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Re: Use of codes

Carolyn Perkes <cperkes@...>
 

For what it's worth, in Canada, "le ROC" means the rest of Canada (outside Quebec).

But in the Chapman code, ROC, in Scotland, is Ross and Cromarty.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chapman_code

***
Carolyn

(live in Quebec (QC), born in Ontario (ON), Canada, with Scottish ancestors in Lanarkshire (LKS), Sutherland (SUT) and Caithness (CAI).

Cheer up, life's about learning. :-)




On 04/02/20 19:15, Ray Rob <rayrobt@...> wrote:
Yes , to me  ROC  means  Republic of China !

On Wed, Feb 5, 2020 at 12:46 PM Lauraine Syrnick <lauraine.syrnick@...> wrote:
Definitely agree with Lindsay.  Such codes are not good for all of us.  Yes, maybe we should use them, but have no idea what’s ROC means.  Will have to look it up which is a real pain.
Lauraine (Smith) Syrnick - Canada




Re: Use of codes

Allan Moore
 

Having been in the Airline industry for 43 years I find it easy and intuitive. That being said, while I know the codes I use on a daily basis and the main global major airport codes, I have little knowledge of the codes out of my “circle of influence”.

On Feb 5, 2020, at 15:56, Anne Burgess via Groups.Io <anne.genlists=btinternet.com@groups.io> wrote:

I absolutely disagree. You soon learn the ones you use regularly. I almost never need to look up a UK code. And it's a lot less pain to look up an occasional code than to type out 'Ross and Cromarty' (17 keystrokes) or 'Montgomeryshire' (16) instead of 'ROC' or 'MGY' (just 3 each). That's why they were invented - to save typing.

Anne



Seeking information about "the Deanery", Leith or Edinburgh, 1890s

Susan Kiley
 

I’ve had no luck searching online. My paternal grandfather Thomas Wright was born in Leith in 1884, His father, a dock worker, died in 1888 leaving ten children, including my then-three years old grandfather. My grandfather said that his mother placed all her boys at “The Deanery” and that his mother and all the girls went into service. In 1907, at the age of 22, Thomas emigrated to Canada.
I’m not sure if the story is true, especially given that I’ve found Thomas living with family members at the time of both the 1891 and the 1901 censuses, but I’m hoping to learn if there actually was a “Deanery” that might have housed destitute children in the late 1800s, Bonus points given if anyone knows if records of children housed there still exist!
Thank you, Susan Wright Kiley from USA


Re: Use of codes

Dee Byster-Graham
 

Dear fellow-listers,

 

Oh my goodness! All this talk of codes!

Just to be clear, I, for one, will never bother to use them, however ,people who wish to do so, may.

They serve no purpose, as far as I can see, except to add a layer of difficulty for new researchers, folks who have never heard of them, and for those delightful, shy folks who need to ask questions but don’t know how to easily.

Researching one’s family tree can be extremely difficult for anyone, especially when first beginning – I vividly recall my own tentative questions, and trying not to appear too silly in their wording.

Let us retain  a welcoming, helpful attitude, and not make difficulties where none need be for our new seekers.

 

Kindly,

Dee.

Searching: MITCHELL: MATHER: MORE: COB: BANNISTER:BULLOCH, and related families.

 

 

 

From: Scots@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io [mailto:Scots@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lindsay Graham
Sent: Thursday, 6 February 2020 4:27 PM
To: Scots@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ScotGen] Use of codes

 

With what are you disagreeing, Anne?  The issue is not whether individuals wish to make use of Chapman codes in their own research (as you and many others do, but many do not) but whether Chapman codes should be compulsory in the headings of emails to this list.  If they are, that forces every reader to become familiar with Chapman codes, an impossible and quite inappropriate requirement.  It would also mean that some emails quoting Chapman codes would simply be ignored by some readers who are not familiar with them.  That would be a great pity.

