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Re: James Alexander Dallas GRAY 1866-1899

stuart.adam@...
 

Ok - final thought - I have also found a middle name associated with a very close friend who was a neighbour (found by accident on a census). You may want to examine the census listings for 1851/61/71 and see if any of the neighbours of James' parents had the surname DALLAS.  Yes, its not likely, but I guess you are looking for any line of enquiry. Good luck!
Regards
Stuart


Re: Test

Ray Rob
 

Well received in New Zealand


On Sun, Jan 19, 2020 at 7:46 AM Jim Tinlin <jimtinlin@...> wrote:
Testing as well, didn't see my last one.


Re: Test

Jim Tinlin
 

Testing as well, didn't see my last one.


Re: Surname Interests

Marion Grenyer
 

Hi June,

I have Beattie in my family too. They went down to Liverpool and then Dublin.

Regards

Marion

On 18 Jan 2020, at 09:43, junehenderson <junehenderson@iinet.net.au> wrote:

I'd like to throw my hat into the ring also. Surnames in my tree are
obviously Henderson (from Wick in Caithness), Buchanan from Dunbarton; Keith
& Wilson also Smith/Smyth/Smythe from Dublin; Liddell, Drysdale, Beattie,
Boothman Probably around Clackmannan/Sterlingshire and Craigie (Rutherglen)
& Craig.
Happy fishing everyone.
Regards,
June Henderson (nee Adams)

-----Original Message-----
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Hi,
My family names include
Meikle, Marshall and Dale around the Torphechin area and Martin, Davie,
Black, Flint and Fyfe in West Calder and Edinburgh, Cheers, Fay







Thanks for invite

Karen Begley-Kozak
 


Morning this is my first post and thanks for the invite. My line is McArthur. Isabella McArthur born Oct 1816 Fort William Inverness-shire. Dau of Alexander McArthur and Isabelka Chisholm ??mother is an uncertainty. She married John Begly- born in Ireland and immigrated to scotland with his parents. They had 4 boys and 2 of the boys immigrated to Canada  abt 1871. 1 would have been my 2nd great grandfather Alexander Begley. Apparently he changed the name when he came over.  Thanks. Karen.  My other name in history is Cain they are brick walls. Thanks


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Re: Surname Interests

Eliz Cook
 

Hi all,
I am chasing up my McLeay line from Blarnabee, Ross and Breachachy Inverness.They married McIvor, Campbell and Frasers.
They went to Tasmania Australia in 1855 and Colin McLeay married Alexandrina Munro from Armadale Scotland; they met in Victoria Australia.
In particular I am looking for the death of Farquhar McLeay about 1836.
His youngest son Colin is in the parish registers at Kilmorack in 1836 and his wife Ann McLeay née Campbell is listed as a Crofters widow in the 1941 Kilmorack census.
There was a newspaper report when his daughter Ann died in Tasmania that she was the granddaughter of Donald McLeay of the 77th Rosshire Heilanders.
I am interested in this Donald McLeay.

Eliz

On 18 Jan 2020, at 8:43 pm, junehenderson <junehenderson@iinet.net.au> wrote:

I'd like to throw my hat into the ring also. Surnames in my tree are
obviously Henderson (from Wick in Caithness), Buchanan from Dunbarton; Keith
& Wilson also Smith/Smyth/Smythe from Dublin; Liddell, Drysdale, Beattie,
Boothman Probably around Clackmannan/Sterlingshire and Craigie (Rutherglen)
& Craig.
Happy fishing everyone.
Regards,
June Henderson (nee Adams)

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Saturday, 18 January 2020 2:21 PM
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Subject: Re: [SCT-Gen] Surname Interests

Hi,
My family names include
Meikle, Marshall and Dale around the Torphechin area and Martin, Davie,
Black, Flint and Fyfe in West Calder and Edinburgh, Cheers, Fay







New to the list

Norman Woods
 

I’m searching for the following, have them back to Northern Ireland but can’t make the connection to Scotland: Thomas McClelland married to Annie Beattie, Susanna Elder married to William Abernethy on my mother’s side; on my dads side Eliza (Elizabeth) Kearney married to John Woods. Any help would be greatly appreciated.


Re: Message from a Group Moderator regarding the first message posted by each group member

J Hansen
 

Hi Bret and everyone,

Just for starters, here are some of my Scottish surnames with more-or-less specific locales:
Gardner/Wilson- Glasgow, late 1700s- mid-1800s (I believe they came from elsewhere to work in the textile factories, but that's just speculation). 
Colden- Borders region, mid-to-late 1600s to mid-1700s- at least 2 generations were ministers and lived in several different towns including Duns, Oxnam, Bunkle, Whitsome
Christie- Kelso- late 1600s to early 1700s
Rhind- Aberdeenshire and Banchory-Devenick- mid-1700s to early 1800s
Ross- Aberdeen/Aberdeenshire- 1700s+

     Juliann

"42 is the answer to life, the universe, and everything."- Douglas Adams


Re: Message from a Group Moderator regarding the first message posted by each group member

jlsandgate@...
 

