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Flora Keith

Merle Duncan
 

I have reached a brick wall with my ancestor Flora Keith. I have a baptismal record for Janet McFadgen Apr 18 1805 stating her father's name as John McFadean and place of birth as Knock. A previous inquiry to this list got the following info: Knock is cnoc Raonistil and her probable mother is Flora Keith. This info was provided by Roger McWee several years ago. My search since for Flora Keith has not proved fruitful. Can anyone send me in the right direction?


Re: Ballantrae, Ontario

Sue Visser
 

Hi Russ
I can scan it or send it to you.  It was used as a bookmark in an old book I’d bought.  I don’t have family in that area so would rather it goes to someone who’d appreciate it.
Sue
 

From: Russ McGillivray
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2020 12:48 PM
To: Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Islay] Ballantrae, Ontario
 

Sue,

I have lots of relatives that lived in Ballantrae, but not from the Islay side of my tree.

Could you scan the postcard?

 

Russ

 

From: Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io [mailto:Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sue Visser
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2020 12:34 PM
To: GEN LIST - ISLAY
Subject: [Islay] Ballantrae, Ontario

 

Did anyone have Islay ancestors who settled in Ballantrae, Ontario?  I have an old postcard for the first person to reply.

 

Cheers,

Sue Visser

 


Re: PAF software

Russ McGillivray
 

Ken,

I upgraded from PAF to Legacy years ago and would recommend it.

There is a free version of Legacy that has almost all of the functionality of the Deluxe version.

The Deluxe only costs about $25 so is not going to break the bank if you decide later you want to buy it.

Legacy has an import specifically for a gedcom coming from PAF.

I suggest you try uploading a gedcom to the free version and see how you like it.

It won’t be perfect – if you want I can look at the notes I made to see what manual cleanup I had to do.

 

Russ

 

From: Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io [mailto:Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ken Harrison
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2020 6:49 PM
To: Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Islay] PAF software

 

Thank you to all those who wrote to confirm that PAF works fine in Win10

 

Ken Harrison

North Vancouver, Canada

 


Re: Ballantrae, Ontario

Russ McGillivray
 

Sue,

I have lots of relatives that lived in Ballantrae, but not from the Islay side of my tree.

Could you scan the postcard?

 

Russ

 

From: Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io [mailto:Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sue Visser
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2020 12:34 PM
To: GEN LIST - ISLAY
Subject: [Islay] Ballantrae, Ontario

 

Did anyone have Islay ancestors who settled in Ballantrae, Ontario?  I have an old postcard for the first person to reply.

 

Cheers,

Sue Visser

 


Apsley, Ontario

Sue Visser
 

Did anyone have Islay ancestors who settled in Apsley, Ontario.  The first to reply can have an old postcard.
 
Cheers,
Sue


Ballantrae, Ontario

Sue Visser
 

Did anyone have Islay ancestors who settled in Ballantrae, Ontario?  I have an old postcard for the first person to reply.
 
Cheers,
Sue Visser
 


McAulay Kilchoman and variations

Paul MacAuley
 

McAulay
I agree that it would be helpful if the names of those one is researching is more prominent in the roll call reply so I am doing mine again.
Paul


Re: PAF software

 

On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 1:44 PM Ken Harrison <kenharrison43@...> wrote:

I’d appreciate some advice from others who have gone before me on this.  I have resisted upgrading from Win7 out of fear that some (all?) of my old software would not work under Win10.

I’m being forced to make the move now, and wonder about PAF5.


Please export a GEDCOM before you upgrade! It will not get some of your data out, but it will get the basics. And any genealogy program and most websites will accept the upload of a Gedcom. Name it: Project.ged and if there are multiple versions of gedcoms you can export, do them all. You never know!

Valorie

I know that it is no longer available, and is not supported, and has not been replaced with anything else, so …

 

Have any of you found that it will/won’t operate under Win10?

If not, what is the best alternative, given that I will need to import all my data on over 29,000 persons?  I know in the past that some of the popular knock-offs did not support all the fields in PAF (birth and Bap, death & burial, etc).

