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I am researching my great great great gandfather Daniel Mc Alpin. I know he was born in Islay in 1752 and moved to the states. He married Catherine Isabella Mumm. Where can I find archives or possible information on this parents. Thanks, Bev Ohnstad 752

Bev Ohnstad
 



Re: SHAW family

Elaine Jefferson
 

The McEwen side of things I am related to  The family came from Helensburgh  ior RHU some went to Glasgow and my 3X gand father came to Melbourne 1852 He died 1856 from Liver complaint Katherine  was sister of Archibald and both kids of John McEwan and Mary Crawford  Katherine brother Archibald married Catherine Denny,  Katherine married Hugh Shaw Their other sister married William Lang and other sister married  Robert Hannah or Hanan

Been at this for 2o odd years still havent progressed far as I would like
elaine

On Thu, Oct 14, 2021 at 10:27 PM Josephine Conray <javc@...> wrote:

Hi Elaine

 

I saw your email to Ann where you say “I am related to the mother way back when. I know nothing of this family”. Do you mean Katherine McEwen as there are a couple of family trees on Ancestry giving some info on her parents and Grandparents.

Katherine did have a brother Archibald McEwan married to Catherine Denny on 1 Feb 1759 Rosneath.

 

Cheers

Josephine.

Qld Aust.

 

 

 

From: Scots@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io [mailto:Scots@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io] On Behalf Of Elaine Jefferson
Sent: Wednesday, 13 October 2021 4:37 PM
To: Scots@scotland-genealogy.groups.io
Subject: [ScotGen] SHAW family

 

 

Hoping some one can help with this elusive family  Katherine McEwen born 1765 Dumbartonshire married Hugh Shaw 1786 Rhu Dunbartonshire This came from Scotlands people with very little to go on  I dont know anything of Hugh Shaw nor where he came from The Registers for GLASGOW shows their children,,

Mary Shaw 1787 Glasgow

Elisabeth Shaw 1789 Glasgow

John Shaw 1791 Glasgow

Archibald Shaw 179i3 Glasgow

Tried the 1841 Census in hopes of seeing this family  Nothing If anyone can help would be great I have been trying for X amout of years

 

Heres hoping

thanks Elaine J


Re: hugh shaw and family

Margaret McNab
 



Margaret

On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 11:23 AM, Elaine Jefferson
<elainej100@...> wrote:
Update on Hugh Shaw and family
The register per Scotlands people shows the marriage fir Hugh Shaw and Katherine McEwen He says he came from Roseneath  and she from Dumbartonshire
on the Baptisms for all the kids in Glasgow He says his trade  Marble Cutter and I still cant find any deaths  There is one hUgh Shaw in the Wills section but it isnt him Tried for Katherine nothing 
The 1841 Census shows a Hugh Shaw still dont know
 I still need some help if anyone can unravel this family

thanks elaine j


Re: SHAW family

Josephine Conray
 

Hi Elaine

 

I saw your email to Ann where you say “I am related to the mother way back when. I know nothing of this family”. Do you mean Katherine McEwen as there are a couple of family trees on Ancestry giving some info on her parents and Grandparents.

Katherine did have a brother Archibald McEwan married to Catherine Denny on 1 Feb 1759 Rosneath.

 

Cheers

Josephine.

Qld Aust.

 

 

 

From: Scots@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io [mailto:Scots@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io] On Behalf Of Elaine Jefferson
Sent: Wednesday, 13 October 2021 4:37 PM
To: Scots@scotland-genealogy.groups.io
Subject: [ScotGen] SHAW family

 

 

Hoping some one can help with this elusive family  Katherine McEwen born 1765 Dumbartonshire married Hugh Shaw 1786 Rhu Dunbartonshire This came from Scotlands people with very little to go on  I dont know anything of Hugh Shaw nor where he came from The Registers for GLASGOW shows their children,,

Mary Shaw 1787 Glasgow

Elisabeth Shaw 1789 Glasgow

John Shaw 1791 Glasgow

Archibald Shaw 179i3 Glasgow

Tried the 1841 Census in hopes of seeing this family  Nothing If anyone can help would be great I have been trying for X amout of years

 

Heres hoping

thanks Elaine J


Testaments

orange.wasps
 

Can anyone tell me where I can obtain a copy of a testament, which was confirmed in Duns in 1930?

 

Ruth


Re: SHAW family

Elaine Jefferson
 

Ann
You found the same as I did NIL  I am related to the mother way back when. I know nothing of this family. It is possible they emigrated but to where is the burning question, Passenger lists usin Ancestry begin way to late and Shaw ? My husband has Shaw also but not related His come from the Isle of Harris and just about every second person is Shaw
Thank you for taking a look Its been a dead end for many years Being a Marble Cutter, that must mean  he cut slabs for head stone?

