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Re: Message from a Group Moderator regarding the first message posted by each group member

Karina McHugh
 

Hi everybody, its ages since I posted. However I'll try again. I'm looking for information about a Burns House that used to exist in Falkirk back in the early 1800's and the Henderson and Calender families associated with it.

Regards,

Karina

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bret Busby" <@bretbusby>
To: Scots@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, 16 January, 2020 21:45:06
Subject: [SCT-Gen] Message from a Group Moderator regarding the first message posted by each group member

Hello.

I am a Moderator of this group - not the Group Owner. The Group Owner is
Valorie.

Please remember that the first message that any group member posts, is
subject to moderation.

This is one reason that it is a good idea for each group member to post
a message, as soon as possible.

--
Bret Busby
Armadale
West Australia
..............

"So once you do know what the question actually is,
  you'll know what the answer means."
- Deep Thought,
   Chapter 28 of Book 1 of
   "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:
   A Trilogy In Four Parts",
   written by Douglas Adams,
   published by Pan Books, 1992
....................................................


Re: First Post and list of names

Withington Family
 

Hello, I’m also from Hobart.
The Scottish families I am aware of are  Fulton, Bell, Aikman, Greenfield,Penny, Purvis ,Anderson, and Miller from Berwickshire and Clark, Sheers, Dewar,Branch,Alison and  Galloway from Fife.
We have DNA matches with several people with Henderson  and McMillan, but a can’t work out how they connect.
Yvonne
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


Re: New group question

 

Hi Rosemary,

On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 8:18 AM Rosemary <rosemary@...> wrote:
Hi All and thank you for setting up this new list.

Are we sending "proper" messages here yet? Or will everything be deleted
on March 2?

Thank you

Rosemary
Northumberland, UK

We'll delete all test messages. This for instance will be removed. Feel free to post queries, information and genealogy/family history questions here and in your old lists both. 

All the best,

Valorie 
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Re: Roll Call

Sue Dietz
 

I was going to direct this to Fiona (in this email) but not able to so will ask here:

Is there a Wilson DNA project in Scotland? Or only the one at familytreedna.com?

Sue fulk dietz

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Fiona Turnbull
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2020 4:42 AM
To: Scots@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SCT-Gen] Roll Call

 

Janet - I run the Turnbull DNA project and have Michael Robson's archives for the Turnbull book he was working on when he died.  Let me know if I can help in any way

Fiona Turnbull

 


New List for Scotland

Joseph Gillard
 

Hullo

This is a great initiative and worthy of the saying that out of adversity, comes success!

My interests in Scotland are BLAKIE/BLAIKIE and HALL in Rox, c1800 onwards who came to New Zealand in 1860. Also, DEANS, PURVES and BUCKHAM in Edinburgh and Stirling, c1800 onwards. They were convicted 1845-50 and earned a free passage to Tasmania.

Thanks

Joseph

New Zealand


Change in address for the group

 

Hello all, while in the midst of creating the group and subgroups, the address to send messages to the entire group (and not the subgroups, as I understand it - can anyone confirm or deny the truth of that?). 

main@scotland-genealogy.groups.io seemed not only uninspiring but incorrect. I had no idea that these changes would make it harder for people to find the group -- or to subscribe. 

Mea culpa. 


Group Email Addresses
Post: Scots@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io
Subscribe: Scots+subscribe@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io
Unsubscribe: Scots+unsubscribe@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io
Group Owner: Scots+owner@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io
Help: Scots+help@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io

If you are hearing any of your Rootsweb list subscribers complain of being unable to subscribe here, please write and tell me so. I would welcome more co-moderators alongside Bret and I. It's not a difficult job, although filling up the wiki with useful information, fine-tuning the subgroup settings, etc. take some minutes. Speak up and we can grant you the necessary powers.