 

Any general advice?  I’m sure several others are in a similar situation …

 

Ken Harrison

North Vancouver, Canada


Re: Roll Call - McAulay/McCalman

Allan Moore
 

Thanks for this Mike

Just FYI, Dow is an alternative to McCalman. 

If you come across any Kennedy connections in your search, please let me know?

Regards
Allan

On Jan 28, 2020, at 17:28, mearnsmg@... via Groups.Io <mearnsmg@...> wrote:


Hi Harry, Allan,


I have been "researching" my GGrandmother Jane McAulay, born Portnahaven 1828. I have come across a couple of links with the McCalmans. A Mary McAulay married a Hugh McCalman on 27/12/1838, Mary died on 23/8/1893 her death registered by a niece Mary Dow??. I believe Hugh died before the 1851 Census.


Also, a Donald McCalman married a Mary McAulay, there were, at least 2 children Charles (b 5/8/1872) and Duncan (b 22/1/1874) both born at Carnain, Kilarrow. Both their birth records state that Donald & Mary married on 3/10/1871 in Greenock (I assume Renfrewshire), but I have not found a marriage record to get their respective parents.


Regards

Mike Mearns, Kent England






------ Original Message ------
From: "Allan Moore" <agmoore21@...>
To: Islay@scotland-genealogy.groups.io
Sent: Sunday, 26 Jan, 2020 At 18:05
Subject: Re: [Islay] Roll Call

Hi Harry

I have the same interests as you, as my paternal G—Grandparent was a McCalman. There seems to be a lot of confusion when I go back as there is confusion in that line between McAulay and Kennedy!

I will do a little information straightening out so I can put the problem on paper to forward it to you.
My DNA test revealed that my closest relative is a Kennedy and I have no written record of the link.

Thanks
Allan

On Jan 26, 2020, at 09:17, harry mccalman <mccdallas@...> wrote:



Hi All My interests are McCalman, MacAuley, Dow all of Loch Gruinart Area
Regards HJD McCalman


Re: Roll Call - McAulay/McCalman

mearnsmg@btinternet.com
 

Hi Harry, Allan,


I have been "researching" my GGrandmother Jane McAulay, born Portnahaven 1828. I have come across a couple of links with the McCalmans. A Mary McAulay married a Hugh McCalman on 27/12/1838, Mary died on 23/8/1893 her death registered by a niece Mary Dow??. I believe Hugh died before the 1851 Census.


Also, a Donald McCalman married a Mary McAulay, there were, at least 2 children Charles (b 5/8/1872) and Duncan (b 22/1/1874) both born at Carnain, Kilarrow. Both their birth records state that Donald & Mary married on 3/10/1871 in Greenock (I assume Renfrewshire), but I have not found a marriage record to get their respective parents.


Regards

Mike Mearns, Kent England






------ Original Message ------
From: "Allan Moore" <agmoore21@...>
To: Islay@scotland-genealogy.groups.io
Sent: Sunday, 26 Jan, 2020 At 18:05
Subject: Re: [Islay] Roll Call

Hi Harry

I have the same interests as you, as my paternal G—Grandparent was a McCalman. There seems to be a lot of confusion when I go back as there is confusion in that line between McAulay and Kennedy!

I will do a little information straightening out so I can put the problem on paper to forward it to you.
My DNA test revealed that my closest relative is a Kennedy and I have no written record of the link.

Thanks
Allan

On Jan 26, 2020, at 09:17, harry mccalman <mccdallas@...> wrote:



Hi All My interests are McCalman, MacAuley, Dow all of Loch Gruinart Area
Regards HJD McCalman


Re: PAF software

Ken Harrison
 

Thank you to all those who wrote to confirm that PAF works fine in Win10

 

Ken Harrison

North Vancouver, Canada

 


Islay-Currie/McNevin

Dianne Taeckens
 

It looks like I am getting near the last to answer to the Roll Call email.  My family name connection to Islay include Currie, McNevin (which I know is spelled multiple ways), McArthur, McDermid, McIntyre, McAulay.  I have had the pleasure of visiting Islay but, unfortunately, only found possible relatives in the cemeteries.  I live in Michigan and am a descendant of the same families as another member of this group, Lynn Seamark.

