Rootsweb Lists for Argyll and Inverness-shire are closing this is a good time to remind the old users of those Lists, and those who have since joined this, of the Parishes covered by the Lochaber & North Argyll Family History Group. The Group has a Facebook page. The Group covers the Parishes in (north) Argyll which were subsumed into the Highland Region with the re-organisation in 1974, and those in Inverness-shire in Lochaber. ARGYLL (Corran of) Ardgour (part of Ballachulish & Corran of Ardgour Quoad Sacra Parish [QSP]) Ardnamurchan (includes Kilchoan/Ardnamurchan Proper, Acharacle (below Loch Sheil) and Strontian/Sunart) Lismore & Appin ( includes Appin, (south) Ballachulish/Laroch and Glencoe, Duror, Kingairloch and Lismore) Morvern INVERNESS-SHIRE (LOCHABER) Ardamurchan (includes Acharacle (above Loch Sheil), Arisaig and Moidart) Kilmallie (north of Loch Eil) was Argyll pre 1891 (north) Ballachulish, Kinlocheven & Onich (part of Ballachulish & Corran of Ardgour QSP]) Kilmonivaig (includes Invergarry and Spean) Small Isles (Canna & Sanday, Eigg, Muck and Rum South Morar (includes Mallaig), -- eamca57
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Re: Lochaber & North Argyll Family History Group.
Edie McArthur
HI Anne, Can you direct me to where I can find a copy of that 1850 Ordnance Survey Name book would you have the website for that one please. I have viewed the Breadalbane Survey for 1767, so hopefully it is o the net somewhere. thanks Edie Mcarthur
On Mon, Jan 20, 2020 at 9:46 AM Anne Burgess via Groups.Io <anne.genlists=btinternet.com@groups.io> wrote: The island of Lismore is the only Lismore listed in the Ordnance Survey Name Books (1850s).
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