Valorie


Hi from Canada

Goldie & Lido Doratti
 

And Thank you to the good folks who thought this idea up!!  Listers are wonderful folks, I have learned much from them!  Names in my Family Tree are -
INNES, PIRIE, SHEARER, EGO (Cairnie/Gartly/Huntly area).  The brick wall starts with a John Innes m a Thomson 1740 Gartly, had a baby same year, no sex, no name given and no witnesses related to either parent.  He remarried in 1744 Isobel Pirie from Kennethmont and had 4 sons, George 1745, John 1747, Alexander 1750, Adam 1751/2.  Adam is my proven line.  No idea what happened to the others.  I also have a McGREGOR tree, with a James who married Mgrt Allan from Grange 1766, and no idea who his parents were.  I suspect another James and Elizabeth McQueen from Cairnie.  Goldie 


Re: Change in address for the group

 

Err, I see that I didn't state that very clearly. The email to address this group is now Scots@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io. Previously it was Scotland-Genealogy@groups.io which will not work. Briefly it was main@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io - that will no longer work either.


Subgroup email addresses remain as they were originally assigned. 

Valorie

On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 2:50 PM Valorie Zimmerman via Groups.Io <valorie.zimmerman=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hello all, while in the midst of creating the group and subgroups, the address to send messages to the entire group (and not the subgroups, as I understand it - can anyone confirm or deny the truth of that?). 

main@scotland-genealogy.groups.io seemed not only uninspiring but incorrect. I had no idea that these changes would make it harder for people to find the group -- or to subscribe. 

Mea culpa. 


Group Email Addresses
Post: Scots@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io
Subscribe: Scots+subscribe@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io
Unsubscribe: Scots+unsubscribe@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io
Group Owner: Scots+owner@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io
Help: Scots+help@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io

If you are hearing any of your Rootsweb list subscribers complain of being unable to subscribe here, please write and tell me so. I would welcome more co-moderators alongside Bret and I. It's not a difficult job, although filling up the wiki with useful information, fine-tuning the subgroup settings, etc. take some minutes. Speak up and we can grant you the necessary powers.

Valorie


Re: Change in address for the group

Edie Mc
 

Hi Valorie,
I think I have it right after initial teething problems. I am subscribed under both my email servers now. Bigpond and gmail, the way I was at rootsweb lists. So hopefully I am properly subscribed.  I had been receiving and posting messages okay before that, but at the same time being told I wasnt subscribed. That now seems to have stopped. I had clicked on the main @scotland address like you told me to and was getting the error message each time.  All is okay now at the moment thanks.

I have posted messages but understand you saying those messages wont appear in the archives as this is just a test period, so the messages will have to be entered after 2 march.  Do I have that correct please?
regards
Edie McArthur
Tasmania




------ Original Message ------
From: "Valorie Zimmerman" <valorie.zimmerman@...>
To: Scots@scotland-genealogy.groups.io
Sent: Saturday, 18 Jan, 2020 At 9:50 AM
Subject: [SCT-Gen] Change in address for the group

Hello all, while in the midst of creating the group and subgroups, the address to send messages to the entire group (and not the subgroups, as I understand it - can anyone confirm or deny the truth of that?). 

main@scotland-genealogy.groups.io seemed not only uninspiring but incorrect. I had no idea that these changes would make it harder for people to find the group -- or to subscribe. 

Mea culpa. 


Group Email Addresses
Post: Scots@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io
Subscribe: Scots+subscribe@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io
Unsubscribe: Scots+unsubscribe@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io
Group Owner: Scots+owner@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io
Help: Scots+help@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io

If you are hearing any of your Rootsweb list subscribers complain of being unable to subscribe here, please write and tell me so. I would welcome more co-moderators alongside Bret and I. It's not a difficult job, although filling up the wiki with useful information, fine-tuning the subgroup settings, etc. take some minutes. Speak up and we can grant you the necessary powers.