Elaine in Australia

On Thu, Oct 14, 2021 at 8:02 PM Anne Burgess via groups.io <anne.genlists=btinternet.com@groups.io> wrote:
[Edited Message Follows]

I searched the deaths index on Scotland's People for deaths of Shaw, mother's maiden surname m*c*w*n, born 1790 plus or minus 5 years. There were no results.

So it seems that there are no records of the deaths of any of the children after 1855.

See https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=854115.msg7221948#msg7221948

Perhaps they all emigrated? Which one are you descended from?






Re: SHAW family

Anne Burgess
 
Edited

I searched the deaths index on Scotland's People for deaths of Shaw, mother's maiden surname m*c*w*n, born 1790 plus or minus 5 years. There were no results.

So it seems that there are no records of the deaths of any of the children after 1855.

See https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=854115.msg7221948#msg7221948

Perhaps they all emigrated? Which one are you descended from?


Re: Melrose Australia - William Melrose born 16th April 1881 Laphope

Cas Houston
 

Hi,

I have a lot of data on MELROSE families.

This tree goes back to a John Melrose b abt 1752  and Rachel Frazer at Stow, Midlothian.

William was born16th April 1881 at Ladhope, his parents were Alexander Melrose and Catheine Elder.

Jessie (Janet) Scott Dobsons was born Ladhope 1882, her parents were John Dobson and Janet Johnstone.

This Melrose Tree top is as attached in a TEXT file.

Regards

Charles Houston - not related to anyone on this tree ( so far)

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hugh shaw and family

Elaine Jefferson
 

Update on Hugh Shaw and family
The register per Scotlands people shows the marriage fir Hugh Shaw and Katherine McEwen He says he came from Roseneath  and she from Dumbartonshire
on the Baptisms for all the kids in Glasgow He says his trade  Marble Cutter and I still cant find any deaths  There is one hUgh Shaw in the Wills section but it isnt him Tried for Katherine nothing 
The 1841 Census shows a Hugh Shaw still dont know
 I still need some help if anyone can unravel this family

thanks elaine j


SHAW family

Elaine Jefferson
 


Hoping some one can help with this elusive family  Katherine McEwen born 1765 Dumbartonshire married Hugh Shaw 1786 Rhu Dunbartonshire This came from Scotlands people with very little to go on  I dont know anything of Hugh Shaw nor where he came from The Registers for GLASGOW shows their children,,
Mary Shaw 1787 Glasgow
Elisabeth Shaw 1789 Glasgow
John Shaw 1791 Glasgow
Archibald Shaw 179i3 Glasgow
Tried the 1841 Census in hopes of seeing this family  Nothing If anyone can help would be great I have been trying for X amout of years

Heres hoping
thanks Elaine J


Re: Melrose

Josephine Conray
 

Hi Bob

 

The information that I sent you before was from the head stone of the family graves. The Melrose family appear all to have lived in Geelong, Victoria. Aust

 

It looks like William & Janet had a child called Alexander Melrose, the first time I saw this name was on the headstone of William’s father Alexander Melrose which gave the dates of deaths Alexander & Catherine, William & Janet, Andrew, and a grandson Alexander and said died in Hobart Tasmania Aust. I think this was at Eastland Cemetery Galashields, Scottish Borders, Scotland

 

I search the Tasmania archives and did find the following:-- Melrose Alexander died at 48 Molle Street Hobart, burial 27 March 1921 he was 3 months old the son of William Melrose. I am not sure if this is the child of William & Janet there was no other info.

I just cannot work out why they are in Tasmania, will look into that later.

 

On the Australia Electoral Rolls 1903-1980 before 1931 I cannot find any records for William and his family the first time is

 

1931 Catherine Elder Melrose living at 5 Maud Street Geelong Vic - she a textile worker

1934  Catherine living at the same address

1934 Jessie  living 5 Maud St Geelong - she a Dressmaker

1934 William living at the same address -he a Warper

 

1936 Catherine, Jessie William all living at 5 Maud St Geelong and Williams new wife is with them Marjorie Irene Stringer

1937 All at the same address.

 

Catherine Elder Melrose married 1938 in Geelong to Richard Turnbull Kemp Reg/no 15343 and she died 24 Sep 1991 Geelong Vic. Buried Point Lonsdale Geelong  at Queenscliff Cemetery.

