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Re: Sinclair/McDougall
Malcolm Campbell
Hi Toni
Good to reconnect for the Islay List’s resurrection.
Still searching our various Islay ancestors.
Just broke a Brick Wall from there.
Found the birth of my Islay GG Dugald CAMPBELL, who was actually born on
Kilmodan, on the mainland. His mother, Catherine McNAIR was an Islay lass. He
married an Islay girl, Anne KEITH, Found his line on the LDS Family Search
site.
For Alexander McDOUGALL and Christina Sinclair, I have these children
Catherine McDOUGALL
John McDOUGALL 1783, Grastle, (Grastill) the Oa, Islay. D. Jul 1871, Thorah
Twp., Beaverton, ON I have him married to a Christina McDougall.
Tombstones in the Old Stone Church in Thorah. Stopped there on the way home from
our Islay Gathering. Time well spent.
Peter "Angus" (King of Egypt) McDOUGALL, Sep 1780, Grastle, Islay
Argylshire, Scotland, D. 01 Jan 1869, Old Stone Church, Thorah; Cemetery
transcript for Old Stone Church Cemetary says "Jan 2, 1869 aged 88 yrs. Native
of Islay; 'Jesus has called our father home, His flesh lies mouldering in this
tomb. God grant his offspring may be blessed and then meet him in eternal
rest.'
Allan McDOUGALL, 1781, Grastle,
This John 1783 is my ggg, my gg Mary McDOUGALL’s father. She married
Malcolm CURRIE. His first wife had died in Childbirth on the 5 acre lots in
Duntroon. He went back to Thorah and told them there about her death. This young
Mary said she would raise his child. They could not live together so they had to
marry.
Still
considering the OGS conference in Ottawa next June. If I get the
SHOT?? Do
you plan to be there? My
best, Malcolm
Hi
Malcolm. Nice to hear from you again. Thanks for the information,
because I seem to have made a mistake in my records. I agree that
Christian S. married Alexander McDougall, but I had their son,
John, born ca 1783, who married a Christina McDougall. I'll make that
correction right away. I also had a note that John and Christina
immigrated to Thora township in Ontario. Is that correct? Toni
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Re: email address
Helen Campbell Blair <helencblair@...>
Hi Steve, Status quo - please.. I still, as I think you know, refer to your site from time to time and I have occasionally directed others to it as well. Please keep safe and well. Helen
On Tue, Jan 5, 2021 at 7:11 PM Steve G <steve99166@...> wrote:
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Re: email address
Steve G <steve99166@...>
Hi guys,
Let’s see if I can answer the various queries below…………
The original Islay/Rootsweb list was started in conjunction with the Islay branch of my genealogy. Admittedly the list and the website together produced some big steps towards overall genealogical research about Islay. When I took my leave in 2003, and left the list to others, the website became static, and the list suffered and faded. Most of you know the story.
Facebook has been a good place to shift to, everyone can share stories, and pictures – plus it has gone far beyond what the initial intention of my website was – it’s become a forum for lots of other Islay memories that don’t really apply to digging for our ancestors roots, it’s been very enjoyable to sit back and watch.
Now, Sue asked about asking me to delete the list – my reservation would be that there is a good deal of data contained in the archival messages for the list. I don’t know if deleting the list would also delete that – that would be unacceptable to me – but otherwise the existing list serves very little purpose. Plus I’m not certain that I could delete it, the control of the list has changed hands……..
And yes, Iain, my website is still there, the URL has not changed:
http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~steve/islay/data.htm
A few of the external links from my website, do not work, but all the original content is still there.
Hazel, you may find some information here:
http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~steve/islay/surnames.htm
Some of the email addys may be outdated though.
I’ve found that most people don’t seem to be aware of all the info that is available on my website. I’m not one to be much of a self-promoter, but everyone should feel free to share links to my website, and even to specific pages that people may appreciate. Again, my time is not centered on genealogy, and I don’t follow the Old Islay FB page very diligently either, but do stop by from time to time.
Hope everyone is well and coping with all the challenges the covid pandemic has brought to the world. Cheers, Steve G Seattle
------------------------------------------- This list is so much outdated, it might be a better idea to ask Steve to delete it entirely. At a quick glance, I see 2 who are deceased (Robert Keith, Ted Larson) and 4 whose email addresses are changed (Helen Blair, Dixie Cutler, Jean Hutchinson, and Toni Sinclair) and that's probably just the tip of the iceberg.