Valorie
   


Re: Change in address for the group

 

Hi Edie,

On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 3:24 PM eamca1944@... <eamca1944@...> wrote:
Hi Valorie,
I think I have it right after initial teething problems. I am subscribed under both my email servers now. Bigpond and gmail, the way I was at rootsweb lists. So hopefully I am properly subscribed.  I had been receiving and posting messages okay before that, but at the same time being told I wasnt subscribed. That now seems to have stopped. I had clicked on the main @scotland address like you told me to and was getting the error message each time.  All is okay now at the moment thanks.

Happy to hear that thanks to Bret calling my attention to this problem, we appear to have it solved. 

I have posted messages but understand you saying those messages wont appear in the archives as this is just a test period, so the messages will have to be entered after 2 march.  Do I have that correct please?
regards
Edie McArthur
Tasmania

Actual genealogy and family history posts will stay. But we'll delete all the "testing" posts. Feel free to test and also post actual queries, data and questions about Scotland and Scots genealogy and family history.

Valorie
 
------ Original Message ------
From: "Valorie Zimmerman" <valorie.zimmerman@...>
To: Scots@scotland-genealogy.groups.io
Sent: Saturday, 18 Jan, 2020 At 9:50 AM
Subject: [SCT-Gen] Change in address for the group

Hello all, while in the midst of creating the group and subgroups, the address to send messages to the entire group (and not the subgroups, as I understand it - can anyone confirm or deny the truth of that?). 

main@scotland-genealogy.groups.io seemed not only uninspiring but incorrect. I had no idea that these changes would make it harder for people to find the group -- or to subscribe. 

Mea culpa. 


Group Email Addresses
Post: Scots@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io
Subscribe: Scots+subscribe@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io
Unsubscribe: Scots+unsubscribe@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io
Group Owner: Scots+owner@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io
Help: Scots+help@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io

If you are hearing any of your Rootsweb list subscribers complain of being unable to subscribe here, please write and tell me so. I would welcome more co-moderators alongside Bret and I. It's not a difficult job, although filling up the wiki with useful information, fine-tuning the subgroup settings, etc. take some minutes. Speak up and we can grant you the necessary powers.

Valorie
   



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Re: Change in address for the group

Edie Mc
 

Thanks Valorie.  I am glad I am not the only one having teething problems. But okay now.  Thanks for taking the list on.
Edie McArthur



------ Original Message ------
From: "Valorie Zimmerman" <valorie.zimmerman@...>
To: Scots@scotland-genealogy.groups.io
Sent: Saturday, 18 Jan, 2020 At 10:24 AM
Subject: Re: [SCT-Gen] Change in address for the group

Err, I see that I didn't state that very clearly. The email to address this group is now Scots@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io. Previously it was Scotland-Genealogy@groups.io which will not work. Briefly it was main@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io - that will no longer work either.


Subgroup email addresses remain as they were originally assigned. 

Valorie

On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 2:50 PM Valorie Zimmerman via Groups.Io <valorie.zimmerman=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hello all, while in the midst of creating the group and subgroups, the address to send messages to the entire group (and not the subgroups, as I understand it - can anyone confirm or deny the truth of that?). 

main@scotland-genealogy.groups.io seemed not only uninspiring but incorrect. I had no idea that these changes would make it harder for people to find the group -- or to subscribe. 

Mea culpa. 


Group Email Addresses
Post: Scots@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io
Subscribe: Scots+subscribe@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io
Unsubscribe: Scots+unsubscribe@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io
Group Owner: Scots+owner@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io
Help: Scots+help@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io

If you are hearing any of your Rootsweb list subscribers complain of being unable to subscribe here, please write and tell me so. I would welcome more co-moderators alongside Bret and I. It's not a difficult job, although filling up the wiki with useful information, fine-tuning the subgroup settings, etc. take some minutes. Speak up and we can grant you the necessary powers.