Realistically, how much extra time does it take one to spell the word out in a single email heading rather than using a 3-letter code that many readers will not recognise?

Lindsay Graham
Canberra, Australia

(snip)

 
 
 
 

 


Re: Use of codes

Lindsay Graham
 

With what are you disagreeing, Anne?  The issue is not whether individuals wish to make use of Chapman codes in their own research (as you and many others do, but many do not) but whether Chapman codes should be compulsory in the headings of emails to this list.  If they are, that forces every reader to become familiar with Chapman codes, an impossible and quite inappropriate requirement.  It would also mean that some emails quoting Chapman codes would simply be ignored by some readers who are not familiar with them.  That would be a great pity.

Realistically, how much extra time does it take one to spell the word out in a single email heading rather than using a 3-letter code that many readers will not recognise?

Lindsay Graham
Canberra, Australia


On 6/2/20 0956, Anne Burgess via Groups.Io wrote:
I absolutely disagree. You soon learn the ones you use regularly. I almost never need to look up a UK code. And it's a lot less pain to look up an occasional code than to type out 'Ross and Cromarty' (17 keystrokes) or 'Montgomeryshire' (16) instead of 'ROC' or 'MGY' (just 3 each).  That's why they were invented - to save typing.

Anne






Re: Codes #196

Janet Miller
 

As I thought Lauraine.
I wish I had learnt to touch type in my younger days,I am very much pick and mix , but reasonably quick all the same . You are doing well and it must be good for the brain as well. Like a lister said another piece of paper on the desk is  not ideal.They say it is never too late to learn, but my ship has sailed on learning anything but basics now.
Happy hunting from New Zealand
Janet


Re: Falkirk Burns House

W David Samuelsen
 

Are you referring to Ellisland Farm site? Other houses are still standing (birthplace) and Dumfries.

David Samuelsen

On Wed, Feb 5, 2020 at 12:34 PM Karina McHugh <karinamchugh@...> wrote:
Anybody have any information about Burns House. It doesn't exist anymore, but was demolished to make way for a canal or something. I can't find anything about it. Hoping someone out there does.

Karina




Re: Use of codes

Ian & Margaret Kelly
 

I think that WikiTree and Lauraine have the right idea. Why not take an extra few seconds and type the full word instead of using the codes. Not everyone lives in Scotland.

Ian, Qld. (oops, better make that Queensland)

-----Original Message-----
From: Scots@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io <Scots@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io> On Behalf Of Lauraine Syrnick
Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2020 12:47 PM
To: Scots@scotland-genealogy.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ScotGen] Use of codes

Yes, realized they were abbreviation
and I use SHI sometimes. However, also belong to WIkiTree and you have to write the full contents of places so people from all over the world can readily understand0 what place you are talking about. For those living in Scotland, these may be a benefit but for the many people living in South Africa, Australia, New Zealand, Canada and the United States do not see this as being viable. I have so much paper on my desk, another piece will not help and would never find it. Must try and find out which abbreviation is for Angus or Forforeshire.
Lauraine Syrnick
On Feb 5, 2020, at 8:06 PM, Jocelyn Gould <jocelyngould@qldnet.com.au> wrote:

Hello Lauraine - thanks for your comment. To answer your question - ROC is the code for Ross and Cromarty, as I stated in my initial suggestion, just to use an example. Some more examples - INV = Inverness, BAN = Banff, MOR = Moray etc. They're fairly self explanatory really. By the way, they are available in many other locations and a printed page comes in handy.

How about if those who are used to using them, continue to do so and those not familiar, not use them, then the reader can decide whether to read the post or not.

Jocelyn

On 5/02/2020 7:27 pm, Edie McArthur wrote:
HI,
I actually found the list of codes to be handy. I printed them all out and used one this morning when I posted about the whereabouts of any old Cathcart Farmsc1850's in Renfrewshire. RFW. It shorted the subject heading for me. To each his own I guess.