The view from here, Sue Visser
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The original researchers list was compiled by Johan and myself a good few years ago. It was passed to Steve Gilchrist who added it to his Islay Data site, now on Rootsweb. I don't know if this site can still be accessed, amended or deleted. Steve Gilchrist, can you advise? Hazel, I have updated your details on my master list and attached it the updated copy.
Regards
Iain MacIntosh
----------------------------------------------------- A dcument came out recently that had all the people that were doing research on their Islay ancestry. I noticed that the list had an old e-mail address for me. I had sent in the up-to-date one but it hasn't been changed. Could anyone tell me who I should contact to get that changed. sesrching for Calder, Campbell, MacDougall
Hazel Bochinski haz57cal@...
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Re: Sinclair/McDougall
Ken Harrison
HNY to both of you! I had the same (but I think all my info came from Johan) Ken Harrison
From: Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io <Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io> On Behalf Of tsinclair@...
Sent: January 5, 2021 12:00 PM To: Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io Subject: Re: [Islay] Sinclair/McDougall
Hi Malcolm. Nice to hear from you again. Thanks for the information, because I seem to have made a mistake in my records. I agree that Christian S. married Alexander McDougall, but I had their son, John, born ca 1783, who married a Christina McDougall. I'll make that correction right away. I also had a note that John and Christina immigrated to Thora township in Ontario. Is that correct?
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Re: Sinclair/McDougall
tsinclair@...
Hi Malcolm. Nice to hear from you again. Thanks for the information, because I seem to have made a mistake in my records. I agree that Christian S. married Alexander McDougall, but I had their son, John, born ca 1783, who married a Christina McDougall. I'll make that correction right away. I also had a note that John and Christina immigrated to Thora township in Ontario. Is that correct?
Toni
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Re: suggestion for a new list
Embleton House
This makes perfect sense to me. Faith
Embleton House B&B Licence # 009-002809 5203 52 Street Yellowknife, NT. Canada, X1A 1T8 Ph: 1-867-873-2892 Ext: 0 Ph: Toll free in North America: 1-888-909-5203 Fax: 1-867-873-4927
From: Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io <Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io> On Behalf Of Allan Moore
Sent: January 5, 2021 6:26 AM To: Islay@scotland-genealogy.groups.io Subject: Re: [Islay] suggestion for a new list
Hi Ian
Let me look into it and see if I have any free cycles in the near future. I am always wary of taking on a project if I know I cannot give it 100%.
I will look into it and get back to the group, either way, as soon as possible.
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Re: suggestion for a new list
Iain MacIntosh
Thanks for your response. Most folk on the original list found the spreadsheet data useful for identifying and communicating with others on the list who were researching their family names.
Iain
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Re: suggestion for a new list
Allan Moore
Hi Ian Let me look into it and see if I have any free cycles in the near future. I am always wary of taking on a project if I know I cannot give it 100%. I will look into it and get back to the group, either way, as soon as possible.
On Jan 5, 2021, at 03:35, Iain MacIntosh <iainmacintosh75@...> wrote:
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Re: suggestion for a new list
Iain MacIntosh
Hi Allan Are you offering your experience and expertise? It would certainly solve the issues you have highlighted Kindest regards Iain MacIntosh Iain
On 4 Jan 2021, at 20:11, Allan Moore <agmoore21@...> wrote:
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Re: Islay Reunion 2004
Malcolm Campbell
Hey Toni
Welcome back.
Took pictures at the Islay gathering in 2005. Great to meet other Islay
researchers there.
Among whom was my Christine Harenberg who is my 5th cousin through the
common Islay ancestor listed below, our 5th gg Alexander McDOUGALL and Christine
SINCLAIR.
We last met at an OGS annual several years back
Had I told you that my 4th gg was Christina SINCLAIR, b. circa 1760,
m. to John McDOUGALL, also b. circa 1760.
Their daughter was Christina McDOUGALL, b. 1794 in Grastle, (Grastill) the
Oa, Islay, Argyle, Scotland,
m. on 26 Feb 1812 in BOTP -- Kilarrow Islay, Argyle, Scotland, to
John McDOUGALL b. 1783 also in Grastle, (Grastill) the Oa, Islay, Argyle,
Scotland
They had 8 children, one of whom was my gg Mary McDOUGALL who married
Malcolm CURRIE. Guess whom I’m ultimately named for?