Valorie
   


Re: First Post and list of names

Edie Mc
 

HI Yvonne,
Initally  in the Y67marker of two of my three sons and their fathers familytreedna, we had a McMillan amongst the several branches belonging to the McArthur lineage, though no McArthur.  However, since I have done a Y111 for the boys father, We appeared to have dropped the McMillan match. My second son has done the BigY700 (for experts, which we are not), that hasnt helped though. That is most likely because we haven't found any matches to McArthur. We have no wayof knowing how far back our McARthur surname goes.   Was hoping it would have helped. As I stated previously Locations for our DNA families are Caithness, Sunderland and Lismore from the remaining men of the Y111 marker. I think that takes you back about 5 generations. Because we dont know which of the surnames became McArthur or when, at least we have locations of each f the other branch surnames.
regards Edie McArthur



------ Original Message ------
From: "Withington Family" <lwithing@...>
To: Scots@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io
Sent: Friday, 17 Jan, 2020 At 10:40 PM
Subject: Re: [SCT-Gen] First Post and list of names

Hello, I’m also from Hobart.
The Scottish families I am aware of are  Fulton, Bell, Aikman,  Greenfield,Penny, Purvis ,Anderson, and Miller from Berwickshire and Clark,  Sheers, Dewar,Branch,Alison and  Galloway from Fife.
We have DNA matches with several people with Henderson  and McMillan,  but a can’t work out how they connect.
Yvonne
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   


Re: New group question

Jim Tinlin
 

Thanks for adding me to the group, looking forward to more info.


Scottish family names

Scott Thomson
 

My Great-Grandfather John Thomson was born in 1834 in Arbroath, Angus/Forfar, married an Englishwoman and emigrated to the U.S. in 1855. His mother also was a Thomson, Helen, the daughter of William and Mary (Johnston) Thomson. HIs parents were James and Elizabeth (Strachan) Thomson. Before Arbroath, the Thomsons and Strachans were from Marykirk, Kincardineshire. Other family names on this line are Clark, Coupar/Coupar and possibly Nicol and Richardson.
Those are on my father’s side. On Mom’s side, the Campbells, Gillhams and Kirkpatrick came from Scotland via Northern Ireland.


Re: Surname Interests

Fay Sefton <ma.sefton@...>
 

Hi,
My family names include
Meikle, Marshall and Dale around the Torphechin area and Martin, Davie, Black, Flint and Fyfe in West Calder and Edinburgh,
Cheers,
Fay


James Alexander Dallas GRAY 1866-1899

Rosemary
 

Hi All,

James Alexander Dallas GRAY was my great grandfather and was born in 1866 in Edinburgh. I've always wondered where his middle name of Dallas came from.

None of his siblings have this as part of their name and, as I've worked on the family, I haven't found anyone with that name as a surname. He never gave any of his children that name either. There's just this one occurrence.

Maybe they just liked it - but I'd really like to find a better explanation :-)

Rosemary
Northumberland, UK


Re: Roll Call

Kenneth Baldwin
 

G’day Edie,

 

Thanks for contacting me.

 

Unfortunately I am unable to help you with the surnames that you are researching.

 

Wishing you luck in your search.

 

Regards

Greg Baldwin

 

From: Scots@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io <Scots@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io> On Behalf Of Edie McArthur via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, 18 January 2020 12:22 AM
To: Scots@scotland-genealogy.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SCT-Gen] Roll Call

 

I meant Shirley Baldwin hs a 21cm match with Rob McArthur.Bonnies is less cm.