 

 

Neil Currie (1811-1875) m. Christina McNevin – they are my 2x great grandparents.  They were from Kilchoman.  I was fortunate to visit the remans of the church where they were married on Islay.  They left Islay for Erin Twp, Ontario, with their three children (Gilbert, Jane & John) as well as Neil’s brother Peter Currie and his wife Jane McNevin (sister of Christina) and their five children.   Later Christina came to Michigan with her son Peter Currie (my great grandfather) and his family.

 

Neil Currie’s parents were Gilbert Currie (1769-1828) and Margaret McArthur (1773-1861).  Margaret’s parents are James McArthur & Catherine McDermid.  Gilbert’s parents are unknown. 

 

Christina McNevin’s parents are Archibald McNevin (1786-1851) and Jane Vise McIntyre (1782-1864).  Archibald’s father was Alexander McNevin (1750-?).  Jane’s parents were John McIntyre (1761-?) and Susan McAulay (1761-?). 

 

 

 

 

Dianne

 

Dianne Taeckens

 

 


Re: PAF software

Alasdair Mcdougall
 

Ken, yes PAF 5 will work on Windows 10
Alasdair McDougall


-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Harrison <kenharrison43@...>
To: Yorksgen <Yorksgen@groups.io>; lanark <lanark@...>; Islay <Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io>
Sent: Tue, 28 Jan 2020 21:44
Subject: Re: [Islay] PAF software

I’d appreciate some advice from others who have gone before me on this.  I have resisted upgrading from Win7 out of fear that some (all?) of my old software would not work under Win10.
I’m being forced to make the move now, and wonder about PAF5.
I know that it is no longer available, and is not supported, and has not been replaced with anything else, so …
 
Have any of you found that it will/won’t operate under Win10?
If not, what is the best alternative, given that I will need to import all my data on over 29,000 persons?  I know in the past that some of the popular knock-offs did not support all the fields in PAF (birth and Bap, death & burial, etc).
 
Any general advice?  I’m sure several others are in a similar situation …
 
Ken Harrison
North Vancouver, Canada
 


Re: Islay - McArthur/McGillivray

Lynn Seamark
 

Just food for thought on your McArthur family. You are probably aware that the Kilchoman records before 1823 (I think) were destroyed by fire. Sure makes it hard to build a tree when there are no records to work with.

 

 

Purely hypothetical guessing game using some known data and related to my family. My Margaret McArthur b. 1773 Kilchoman was married to Gilbert Currie. Margaret’s parents per her death record are James McArthur and Catherine McDermid - Probably born circa 1740’s. Potential parents of Duncan.

Margaret was born about the generation of Duncan McArthur as James was born 1805. One of Margaret’s sons is named Duncan. Naming conventions would say that if Duncan had a son – a likely name would be James - for this father. Of course we don’t know Duncan’s other children…but… below are the birth records in Kilchoman for other McArthur’s in the sameish (is that a word?) generation as James. James’s mother being Mary Currie – there should be a daughter Mary (in a perfect world) and a son Duncan. These would help give you leads to siblings of James. If you follow potential siblings, find their death records – you might find confirmation. It’s just a thought. It worked for me – finding some of Gilbert Currie and Margaret McArthur’s children – and my DNA matches are starting to add icing to the cake.

 

Sorry for the jumble of records – I should have made an excel spreadsheet to manipulate. Father is named first, then mother, then child’s name and date of baptism, date of birth and parish. 

Other than births of James and Annabella’s children Remember – these are just leads for possible siblings of James. Which might lead to Duncan and Mary. I did not look at the census records for additional information. And of course, people move around and not all children are baptized, etc. etc.