·       I'm not too sure how to post so thought I would try by replying to Bret's post - advice would be appreciated. My interests are as follows:
      
      
          WAUGH – in Castleton, Newcastleton, Stapleton
·         BALLENTINE – Castleton, Newcastleton
·         FORRESTER - Stapleton
·         BROWN – Rockcliffe
·         JOHNSTONE – Rockcliffe, Blackford, Stapleton
·         RICHARDSON, NIXON – Blackford...
·         TURNBULL – Brampton – Scotland
·         LITTLE – Langholm
·         ARMSTRONG – Lanercost –
·         FLETCHER - Lanercost
·         DAVIDSON – Langholm, Castleton, Brampton
 
...and more.  The above list is completed in haste I will update in the near future, having visited Castleton, Newcastleton, Langholm, Rockcliffe etc last summer will be concentrating on the Waugh and Ballentine and border families this year.  We have only been able to get back to a Thomas WAUGH and Christon Ballentine in Castleton/Newcastleton late 1700’s .  We went to the local Museum in Newcastleton and  a very knowledgeable curator, Anne, could tell us where they lived when their children were born from the places on the baptism page.  Tales of Bothies and how big they were to how Castleton moved to Newcastleton,  a lovely place.
 
Jane Williams

-----Original Message-----
From: Bret Busby <bret@...>
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Sent: Thu, 16 Jan 2020 21:45
Subject: [SCT-Gen] Message from a Group Moderator regarding the first message posted by each group member

Hello.

I am a Moderator of this group - not the Group Owner. The Group Owner is
Valorie.

Please remember that the first message that any group member posts, is
subject to moderation.

This is one reason that it is a good idea for each group member to post
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Test

Judy Last
 

I sent a previous message which didn't work out as I expected, so this is a test.

Judy Last


Re: James Alexander Dallas GRAY 1866-1899

Rosemary
 

Hi Stuart,

Good thought - but none of his ancestors, as far as I know, were associated with Moray. They're all from Midlothian particularly Edinburgh and Dalkeith

Rosemary
Northumberland, UK

On 18/01/2020 08:29, stuart.adam@outlook.com wrote:
Trying to think out of the box here ... There is a place called Dallas in Moray.  It is not unheard of to use a favourite place as an additional middle name.  If you have evidence of the parents or other close family living, visiting, or originating from Moray, then this would be a possibility.
Regards
Stuart


Re: James Alexander Dallas GRAY 1866-1899

stuart.adam@...
 

Trying to think out of the box here ... There is a place called Dallas in Moray.  It is not unheard of to use a favourite place as an additional middle name.  If you have evidence of the parents or other close family living, visiting, or originating from Moray, then this would be a possibility.

Regards
Stuart


Re: Surname Interests

junehenderson <junehenderson@...>
 

I'd like to throw my hat into the ring also. Surnames in my tree are
obviously Henderson (from Wick in Caithness), Buchanan from Dunbarton; Keith
& Wilson also Smith/Smyth/Smythe from Dublin; Liddell, Drysdale, Beattie,
Boothman Probably around Clackmannan/Sterlingshire and Craigie (Rutherglen)
& Craig.
Happy fishing everyone.
Regards,
June Henderson (nee Adams)

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Saturday, 18 January 2020 2:21 PM
To: Scots@scotland-genealogy.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SCT-Gen] Surname Interests

Hi,
My family names include
Meikle, Marshall and Dale around the Torphechin area and Martin, Davie,
Black, Flint and Fyfe in West Calder and Edinburgh, Cheers, Fay


Re: Roll Call

Edie McArthur
 

Thanks for responding anyway Greg
Edie McArthur

On Sat, Jan 18, 2020 at 7:55 PM Kenneth Baldwin <kennethb@...> wrote:

G’day Edie,

 

Thanks for contacting me.

 

Unfortunately I am unable to help you with the surnames that you are researching.

 

Wishing you luck in your search.

 

Regards

Greg Baldwin

 

From: Scots@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io <Scots@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io> On Behalf Of Edie McArthur via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, 18 January 2020 12:22 AM
To: Scots@scotland-genealogy.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SCT-Gen] Roll Call

 

I meant Shirley Baldwin hs a 21cm match with Rob McArthur.Bonnies is less cm.