Edie

 

On Sat, Jan 18, 2020 at 12:21 AM Edie McArthur <rootsancestry57@...> wrote:

Hi Greg,

Do you have a dna match with a Bonnie and a Shirley ona ancestry or do you have rellies of that name.  My former husband has both those ladies and Shirley has a 2cm match with  him.  i hav written to her just now to see where she machess. as she does also match with about four other shared matches.  I think they may be Scottish matches. Definitely one of the shared matches is a descendant of Rob and two of our sons great grandfathers daughter who was conceived in Scotland and she married a fellow William Walker also from Airlie in Scotland.  It is our McArthur  line I am most interested in.  So far no McArthur DNA but several names of different branches of the same lineage as McArthurs  I think McArthur is an inherited name.  Locations Caithness, Sunderland, Lismore.  Our John McArthur was in Cathcart, Renfrewshire, working at the time of his marrige in Cambuslang, Lanarkshire  2 December 1856.  Banns were read in CAthcart.  Trying also to find out which large farms there were in Cathcart at that time..OUr Scottish lines are.

McARTHUR, STEVENSON, ORMISTON. BALFOUR, , , STEVENSON Married into the SPEIRS. Isabella had an illegitimate daughter before her marriage to John McARTHURm Christina Stevenson CAMPBELL, daughter of William CAMPBELL a farmer at Cambuslang. , she married a Robert BLACK at Campsie, Stirlingshire. DOUGAL, LAING, ROBERTSON, BENNIE and WALKER of Stirlingshire, Sct..etc.

regards

Edie McArthur

Tasmania

 

On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 8:22 PM Kenneth Baldwin <kennethb@...> wrote:

Below are the Surnames that I’m researching in Scotland.

 

  • BRODIE - Parish of Boyndie, Banffshire, SCT;
  • CAMERON - Black Isle, SCT;
  • CLARK - Rhynie & Essie, Aberdeenshire SCT;
  • DEAN - Elgin, Elgin, SCT;
  • GRANT - Rhynie, Aberdeen, SCT;
  • INGLIS - Banff/Moray, SCT;
  • LAURANCE - Banff, SCT;
  • LUMSDEN - Banff, SCT>NZ;
  • MacDONALD - Inverness, SCT;
  • MELVIN - Elgin, Elgin, SCT;
  • McINTOSH - Inverness, SCT > Qld, AUS;
  • McINTOSH - Ross Shire, Scotland>Qld, AUS;
  • McKENZIE - Banff/Moray, SCT;
  • McLEAN - Garmouth, Moray, SCT>Qld, AUS;
  • McLEAVY - Jedburgh, Roxburgh, SCT>Qld, AUS;
  • OLIVER - Jedburgh, Roxburgh, SCT>Qld, AUS;
  • RAFFAN - Banff, SCT;
  • ROBERTSON - Ross & Cromarty, SCT;
  • SIMPSON - Banff/Moray, SCT;
  • SMITH – SCT; STUART - Moray, SCT

 

 

Regards

 

Greg Baldwin

Ferntree Gully, Victoria, Australia

Email: kennethb@...

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Re: Roll Call

Edie McArthur
 

Thanks for responding anyway Greg
Edie McArthur

On Sat, Jan 18, 2020 at 7:55 PM Kenneth Baldwin <kennethb@...> wrote:

G’day Edie,

 

Thanks for contacting me.

 

Unfortunately I am unable to help you with the surnames that you are researching.

 

Wishing you luck in your search.

 

Regards

Greg Baldwin

 

From: Scots@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io <Scots@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io> On Behalf Of Edie McArthur via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, 18 January 2020 12:22 AM
To: Scots@scotland-genealogy.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SCT-Gen] Roll Call

 

I meant Shirley Baldwin hs a 21cm match with Rob McArthur.Bonnies is less cm.