 

Birth Records

 

McArthur

James

McGillivray

Annabella

 

Mary

3

Feb

1828

13

Jan

1828

Kilchoman

McArthur

James

Mcgilvray

Annabella

IslHouse

Mary

 

 

b

14

Mar

1840

Kilarrow

McArthur

James

McGilvray

Annabella

 

Margaret

10

Apr

1831

12

Mar

1830

Kilchoman

McArthur

James

McGilvray

Annabella

 

Isabella

3

Mar

1833

22

Jun

1832

Kilchoman

McArthur

James

McGilvray

Annabella

 

John

26

Apr

1835

10

Mar

1835

Kilchoman

McArthur

James

McGilvray

Annabella

 

Ann

4

Feb

1838

7

Oct

1837

Kilchoman

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

McArthur

Duncan

Campbell

Isabella

 

Duncan

10

May

1824

2

May

1824

Kilchoman

Bell

Neil

McArthur

Elizabeth

 

Duncan

17

Nov

1821

 

 

 

Kilchoman

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Galbraith

Norman

McArthur

Mary

 

Duncan

12

Nov

1826

9

Aug

1826

Kilchoman

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

McGregor

John

McArthur

Marrion

 

Duncan

29

Jan

1832

2

Jan

1832

Kilchoman

McArthur

Charles

McNeill

Christian

 

Mary

 

 

 

10

Dec

1831

Kilchoman

McArthur

Charles

McNeill

Christian

 

Duncan

11

Feb

1838

12

Nov

1835

Kilchoman

McArthur

Charles

McNeill

Christian

 

Jane

 

 

 

1

Mar

1841

Kilchoman

McArthur

Charles

McNeill

Christian

 

Margaret

 

 

 

14

May

1850

Kilchoman

McArthur

Charles

McNeill

Christian

 

Marion

 

 

 

1

Nov

1852

Kilchoman

McArthur

Duncan

Campbell

Isabella

 

George

19

Dec

1821

 

 

 

Kilchoman

McArthur

Donald

Morrison

Margaret

 

Duncan

12

Feb

1823

23

Dec

1822

Kilchoman

McArthur

Donald

Morrison

Margaret

 

Mary

8

Jan

1826

11

Oct

1825

Kilchoman

McArthur

Donald

Morrison

Margaret

 

Catherine

 

 

 

20

Feb

1829

Kilchoman

Bell

Niel

McArthur

Elizabeth

Scarabus

Niel

 

 

 

17

Oct

1823

Kilarrow

Clarke

Malcolm

McArthur

Isabella

 

Betty

10

Sep

1824

30

Aug

1824

Kilchoman

Clerk

Malcolm

McArthur

Isabella

 

Duncan

5

Oct

1828

8

Dec

1827

Kilchoman

Clerk

Malcolm

McArthur

Isabella

 

Janet

19

Apr

1821

 

 

 

Kilchoman

McAlister

Alexander

McArthur

Catherine

 

Marrion

28

Aug

1831

12

Nov

1829

Kilchoman

McAlister

Alexander

McArthur

Catherine

 

Duncan

28

Aug

1831

2

Aug

1831

Kilchoman

McAlister

Alexander

McArthur

Catherine

 

John

15

Feb

1835

18

Jan

1834

Portnahaven

McAlister

Alexander

McArthur

Catherine

 

Archibald

 

 

 

12

Sep

1836

Portnahaven

McAlister

Alexander

McArthur

Catherine

 

Marielly

 

 

 

1

Dec

1838

Portnahaven

McAlister

Alexander

McArthur

Catherine

 

Catherine

 

 

 

4

Jun

1841

Portnahaven

Galbraith

Norman

McArthur

Mary

 

Margaret

13

Sep

1823

4

Sep

1823

Kilchoman

McGregor

John

McArthur

Marrion

 

John

8

Jun

1828

3

Apr

1828

Kilchoman

McGregor

John

McArthur

Marrion

 

Donald

16

Jun

1830

3

May

1830

Kilchoman

 