Edie McArthur

------ Original Message ------
From: "Lauraine Syrnick" <lauraine.syrnick@gmail.com>
To: Scots@scotland-genealogy.groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, 4 Feb, 2020 At 6:40 PM
Subject: [ScotGen] Use of codes

Definitely agree with Lindsay. Such codes are not good for all of us. Yes, maybe we should use them, but have no idea what’s ROC means. Will have to look it up which is a real pain.
Lauraine (Smith) Syrnick - Canada









Re: Codes

Lauraine Syrnick
 

Janet, I am a touch typist and it would take me several minutes to look up codes if not longer. At one time did 80 words per minute. Am now 82 so not fast any more but can still touch type so much faster than looking an abbreviation up.
Lauraine - Canada

On Feb 5, 2020, 8:40 PM, Janet Miller <janetmiller@slingshot.co.nz> wrote:

Hi
I do not use codes and struggle some times to think what they are and could have written them many times by the time I look them up and get them correct . Handy if one has a small data base , but my Scots relatives all 40,000 come from all over and I would rather remember them than fill my head with codes. Like anything of course one can get used to it if one has to, but they are surely not the best in a data base where descendants who are not genealogists will be looking or when a print out is sent. The uninitiated will struggle no end and of course a touch typist will not bother and an unrecognised code will just be a humbug.
What fun this genealogy is.
Cheers
Janet



Re: Use of codes

Lauraine Syrnick
 

Yes, realized they were abbreviation
and I use SHI sometimes. However, also belong to WIkiTree and you have to write the full contents of places so people from all over the world can readily understand0 what place you are talking about. For those living in Scotland, these may be a
benefit but for the many people living in South Africa, Australia, New Zealand, Canada and the United States do not see this as being viable. I have so much paper on my desk, another piece will not help and would never find it. Must try and find out which abbreviation is for Angus or Forforeshire.
Lauraine Syrnick

On Feb 5, 2020, at 8:06 PM, Jocelyn Gould <jocelyngould@qldnet.com.au> wrote:

Hello Lauraine - thanks for your comment. To answer your question - ROC is the code for Ross and Cromarty, as I stated in my initial suggestion, just to use an example. Some more examples - INV = Inverness, BAN = Banff, MOR = Moray etc. They're fairly self explanatory really. By the way, they are available in many other locations and a printed page comes in handy.

How about if those who are used to using them, continue to do so and those not familiar, not use them, then the reader can decide whether to read the post or not.

Jocelyn

On 5/02/2020 7:27 pm, Edie McArthur wrote:
HI,
I actually found the list of codes to be handy. I printed them all out and used one this morning when I posted about the whereabouts of any old Cathcart Farmsc1850's in Renfrewshire. RFW. It shorted the subject heading for me. To each his own I guess.

Edie McArthur

------ Original Message ------
From: "Lauraine Syrnick" <lauraine.syrnick@gmail.com>
To: Scots@scotland-genealogy.groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, 4 Feb, 2020 At 6:40 PM
Subject: [ScotGen] Use of codes

Definitely agree with Lindsay. Such codes are not good for all of us. Yes, maybe we should use them, but have no idea what’s ROC means. Will have to look it up which is a real pain.
Lauraine (Smith) Syrnick - Canada









Codes

Janet Miller
 

Hi
I do not use codes and struggle some times to think what they are and could have written them many times by the time I look  them up and get them correct . Handy if one has a small data base , but my Scots relatives all 40,000 come from all over and I would rather remember them than fill my head with codes. Like anything of course one can get used to it if one has to, but they are surely not the best in a data base where descendants who are not genealogists will be looking or when a print out is sent. The uninitiated will struggle  no end  and of course a touch typist will not bother and an unrecognised code will just be a humbug.
What fun this genealogy is.
Cheers
Janet


Re: Use of codes

Jocelyn Gould
 

Hello Lauraine - thanks for your comment. To answer your question - ROC is the code for Ross and Cromarty, as I stated in my initial suggestion, just to use an example.  Some more examples - INV = Inverness, BAN = Banff, MOR = Moray etc.  They're fairly self explanatory really.  By the way, they are available in many other locations and a printed page comes in handy.