Edie

 

On Sat, Jan 18, 2020 at 12:21 AM Edie McArthur <rootsancestry57@...> wrote:

Hi Greg,

Do you have a dna match with a Bonnie and a Shirley ona ancestry or do you have rellies of that name.  My former husband has both those ladies and Shirley has a 2cm match with  him.  i hav written to her just now to see where she machess. as she does also match with about four other shared matches.  I think they may be Scottish matches. Definitely one of the shared matches is a descendant of Rob and two of our sons great grandfathers daughter who was conceived in Scotland and she married a fellow William Walker also from Airlie in Scotland.  It is our McArthur  line I am most interested in.  So far no McArthur DNA but several names of different branches of the same lineage as McArthurs  I think McArthur is an inherited name.  Locations Caithness, Sunderland, Lismore.  Our John McArthur was in Cathcart, Renfrewshire, working at the time of his marrige in Cambuslang, Lanarkshire  2 December 1856.  Banns were read in CAthcart.  Trying also to find out which large farms there were in Cathcart at that time..OUr Scottish lines are.

McARTHUR, STEVENSON, ORMISTON. BALFOUR, , , STEVENSON Married into the SPEIRS. Isabella had an illegitimate daughter before her marriage to John McARTHURm Christina Stevenson CAMPBELL, daughter of William CAMPBELL a farmer at Cambuslang. , she married a Robert BLACK at Campsie, Stirlingshire. DOUGAL, LAING, ROBERTSON, BENNIE and WALKER of Stirlingshire, Sct..etc.

regards

Edie McArthur

Tasmania

 

On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 8:22 PM Kenneth Baldwin <kennethb@...> wrote:

Below are the Surnames that I’m researching in Scotland.

 

  • BRODIE - Parish of Boyndie, Banffshire, SCT;
  • CAMERON - Black Isle, SCT;
  • CLARK - Rhynie & Essie, Aberdeenshire SCT;
  • DEAN - Elgin, Elgin, SCT;
  • GRANT - Rhynie, Aberdeen, SCT;
  • INGLIS - Banff/Moray, SCT;
  • LAURANCE - Banff, SCT;
  • LUMSDEN - Banff, SCT>NZ;
  • MacDONALD - Inverness, SCT;
  • MELVIN - Elgin, Elgin, SCT;
  • McINTOSH - Inverness, SCT > Qld, AUS;
  • McINTOSH - Ross Shire, Scotland>Qld, AUS;
  • McKENZIE - Banff/Moray, SCT;
  • McLEAN - Garmouth, Moray, SCT>Qld, AUS;
  • McLEAVY - Jedburgh, Roxburgh, SCT>Qld, AUS;
  • OLIVER - Jedburgh, Roxburgh, SCT>Qld, AUS;
  • RAFFAN - Banff, SCT;
  • ROBERTSON - Ross & Cromarty, SCT;
  • SIMPSON - Banff/Moray, SCT;
  • SMITH – SCT; STUART - Moray, SCT

 

 

Regards

 

Greg Baldwin

Ferntree Gully, Victoria, Australia

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Re: Roll Call

Kenneth Baldwin
 

G’day Edie,

 

Thanks for contacting me.

 

Unfortunately I am unable to help you with the surnames that you are researching.

 

Wishing you luck in your search.

 

Regards

Greg Baldwin

 

From: Scots@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io <Scots@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io> On Behalf Of Edie McArthur via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, 18 January 2020 12:22 AM
To: Scots@scotland-genealogy.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SCT-Gen] Roll Call

 

I meant Shirley Baldwin hs a 21cm match with Rob McArthur.Bonnies is less cm.

Edie

 

On Sat, Jan 18, 2020 at 12:21 AM Edie McArthur <rootsancestry57@...> wrote:

Hi Greg,

Do you have a dna match with a Bonnie and a Shirley ona ancestry or do you have rellies of that name.  My former husband has both those ladies and Shirley has a 2cm match with  him.  i hav written to her just now to see where she machess. as she does also match with about four other shared matches.  I think they may be Scottish matches. Definitely one of the shared matches is a descendant of Rob and two of our sons great grandfathers daughter who was conceived in Scotland and she married a fellow William Walker also from Airlie in Scotland.  It is our McArthur  line I am most interested in.  So far no McArthur DNA but several names of different branches of the same lineage as McArthurs  I think McArthur is an inherited name.  Locations Caithness, Sunderland, Lismore.  Our John McArthur was in Cathcart, Renfrewshire, working at the time of his marrige in Cambuslang, Lanarkshire  2 December 1856.  Banns were read in CAthcart.  Trying also to find out which large farms there were in Cathcart at that time..OUr Scottish lines are.