Hello
to all of you Islay researchers. Yes, the "Return of the Children"
was a wonderful gathering back in 2004 - so great to meet the folks we had been
corresponding with! Sorry to have been absent for the last couple of years, but it's nice to see familiar names who are still here, and I look forward to "meeting" newer members and getting caught up. I'm still tracing all Islay Sinclairs, so if any of you have some hiding in the closet, please dust them off and let's compare notes. Best wishes to all of you for successful research in the coming year. Toni
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Re: Islay Reunion 2004
tsinclair@...
Hello to all of you Islay researchers. Yes, the "Return of the Children" was a wonderful gathering back in 2004 - so great to meet the folks we had been corresponding with!
Sorry to have been absent for the last couple of years, but it's nice to see familiar names who are still here, and I look forward to "meeting" newer members and getting caught up. I'm still tracing all Islay Sinclairs, so if any of you have some hiding in the closet, please dust them off and let's compare notes. Best wishes to all of you for successful research in the coming year. Toni
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Re: suggestion for a new list
Allan Moore
I am a data scientist and business/artificial intelligence expert by trade. Just a cautionary warning - whatever list is created, it will have to be curated. Somebody will have to monitor and “clean up” the list. In the trade there is a saying (substitute your own version of ‘garbage’) “garbage in - garbage out”. Not everyone is tech savvy and most people do not read the instructions. Having a spreadsheet that is user editable without proper curating can be difficult to maintain and control. I think it would be better to have a fillable GUI (graphical user interface) that is relatively fool proof, may be the way to go, as it will fill the spread sheet and do its magic behind it. Also if you want you can make that same GUI also searchable, so entering your search information into the interface will return only results that are pertinent to your query. Just my 2c worth as I have battled with poor information for decades.
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Re: suggestion for a new list
Anne Farrar
Hi, Anne again
My suggestion: Use the "database" (on left side of this screen) and use the same format as the "rootsweb" spreadsheet.
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Re: suggestion for a new list
S a Bisset
That would be a really helpful idea.
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Mary McIntyre NZ (Islay family McIntyre, Macdougal, Macgillivray, Macalister)
On 04 January 2021 at 11:59 Russ McGillivray <russmcgillivray@...> wrote:
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Re: Islay Searchers' List
I am not aware of a connection to these people although the lines probably cross somewhere. Interestingly though, my maternal grandmother was a McNabb whose people came to Oro County from Islay about 1830. It really is a small world . Best wishes as you search your family members. Glynn Sent from my Galaxy
-------- Original message -------- From: L MOON <moonjett@...> Date: 2021-01-03 15:40 (GMT-08:00) To: Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io Subject: Re: [Islay] Islay Searchers' List Hi Glynn
My Gr-grandfather was Archibald CURRIE who married Flora GALBRAITH on 7 March 1871 in Oro, Simcoe County, ONTARIO. The marriage reg says he was 30 [b~1841], born on Islay and his parents were James and Lizzie CURRIE. We have not been able to find any evidence of him in Scotland, or of his parents. The 1901 Ontario Census shows Archie’s immigration year as 1865. I have found an 1866 passenger list that includes A CURRIE age 25 single male arriving in Quebec in June – possibly him. I have two DNA Matches 117cm and 125cM, who are cousins known to one another. I have found their gr-gr-grandmother Mary CURRIE. On her 1860 Ontario marriage reg to John POLLOCK it shows she was born 1841 on Islay, and her parents are shown as James CURRIE and Eliza LYNCH. The 1901 Tosorontio, Simcoe County, Ontario census gives Mary's immigration year as 1847 when she was only ~6 yrs old. I can’t find James CURRIE or Eliza LYNCH on Scotland’s People. This Mary CURRIE, it says, was born about 1841 on Islay, as was my Archibald CURRIE. They could have the same parents. Somehow I, and some cousins, have a DNA connection to the two Matches mentioned above.
Our brick wall.
We sure would be pleased to hear of any clues that you might have to further this search.
Lois
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: Glynn Currie
I wonder which Currie branch you are following. My grandfather was John Currie born in Duich Lots in 1878. He married Flora McDiarmid born in Bowmore in 1883. John emigrated to Canada in 1902. Flora emigrated in 1910. They were married shortly after her arrival. John’s father was Donald Currie and his mother was Catherine McFadyen. Glynn Currie
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: L MOON
Hi Folks
I have a more up-to-date email moonjettgenea@... PS - My address on the list still works moonjett@... but I’m shift to gmail.