How about if those who are used to using them, continue to do so and those not familiar, not use them, then the reader can decide whether to read the post or not.

Jocelyn

On 5/02/2020 7:27 pm, Edie McArthur wrote:
HI,
I actually found the list of codes to be handy.  I printed them all out and used one this morning  when I posted about the whereabouts of any old Cathcart Farmsc1850's in Renfrewshire. RFW.  It shorted the subject heading for me.  To each his own I guess.

Edie McArthur

------ Original Message ------
From: "Lauraine Syrnick" <lauraine.syrnick@gmail.com>
To: Scots@scotland-genealogy.groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, 4 Feb, 2020 At 6:40 PM
Subject: [ScotGen] Use of codes

Definitely agree with Lindsay.  Such codes are not good for all of us. Yes, maybe we should use them, but have no idea what’s ROC means.  Will have to look it up which is a real pain.
Lauraine (Smith) Syrnick - Canada








Re: Use of codes

Anne Burgess
 

I absolutely disagree. You soon learn the ones you use regularly. I almost never need to look up a UK code. And it's a lot less pain to look up an occasional code than to type out 'Ross and Cromarty' (17 keystrokes) or 'Montgomeryshire' (16) instead of 'ROC' or 'MGY' (just 3 each). That's why they were invented - to save typing.

Anne


Re: Need names of some old Farms c1857 in Cathcart, Renfrewshire RFW, Sct

Edie Mc
 

Thank you E Bateson, another good map.  I hope others are benefiting from these Maps as well.
Thanks again
Edie Mc



------ Original Message ------
From: "E J Bateson via Groups.Io" <hunchibanks@...>
To: Scots@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, 6 Feb, 2020 At 4:46 AM
Subject: Re: [ScotGen] Need names of some old Farms c1857 in Cathcart, Renfrewshire RFW, Sct

 try this, its  the old ordinance survey maps of scotland  in 1800s    https://maps.nls.uk/view/74427699 

On 5 Feb 2020, at 15:55, leshorn44@... wrote:

Have a look at the NLS (National Library of Scotland) maps web-site.
This URL will take you to Cathcart.
https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=17&lat=55.8187&lon=-4.2618&layers=5&b=1    

   

--
EdieMc


Re: Need names of some old Farms c1857 in Cathcart, Renfrewshire RFW, Sct

Edie Mc
 

HI Leshorn, Thank you very much for bringing up the Cathcart Map for me from the National Library of Scotland. That is a great map as it shows clearly all of the surrounding towns Villages and possibly Farms.  I just need to find the John Cuningham who came same ship as our John and his wife  to see the town he was living in at Cathcart as tha could be a start in our seach in that area.
'Thans again for your help
Edie Mc



------ Original Message ------
From: leshorn44@...
To: Scots@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, 6 Feb, 2020 At 2:55 AM
Subject: Re: [ScotGen] Need names of some old Farms c1857 in Cathcart, Renfrewshire RFW, Sct

Have a look at the NLS (National Library of Scotland) maps web-site.
This URL will take you to Cathcart.
https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=17&lat=55.8187&lon=-4.2618&layers=5&b=1    

--
EdieMc


Re: Need names of some old Farms c1857 in Cathcart, Renfrewshire RFW, Sct

Edie Mc
 

Hi Fiona,
Thank you for your help.  I am familiar with Genuki, it is a wonderful site to use.  However you do have to use other sites as it doesn't cover everything ones needs.  The National Map site, I have'nt seen, so that is going to be very useful.  Now I need to know where to  locate the Ordnance Name Books as I am sure they will be useful to others as well, especially if like me they live overseas in Australia.