Richard Kemp born 25 March 1910 and died 26 Jan 1980 Geelong, Vic. Reg/no 02743

You can look up all the BDM on this sit below, I think the coast of a certificate is 20.00 Aus dollars

 

https://www.bdm.vic.gov.au/research-and-family-history/search-your-family-history

 

 

Jessie Johnstone Melrose 1944 in Geelong to Roy Francis McKim she died 16 July 1954 in Geelong .Roy was born 20 Aug 1907 in Geelong and Died 24 Nov 1985 in Belmont, Geelong. It looks like they had two children Hedley and Janet

 

This below is the death notice for Janet Melrose as you will see there is  Alexander as one of the children.

 

The Australia and New Zealand, Find a Grave Index, 1800s-Current.  Find a Grave

 

Death Notice
MELROSE — On the 20th November, 1926, at a private hospital, Geelong. Janet, the dearly loved wife of William Melrose of 5 Maude Street, Geelong, and devoted mother of Jessie, Catherine, and Alexander (deceased); formerly of Galashiels, Scotland. Aged 44 years.
Geelong Advertiser
22 Nov 1926

 

If you go onto this site it below you can see the graves, if it does not work send me your email.

 

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/164783327/janet-scott-melrose

 

 

Hope this helps

Cheers

Josephine

Qld Aust.

 

 

 

 

 

From: Scots@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io [mailto:Scots@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bob Elder via groups.io
Sent: Monday, 11 October 2021 7:13 PM
To: Scots@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io
Subject: [ScotGen] Melrose

 

Hi Josephine.

 

Thank you for the information on my Melrose family.

 

As I’m in the UK is it possible for me to find put further information & how would I go about it,

 

Many thanks.

 

Bob


Alexander McCanch family

ladybud42@...
 

I am wondering if anyone is researching the McCanch family from Scotland.  I have information some information on Alexander McCanch born in 1844 in Old Monkland, Lanark.  Nothing of family before that.  Thank, Judy McCartney


Re: William & Agnes McKIE returning to Scotland pre 1949?

Anne Burgess
 

Aha! Got it. Searched for McKie, given name Thom*on.

There is a birth in Dumfries in 1907 indexed as Walker Thomson McKie, not as Walter Thomson McKie.

That does seem to pin him down quite satisfactorily.

Though if he was born on 10 April, he was actually a week short of being aged 4 on census day, which was 2 April 1911, and should have been recorded as aged 3. But that is very minor.

Anne


Re: William & Agnes McKIE returning to Scotland pre 1949?

Robert N. G. KEMSLEY <robtricia@...>
 

Evening Anne;

I don't know the connection to family in Canada as my mother suggested, but for her to have said that, indicates there is something there, family wise?
I wonder if my mother knew of Walter's past, seeing she lived with him for 43 years?

I know I've seen it somewhere, but cannot readily lay my hands on at present and it's not in the folder, but Walter always celebrated his birthday on the 10th of April each year and I've him born 10 April 1907, Netherwood Cottage, Dumfries, Dumfriesshires, Scotland.

And yes; I've the 1911 Census; Berscar Cottage, Dumfries with the parents as William & Agnes with 6 children which includes Walter 4 Born 1907.
It also records Mary THOMPSON a visitor who would be Agnes's Mother.

Yes; it would be great to have access to the 1921 census as Walter would be in there somewhere as he didn't emigrate to western Australia until 1926.

Robert

-----Original Message-----
From: Scots@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io [mailto:Scots@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io] On Behalf Of Anne Burgess via groups.io
Sent: Monday, 11 October 2021 7:29 PM
To: Scots@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ScotGen] William & Agnes McKIE returning to Scotland pre 1949?

Thank you. It does to the extent of proving that the family who emigrated to Canada are a red herring.

There remains the problem that there is no record of his birth in Dumfries as Walter McKie in 1907, so his birth is **not** proved.

You need to find William McKie and Agnes Thomson in the 1911 census (and, even better, in the 2021 when it is eventually released next year) and see if they had a son Walter.


Melrose

Bob Elder
 

Hi Josephine.

 

Thank you for the information on my Melrose family.

 

As I’m in the UK is it possible for me to find put further information & how would I go about it,

 

Many thanks.

 

Bob


Re: William & Agnes McKIE returning to Scotland pre 1949?

Anne Burgess
 

Thank you. It does to the extent of proving that the family who emigrated to Canada are a red herring.

There remains the problem that there is no record of his birth in Dumfries as Walter McKie in 1907, so his birth is **not** proved.

You need to find William McKie and Agnes Thomson in the 1911 census (and, even better, in the 2021 when it is eventually released next year) and see if they had a son Walter.


Re: William & Agnes McKIE returning to Scotland pre 1949?