McARTHUR, STEVENSON, ORMISTON. BALFOUR, , , STEVENSON Married into the SPEIRS. Isabella had an illegitimate daughter before her marriage to John McARTHURm Christina Stevenson CAMPBELL, daughter of William CAMPBELL a farmer at Cambuslang. , she married a Robert BLACK at Campsie, Stirlingshire. DOUGAL, LAING, ROBERTSON, BENNIE and WALKER of Stirlingshire, Sct..etc.

regards

Edie McArthur

Tasmania

 

On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 8:22 PM Kenneth Baldwin <kennethb@...> wrote:

Below are the Surnames that I’m researching in Scotland.

 

  • BRODIE - Parish of Boyndie, Banffshire, SCT;
  • CAMERON - Black Isle, SCT;
  • CLARK - Rhynie & Essie, Aberdeenshire SCT;
  • DEAN - Elgin, Elgin, SCT;
  • GRANT - Rhynie, Aberdeen, SCT;
  • INGLIS - Banff/Moray, SCT;
  • LAURANCE - Banff, SCT;
  • LUMSDEN - Banff, SCT>NZ;
  • MacDONALD - Inverness, SCT;
  • MELVIN - Elgin, Elgin, SCT;
  • McINTOSH - Inverness, SCT > Qld, AUS;
  • McINTOSH - Ross Shire, Scotland>Qld, AUS;
  • McKENZIE - Banff/Moray, SCT;
  • McLEAN - Garmouth, Moray, SCT>Qld, AUS;
  • McLEAVY - Jedburgh, Roxburgh, SCT>Qld, AUS;
  • OLIVER - Jedburgh, Roxburgh, SCT>Qld, AUS;
  • RAFFAN - Banff, SCT;
  • ROBERTSON - Ross & Cromarty, SCT;
  • SIMPSON - Banff/Moray, SCT;
  • SMITH – SCT; STUART - Moray, SCT

 

 

Regards

 

Greg Baldwin

Ferntree Gully, Victoria, Australia

Email: kennethb@...

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James Alexander Dallas GRAY 1866-1899

Rosemary
 

Hi All,

James Alexander Dallas GRAY was my great grandfather and was born in 1866 in Edinburgh. I've always wondered where his middle name of Dallas came from.

None of his siblings have this as part of their name and, as I've worked on the family, I haven't found anyone with that name as a surname. He never gave any of his children that name either. There's just this one occurrence.

Maybe they just liked it - but I'd really like to find a better explanation :-)

Rosemary
Northumberland, UK


Re: Surname Interests

Fay Sefton <ma.sefton@...>
 

Hi,
My family names include
Meikle, Marshall and Dale around the Torphechin area and Martin, Davie, Black, Flint and Fyfe in West Calder and Edinburgh,
Cheers,
Fay


Scottish family names

Scott Thomson
 

My Great-Grandfather John Thomson was born in 1834 in Arbroath, Angus/Forfar, married an Englishwoman and emigrated to the U.S. in 1855. His mother also was a Thomson, Helen, the daughter of William and Mary (Johnston) Thomson. HIs parents were James and Elizabeth (Strachan) Thomson. Before Arbroath, the Thomsons and Strachans were from Marykirk, Kincardineshire. Other family names on this line are Clark, Coupar/Coupar and possibly Nicol and Richardson.
Those are on my father’s side. On Mom’s side, the Campbells, Gillhams and Kirkpatrick came from Scotland via Northern Ireland.


Re: New group question

Jim Tinlin
 

Thanks for adding me to the group, looking forward to more info.


Re: First Post and list of names

Edie Mc
 

HI Yvonne,
Initally  in the Y67marker of two of my three sons and their fathers familytreedna, we had a McMillan amongst the several branches belonging to the McArthur lineage, though no McArthur.  However, since I have done a Y111 for the boys father, We appeared to have dropped the McMillan match. My second son has done the BigY700 (for experts, which we are not), that hasnt helped though. That is most likely because we haven't found any matches to McArthur. We have no wayof knowing how far back our McARthur surname goes.   Was hoping it would have helped. As I stated previously Locations for our DNA families are Caithness, Sunderland and Lismore from the remaining men of the Y111 marker. I think that takes you back about 5 generations. Because we dont know which of the surnames became McArthur or when, at least we have locations of each f the other branch surnames.
regards Edie McArthur



------ Original Message ------
From: "Withington Family" <lwithing@...>
To: Scots@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io
Sent: Friday, 17 Jan, 2020 At 10:40 PM
Subject: Re: [SCT-Gen] First Post and list of names

Hello, I’m also from Hobart.
The Scottish families I am aware of are  Fulton, Bell, Aikman,  Greenfield,Penny, Purvis ,Anderson, and Miller from Berwickshire and Clark,  Sheers, Dewar,Branch,Alison and  Galloway from Fife.
We have DNA matches with several people with Henderson  and McMillan,  but a can’t work out how they connect.
Yvonne
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   

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