 

From: Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io [mailto:Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io] On Behalf Of laithlinn via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2020 9:17 AM
To: Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Islay] Islay

 

I have long had a 'brickwall' concerning my g.g. grandparents on Islay, but with the renewed interest and more DNA studies, I'm hoping someone might be able to enlighten me. My g.grandmother, Mary McArthur, christened 14 Mar 1840 at Islay House Farm, was daughter to James McArthur, b. abt. 1805 (Ag lab at Islay House), and Annabella McGilvray (b. abt. 1807), Marriage, 13 Feb 1827 at Kilchoman. Annabella was daughter to Archibald McGilvray (b, abt. 1776, Kilarrow, d. 5/04/1859) and Margaret McInnes (b. abt. 1772, Kilmeny). Archibald's parents were Alexander McGilvray and Marion McTaggart. Marriage, 21 Mar 1773, Kilarrow (names on certificate were 'Alex McIloray and Marrion McIntagart). So far, so good with that.......problem is with the elusive James McArthur. Still trying to find if he was from Islay (marriage certificate says he was from from Kilchoman at time of marriage), and some subsequent census taken says he was. Copy I have of his death certificate ( June, 1866, Glasgow) with info given by widow, Annabella, says his parents were Duncan McArthur and Mary Currie. Can find nothing anywhere, so far to confirm. Roger McWee could not find as to Islay, and have turned up nothing via Scotlands People that might shed some light in a concrete manner. I am not particularly savvy as to computers or research, so hoping someone might fill in some of the gaps in this family, as younger members of my family are now interested in their lineage, for which I am grateful.     Diana Vandiviere


Re: PAF software

Sharee Hughes
 

Hi, Ken. I also used to use PAF and was upset when my computer died and I couldn't get it again. Fortunately, I had already put all of my stuff on FamilySearch, so that's what I do now. I just add new finds to FamilySearch online. You don't have to be a member of the LDS Church o use FamilySearch.

Sharee

On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 2:44 PM Ken Harrison <kenharrison43@...> wrote:

I’d appreciate some advice from others who have gone before me on this.  I have resisted upgrading from Win7 out of fear that some (all?) of my old software would not work under Win10.

I’m being forced to make the move now, and wonder about PAF5.

I know that it is no longer available, and is not supported, and has not been replaced with anything else, so …

 

Have any of you found that it will/won’t operate under Win10?

If not, what is the best alternative, given that I will need to import all my data on over 29,000 persons?  I know in the past that some of the popular knock-offs did not support all the fields in PAF (birth and Bap, death & burial, etc).

 

Any general advice?  I’m sure several others are in a similar situation …

 

Ken Harrison

North Vancouver, Canada

 


Re: PAF software

Ken Harrison
 

I’d appreciate some advice from others who have gone before me on this.  I have resisted upgrading from Win7 out of fear that some (all?) of my old software would not work under Win10.

I’m being forced to make the move now, and wonder about PAF5.

I know that it is no longer available, and is not supported, and has not been replaced with anything else, so …

 

Have any of you found that it will/won’t operate under Win10?

If not, what is the best alternative, given that I will need to import all my data on over 29,000 persons?  I know in the past that some of the popular knock-offs did not support all the fields in PAF (birth and Bap, death & burial, etc).

 

Any general advice?  I’m sure several others are in a similar situation …

 

Ken Harrison

North Vancouver, Canada

 


Re: Suggestion

Ken Harrison
 

And I notice that a high proportion of the replies are posted without the message to which they refer.  Especially when the subject line is incorrect, this makes such messages almost useless.
This seems to happen when replies are sent using the links at the bottom.  The only way I could find to include the original on this is to use “reply” in my mail system. 

Ken iPad

On Jan 28, 2020, at 12:15 PM, Anne Farrar <afarrar@...> wrote:


Hi folks,
 
I’m sure you all have a hundred or so messages titled re: Roll Call? To help everyone in finding pertinent clues to their own tree may I suggest you title each message with a hint to its content.
Eg if you are responding to a message about a person, family, location put that in your subject!
 