I have seen a good bit of Scotland during and after a working holiday in 1990 in the UK, when we were living at Gateshead, Tyne N Wear and you could go in and out  of Scotland on weekends and long weekends. Then we did a more thorough look through Scotland using Youth Hostels.  Been to the Isle o Skye an the main cities, not sure about Oban,  I will have to look at my photos from that trip.  We had  been to Scotland briefly in 1989 to visit Fort George at Ardersier, Inverness where my grandfather Joseph Henry LANE was born 1975 whilst my great grandfather  Joseph Crane  LANE was stationed with the First Royal Scots. Also my GF half sister Martha LANE (born  Colchester, Essex, England to  Joseph Crane LANE first wife Emma HOLMES, who died in Colchester), was living there also and she had married a Thomas MacNeil, son of Margaret Porteous and William MacNeil.

My son and I are quite frustrated Fiona.  We have everything we need the Tasmanian end and we have had  two of our  three sons and our only daughter, plus their fathers DNA using three companies, FTDNA, MyHeritage and ancestry.com.  It is just the birth date and place of our John McArthur c1828, could be either side of that.  We have a census record in 1841 of a Duncan McArthur with a wife Janet , they have children Duncan, Peter Robert, John and daughter Janet, but I have checked the birth of that John out on Scotlands people and he is the lawful son of Duncan and Janet McArthur.  What does Lawful usually mean as I dont  always see that, but our John has Margaret Smith as his mother on his and Isabella Stevensons marriage certificate.

I was thinking that maybe he belonged to the Militia as he was a farm servant and could maybe of been called up.  I have checked on fold3 for him but cant see anything that stands out.

Thank you again for your help.
Edie Mc
Australia



------ Original Message ------
From: "Fiona Turnbull" <fionaturnbull@...>
To: "Scots@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io" <Scots@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, 6 Feb, 2020 At 1:39 AM
Subject: Re: [ScotGen] Need names of some old Farms c1857 in Cathcart, Renfrewshire RFW, Sct

Edie
Have you looked at the links here https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/sct/RFW/Cathcart - also check out the maps at the National Library of Scotland as many of the older maps have farms  on them https://maps.nls.uk/
Access high-resolution zoomable images of over 200,000 maps of Scotland, England, Wales and beyond
maps.nls.uk

"CATHCART, parish, chiefly in Renfrewshire, but partly in Lanarkshire, and including parts of the southern suburbs of Glasgow. It has a post office of its own name, under Glasgow, and contains the Queen's Park, the town of Crosshill, the villages of New Cathcart,  Old Cathcart, Crossmyloof, Langside, Camphill, Prospect Hill, Florida, Clarkston Toll, Hangingshaw, Millbridge, Netherlee, and part ...
www.genuki.org.uk
If I can help in some way let me know as I am based in Oban, Scotland

Fiona Turnbull

From: Scots@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io <Scots@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io> on behalf of Edie McArthur <eamca1944@...>
Sent: 05 February 2020 10:21
To: Scots@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io <Scots@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ScotGen] Need names of some old Farms c1857 in Cathcart, Renfrewshire RFW, Sct
 
Thankyou Josephine.  I have three trees up for McArthur.  the main one is McARTHUR/STEVENSON etc Laing/WEBBER etc Family Tree they had 9 children all born in the Upper Nile area, near Evandale.  Isabella 1858 (conceived in Scotland), Margaret, Mary, John,  George, William (iur Line, Peter Duncan and Robert Russell McARTHUR.  the family arrived in Tasmania 31 March, 1857 on the Broomielaw. I have never found a photo of the ship and have always comeup withe the  Dock Brooielaw when goggling.  Beed to Quebec where  she was built as well to see if they had any photos of her.  I saw the log book she was mentioned in but no photo.