Edie

 

On Sat, Jan 18, 2020 at 12:21 AM Edie McArthur <rootsancestry57@...> wrote:

Hi Greg,

Do you have a dna match with a Bonnie and a Shirley ona ancestry or do you have rellies of that name.  My former husband has both those ladies and Shirley has a 2cm match with  him.  i hav written to her just now to see where she machess. as she does also match with about four other shared matches.  I think they may be Scottish matches. Definitely one of the shared matches is a descendant of Rob and two of our sons great grandfathers daughter who was conceived in Scotland and she married a fellow William Walker also from Airlie in Scotland.  It is our McArthur  line I am most interested in.  So far no McArthur DNA but several names of different branches of the same lineage as McArthurs  I think McArthur is an inherited name.  Locations Caithness, Sunderland, Lismore.  Our John McArthur was in Cathcart, Renfrewshire, working at the time of his marrige in Cambuslang, Lanarkshire  2 December 1856.  Banns were read in CAthcart.  Trying also to find out which large farms there were in Cathcart at that time..OUr Scottish lines are.

McARTHUR, STEVENSON, ORMISTON. BALFOUR, , , STEVENSON Married into the SPEIRS. Isabella had an illegitimate daughter before her marriage to John McARTHURm Christina Stevenson CAMPBELL, daughter of William CAMPBELL a farmer at Cambuslang. , she married a Robert BLACK at Campsie, Stirlingshire. DOUGAL, LAING, ROBERTSON, BENNIE and WALKER of Stirlingshire, Sct..etc.

regards

Edie McArthur

Tasmania

 

On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 8:22 PM Kenneth Baldwin <kennethb@...> wrote:

Below are the Surnames that I’m researching in Scotland.

 

  • BRODIE - Parish of Boyndie, Banffshire, SCT;
  • CAMERON - Black Isle, SCT;
  • CLARK - Rhynie & Essie, Aberdeenshire SCT;
  • DEAN - Elgin, Elgin, SCT;
  • GRANT - Rhynie, Aberdeen, SCT;
  • INGLIS - Banff/Moray, SCT;
  • LAURANCE - Banff, SCT;
  • LUMSDEN - Banff, SCT>NZ;
  • MacDONALD - Inverness, SCT;
  • MELVIN - Elgin, Elgin, SCT;
  • McINTOSH - Inverness, SCT > Qld, AUS;
  • McINTOSH - Ross Shire, Scotland>Qld, AUS;
  • McKENZIE - Banff/Moray, SCT;
  • McLEAN - Garmouth, Moray, SCT>Qld, AUS;
  • McLEAVY - Jedburgh, Roxburgh, SCT>Qld, AUS;
  • OLIVER - Jedburgh, Roxburgh, SCT>Qld, AUS;
  • RAFFAN - Banff, SCT;
  • ROBERTSON - Ross & Cromarty, SCT;
  • SIMPSON - Banff/Moray, SCT;
  • SMITH – SCT; STUART - Moray, SCT

 

 

Regards

 

Greg Baldwin

Ferntree Gully, Victoria, Australia

Email: kennethb@...

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Re: Surname Interests

junehenderson <junehenderson@...>
 

I'd like to throw my hat into the ring also. Surnames in my tree are
obviously Henderson (from Wick in Caithness), Buchanan from Dunbarton; Keith
& Wilson also Smith/Smyth/Smythe from Dublin; Liddell, Drysdale, Beattie,
Boothman Probably around Clackmannan/Sterlingshire and Craigie (Rutherglen)
& Craig.
Happy fishing everyone.
Regards,
June Henderson (nee Adams)

-----Original Message-----
From: Scots@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io
[mailto:Scots@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io] On Behalf Of Fay Sefton via
Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, 18 January 2020 2:21 PM
To: Scots@scotland-genealogy.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SCT-Gen] Surname Interests

Hi,
My family names include
Meikle, Marshall and Dale around the Torphechin area and Martin, Davie,
Black, Flint and Fyfe in West Calder and Edinburgh, Cheers, Fay


Re: James Alexander Dallas GRAY 1866-1899

stuart.adam@...
 

Trying to think out of the box here ... There is a place called Dallas in Moray.  It is not unheard of to use a favourite place as an additional middle name.  If you have evidence of the parents or other close family living, visiting, or originating from Moray, then this would be a possibility.

Regards
Stuart