I am finding it difficult to collate hints in other’s e-mails and they are important so please put the subject of your response on your e-mail!!
 
Thanks
 
Anne


Suggestion

Anne Farrar
 

Hi folks,
 
I’m sure you all have a hundred or so messages titled re: Roll Call? To help everyone in finding pertinent clues to their own tree may I suggest you title each message with a hint to its content.
Eg if you are responding to a message about a person, family, location put that in your subject!
 
I am finding it difficult to collate hints in other’s e-mails and they are important so please put the subject of your response on your e-mail!!
 
Thanks
 
Anne


Re: Roll Call ?

Dan Niven
 


Hi all,.

I've been on this listserv for a while but have not posted due to family responsibilities.  My GGG-grandfather was Daniel MacNiven.  He was born on Islay June 12, 1766 and lived there until he emigrated to New York in 1791. 

On Tuesday, January 28, 2020, 12:23:42 PM EST, J LOCHRIDGE via Groups.Io <j.lochridge@...> wrote:


Interesting,
Maybe Donald Brown and my 3X great grandmother Mary Brown are related.  Do you happen to have taken a DNA test?  I have results on Ancestry and I also have trees there if you are interested
Regards
Johan

 
 


On Tuesday, 28 January 2020, 16:53:32 GMT, Timothy Brown <tjb654@...> wrote:


Hello, All,

My Islay ancestors are Donald Brown and Marion Campbell (b. 17 Feb 1793), and Peter Brown (b. 7 Mar 1777) and Effie Currie (b. 8 Sep 1793). I believe all were from Tallant and came to Ontario, Canada, about 1835.

Tim Brown



On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 1:41 AM Diane Rogers <diane_rogers@...> wrote:

Hi, everyone. 

There are now 177 of us here. Would you like to start a roll call? Just the Islay people's names and places you are interested in.

I am thinking we can also build up a database for the people we are researching.

We can post images too - however - there is an overall size limit for images on free lists here. So be cautious and resize them, please.  I would love to see photos of those we know came from Islay, if we have them.

Diane 



--


Roll Call ?

Lola Cook
 

My ancestors are: Stewart, McEwing/McEwen/McOuin; Brown; McTaggart; McCaig/McCuaig; Wallace; Stevenson; McGeachy; Gilchrist

Archibald McEwing, born btwn 1730-40, married Katherine McTaggart in Kildalton on Dec. 21, 1759. Son John McEwing born 1761 in Kildalton, married Janet McTaggart on Feb. 7, 1790.
A son John born 1807, married Flora Stevenson, daughter of Neil Stevenson and Catherine McTaggart, about 1825. Child from the marriage was Joseph McEwing, born July 24, 1828 in Killallan, died Jun 14, 1888 in Campbeltown, Argyll. Joseph married Mary Wallace, daughter of John Wallace and Margaret Gilchrist on Dec. 13, 1853 in Campbeltown. Mary was born on Jan. 6, 1829 in Killean. A child from this marriage was Catherine McEwing, born March 10, 1857 in Campbeltown, died May 18, 1921.
Catherine married Hugh Stewart on Dec. 1, 1885. Hugh was son of John Stewart and Mary McCaig/McCuaig. Hugh was born in August 1846 in Easdale. Mary McCaig was daughter of Donald McCaig and Betsy Brown. John was a Tinsmith.
Hugh & Catherine had a son, Robert McEwing Stewart, born July 25, 1886, died July 25 1958 in Winnipeg, MB Canada.

Hugh Stewart is my “brick wall”. He was my paternal grandfather and I want to know where and when he died. After a hasty marriage to Catherine, he seems to have disappeared. I have early records of his life….he was a Masons Labourer. At age 17 he joined the army, 73rd Foot, and served long enough to have a Chelsea Pension. I’ve been unable to find any further record of his whereabouts and his death. Any help most appreciated!!