Robert N. G. KEMSLEY <robtricia@...>
 

Morning Anne:

The message to the list from Valorie was in reply to my posting on the 21 August and thus the confusion and in the interim; I have learnt ever so very much from the list.
Initially I was looking for the family in Canada where my mother told the extended family they were and perhaps some elements of the family may be there; but the family I am particularly interested in remained in the UK with Walter Thomson McKIE emigrating to western Australia where he claimed to have been with a Brother which has since proved to be correct as well as other clues he dropped over the years.

" William McKie and Agnes Thomson were married in 1897 in Kirkpatrick Durham, Kirkcudbrightshire. Again, their marriage certificate will tell you the names of their parents. William McKie, widower of Agnes Thomson, died in Thornhill (Morton registration district) in 1952. His wife Agnes died in Irongray in 1949."

This is the family I've been following as I believe it is the family sought and because it fits is what was already known of Walter.

" Why do you think that Walter Thomson McKinnin was the son of William McKie and Agnes Thomson, by the way?"

Because although Walter was most secretive about his past, along the way he did drop clues and one of these was that Agnes THOMPSON was his mother which until recently; was but a poser, but it's now revealed that this piece of information was correct.
Walter also claimed he was born Belfast, Ireland 1900-1914 with a mention of Scotland.
But; it's now been proven that he was born Scotland in 1907.

It's a pity that both Walter and my Mother are not around today to be confronted with the truth and then perhaps they may have revealed all and saved a heck of a lot of further researching for the truth?

I trust the above clears up all the misunderstanding?

Robert

Australia


Re: Melrose Australia

Morag Fowler
 

Young Janet was registered as Jessie Johnstone Melrose, born in Galashiels, Co of Selkirk. Can’t trace her death between 1945 and 1955, with any variant of Janet/Jessie.
Best wishes,
Morag

On 10 Oct 2021, at 13:31, Bob Elder via groups.io <relder=tiscali.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:

I have rechecked my files I think both William & Janet died in Australia about 1947.

Sorry about that.

Bob

-----Original Message-----
From: Scots@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io [mailto:Scots@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bob Elder via groups.io
Sent: 10 October 2021 12:51
To: Scots@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io
Subject: [ScotGen] Melrose Australia

I have only found one of my ancestor travelled to Australia Melbourne 1920

William Melrose born 1881 Ladhope Scotland

Janet Scott Melrose nee Dobson born 1882 Ladhope

Janet Johnstone Melrose born 1907 Ladhope

Catherine Elder Melrose born 1910 Ladhope.

Janet I believe return home to Scotland & died about 1951.

Any help in anyway gratefully received.

Bob













Re: Melrose Australia

Josephine Conray
 

Hi Bob

William Melrose died 27 June 1947 in Geelong Victoria Australia.

Janet Scot Melrose Died 20 Nov 1926 Geelong Victoria Aust.

Catherine Elder Melrose died 24 Sep 1991 in Geelong Victoria. Married Richard Turnbull Kemp in 1938

Jessie Janet Johnstone Melrose 16 July 1954 Geelong Victoria married Roy Francis McKim 1944

They all arrived on the ship "Commonwealth" on 22 July 1920

Looks like William may have remarried to a Marjorie Irene Stringer b1898-1995

Hope this is the right family

Cheers
Josephine
Qld AUST.

-----Original Message-----
From: Scots@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io [mailto:Scots@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bob Elder via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, 10 October 2021 9:51 PM
To: Scots@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io
Subject: [ScotGen] Melrose Australia

I have only found one of my ancestor travelled to Australia Melbourne 1920

William Melrose born 1881 Ladhope Scotland


Janet Scott Melrose nee Dobson born 1882 Ladhope

Janet Johnstone Melrose born 1907 Ladhope

Catherine Elder Melrose born 1910 Ladhope.

Janet I believe return home to Scotland & died about 1951.

Any help in anyway gratefully received.

Bob


Re: Melrose Australia

Bob Elder
 

I have rechecked my files I think both William & Janet died in Australia about 1947.

Sorry about that.

Bob

-----Original Message-----
From: Scots@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io [mailto:Scots@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bob Elder via groups.io
Sent: 10 October 2021 12:51
To: Scots@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io
Subject: [ScotGen] Melrose Australia

I have only found one of my ancestor travelled to Australia Melbourne 1920

William Melrose born 1881 Ladhope Scotland

Janet Scott Melrose nee Dobson born 1882 Ladhope

Janet Johnstone Melrose born 1907 Ladhope

Catherine Elder Melrose born 1910 Ladhope.

Janet I believe return home to Scotland & died about 1951.

Any help in anyway gratefully received.

Bob

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