I have done a bit of seach n the whereabouts of Cathcrt but havent found any farms as wyet. I did finda young fellow John  CUNNINGHAM aged 21 and single on the Broomie law lso from Cathcart and thought he may of been working with our Joh and put a post  over AUS-TAsmania.rootsweb but to no avail. There was no reply for any cunnigham families who had this John in their family tree.  I though there was a town or farm name in front of Cathcart for his entry, but cannot seem to find where I saw it now. It would  be a starting point for me to find the little village  or farm near Cathcart where John was working I knw Cathcart is only about  2miles by 4 miles.

Another thing is I was in touch with a lady who lives overseas whose family came fromBarrhead very close to Cambuslang. Her family came out to Sydney and were into the Shipping business.  she did give me her families and there were a few Thomas which we  do not have in our family.andshe isnt planing to having any DNA tested I think only her father and a little baby are the males and the father is in a nursing home, so close but so far.

Thanks for all of the help given so far.
regards
Edie McArthur



------ Original Message ------
From: "Josephine Conray" <javc@...>
To: Scots@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, 5 Feb, 2020 At 2:27 PM
Subject: Re: [ScotGen] Need names of some old Farms c1857 in Cathcart, Renfrewshire RFW, Sct

 
 

Hi

 

 

 

Just Google and found this site. https://www.visionofbritain.org.uk/place/16932  Also there are about 53 Family Tree on Ancestry for John  & Isabella, and both of them died in Parersonia, Tasmania, Australia and had 14 childrem

 

 

 

Cheers

 

Josephine

 

Qld Aust

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 
 

From: Scots@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io [mailto:Scots@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io] On Behalf Of Edie McArthur
Sent: Wednesday, 5 February 2020 7:12 AM
To: Scots@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io
Subject: [ScotGen] Need names of some old Farms c1857 in Cathcart, Renfrewshire RFW, Sct

 
 

 

 

Hi,
Does anyone have a list or at least one  farm in Cathart, Renfrewshire area please. It ould  needed to be going back at least 1956.  I want to search in that area for our John McArthur born 1828 someplace in Scotland , but was living and working as a Farm Servant  at Cathcart prior to his and Isabella Stevensons marriage that took place at Cambuslang, Lanarkshire 2 December 1856.  Their banns were read at Cathcart.  I would like to do a bit of research i that area.  Also a good reseachers name would be useful as well  for that area please, in case I dont have any luck myself.

Thank you in advance for any help.
--
eamca57

 
 

 
 
       

--
eamca57  
     

--
EdieMc


Falkirk Burns House

Karina McHugh
 

Anybody have any information about Burns House. It doesn't exist anymore, but was demolished to make way for a canal or something. I can't find anything about it. Hoping someone out there does.

Karina


Re: Need names of some old Farms c1857 in Cathcart, Renfrewshire RFW, Sct

E J Bateson
 

 try this, its  the old ordinance survey maps of scotland  in 1800s    https://maps.nls.uk/view/74427699 

On 5 Feb 2020, at 15:55, leshorn44@... wrote:

Have a look at the NLS (National Library of Scotland) maps web-site.
This URL will take you to Cathcart.
https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=17&lat=55.8187&lon=-4.2618&layers=5&b=1


Re: Need names of some old Farms c1857 in Cathcart, Renfrewshire RFW, Sct

Les Horn
 

Have a look at the NLS (National Library of Scotland) maps web-site.
This URL will take you to Cathcart.
https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=17&lat=55.8187&lon=-4.2618&layers=5&b=1


Re: Need names of some old Farms c1857 in Cathcart, Renfrewshire RFW, Sct

Fiona Turnbull
 

Edie
Have you looked at the links here https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/sct/RFW/Cathcart - also check out the maps at the National Library of Scotland as many of the older maps have farms on them https://maps.nls.uk/
Access high-resolution zoomable images of over 200,000 maps of Scotland, England, Wales and beyond
maps.nls.uk

"CATHCART, parish, chiefly in Renfrewshire, but partly in Lanarkshire, and including parts of the southern suburbs of Glasgow. It has a post office of its own name, under Glasgow, and contains the Queen's Park, the town of Crosshill, the villages of New Cathcart, Old Cathcart, Crossmyloof, Langside, Camphill, Prospect Hill, Florida, Clarkston Toll, Hangingshaw, Millbridge, Netherlee, and part ...
www.genuki.org.uk
If I can help in some way let me know as I am based in Oban, Scotland

Fiona Turnbull


From: Scots@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io <Scots@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io> on behalf of Edie McArthur <eamca1944@...>
Sent: 05 February 2020 10:21
To: Scots@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io <Scots@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ScotGen] Need names of some old Farms c1857 in Cathcart, Renfrewshire RFW, Sct
 
Thankyou Josephine.  I have three trees up for McArthur.  the main one is McARTHUR/STEVENSON etc Laing/WEBBER etc Family Tree they had 9 children all born in the Upper Nile area, near Evandale.  Isabella 1858 (conceived in Scotland), Margaret, Mary, John, George, William (iur Line, Peter Duncan and Robert Russell McARTHUR.  the family arrived in Tasmania 31 March, 1857 on the Broomielaw. I have never found a photo of the ship and have always comeup withe the  Dock Brooielaw when goggling.  Beed to Quebec where she was built as well to see if they had any photos of her.  I saw the log book she was mentioned in but no photo.

I have done a bit of seach n the whereabouts of Cathcrt but havent found any farms as wyet. I did finda young fellow John  CUNNINGHAM aged 21 and single on the Broomie law lso from Cathcart and thought he may of been working with our Joh and put a post over AUS-TAsmania.rootsweb but to no avail. There was no reply for any cunnigham families who had this John in their family tree.  I though there was a town or farm name in front of Cathcart for his entry, but cannot seem to find where I saw it now. It would be a starting point for me to find the little village  or farm near Cathcart where John was working I knw Cathcart is only about  2miles by 4 miles.

Another thing is I was in touch with a lady who lives overseas whose family came fromBarrhead very close to Cambuslang. Her family came out to Sydney and were into the Shipping business.  she did give me her families and there were a few Thomas which we do not have in our family.andshe isnt planing to having any DNA tested I think only her father and a little baby are the males and the father is in a nursing home, so close but so far.

Thanks for all of the help given so far.
regards
Edie McArthur



------ Original Message ------
From: "Josephine Conray" <javc@...>
To: Scots@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, 5 Feb, 2020 At 2:27 PM
Subject: Re: [ScotGen] Need names of some old Farms c1857 in Cathcart, Renfrewshire RFW, Sct

 
 

Hi

 

 

 

Just Google and found this site. https://www.visionofbritain.org.uk/place/16932  Also there are about 53 Family Tree on Ancestry for John & Isabella, and both of them died in Parersonia, Tasmania, Australia and had 14 childrem

 

 

 

Cheers

 

Josephine

 

Qld Aust

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 
 

From: Scots@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io [mailto:Scots@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io] On Behalf Of Edie McArthur
Sent: Wednesday, 5 February 2020 7:12 AM
To: Scots@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io
Subject: [ScotGen] Need names of some old Farms c1857 in Cathcart, Renfrewshire RFW, Sct

 
 

 

 

Hi,
Does anyone have a list or at least one  farm in Cathart, Renfrewshire area please. It ould  needed to be going back at least 1956.  I want to search in that area for our John McArthur born 1828 someplace in Scotland , but was living and working as a Farm Servant at Cathcart prior to his and Isabella Stevensons marriage that took place at Cambuslang, Lanarkshire 2 December 1856.  Their banns were read at Cathcart.  I would like to do a bit of research i that area.  Also a good reseachers name would be useful as well for that area please, in case I dont have any luck myself.

Thank you in advance for any help.
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