Thanks Lois Moon
Searching CURRIE and GALBRAITH
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Re: Islay Searchers' List
L MOON
Hi Glynn
My Gr-grandfather was Archibald CURRIE who married Flora GALBRAITH on 7 March 1871 in Oro, Simcoe County, ONTARIO. The marriage reg says he was 30 [b~1841], born on Islay and his parents were James and Lizzie CURRIE. We have not been able to find any evidence of him in Scotland, or of his parents. The 1901 Ontario Census shows Archie’s immigration year as 1865. I have found an 1866 passenger list that includes A CURRIE age 25 single male arriving in Quebec in June – possibly him. I have two DNA Matches 117cm and 125cM, who are cousins known to one another. I have found their gr-gr-grandmother Mary CURRIE. On her 1860 Ontario marriage reg to John POLLOCK it shows she was born 1841 on Islay, and her parents are shown as James CURRIE and Eliza LYNCH. The 1901 Tosorontio, Simcoe County, Ontario census gives Mary's immigration year as 1847 when she was only ~6 yrs old. I can’t find James CURRIE or Eliza LYNCH on Scotland’s People. This Mary CURRIE, it says, was born about 1841 on Islay, as was my Archibald CURRIE. They could have the same parents. Somehow I, and some cousins, have a DNA connection to the two Matches mentioned above.
Our brick wall.
We sure would be pleased to hear of any clues that you might have to further this search.
Lois
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: Glynn Currie
Sent: January 3, 2021 11:07 AM To: Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io Subject: Re: [Islay] Islay Searchers' List
I wonder which Currie branch you are following. My grandfather was John Currie born in Duich Lots in 1878. He married Flora McDiarmid born in Bowmore in 1883. John emigrated to Canada in 1902. Flora emigrated in 1910. They were married shortly after her arrival. John’s father was Donald Currie and his mother was Catherine McFadyen. Glynn Currie
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: L MOON
Hi Folks
I have a more up-to-date email moonjettgenea@... PS - My address on the list still works moonjett@... but I’m shift to gmail.
Thanks Lois Moon
Searching CURRIE and GALBRAITH
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Re: suggestion for a new list
Russ McGillivray
You don't want anything to do with Rootsweb!
There is a Files folder right here in Islay@Scotland-Genealogy groups.io All we need is to create a Google Docs spreadsheet with the same columns as the old Excel file, and allow people to enter their own information. Russ
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Re: suggestion for a new list
Embleton House
What information do you wish to collect is my first question I will talk to them today about it.
Embleton House B&B Licence # 009-002809 5203 52 Street Yellowknife, NT. Canada, X1A 1T8 Ph: 1-867-873-2892 Ext: 0 Ph: Toll free in North America: 1-888-909-5203 Fax: 1-867-873-4927
From: Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io <Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io> On Behalf Of M. Diane Rogers
Sent: January 3, 2021 12:08 PM To: Islay <Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io> Subject: Re: [Islay] suggestion for a new list
OK. Faith. Thanks. She can be in touch with me about a new list. In the meantime, I will take a look at the website in the next few days and enquire about adding it. However, bear in mind that Rootsweb seems much in disarray again at the moment. Diane M Diane Rogers
From: "Embleton House" <ehouse@...>
I will talk to my office smart daughter and daughter in law and see what I can come up with Faith
Embleton House B&B Licence # 009-002809 5203 52 Street Yellowknife, NT. Canada, X1A 1T8 Ph: 1-867-873-2892 Ext: 0 Ph: Toll free in North America: 1-888-909-5203 Fax: 1-867-873-4927
From: Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io <Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io> On Behalf Of Anne Farrar
There is a spot for storing databases. Perhaps someone who is good with excel could create a new spreadsheet and everyone could enter their own name, e-mail and research interests on that sheet. It would then be available to everyone and no one would have to take on the huge task of creating a list of everyone
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Re: suggestion for a new list
OK. Faith. Thanks. She can be in touch with me about a new list. In the meantime, I will take a look at the website in the next few days and enquire about adding it. However, bear in mind that Rootsweb seems much in disarray again at the moment. Diane M Diane Rogers
From: "Embleton House" <ehouse@...> To: "Islay" <Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, January 3, 2021 10:56:46 AM Subject: Re: [Islay] suggestion for a new list I will talk to my office smart daughter and daughter in law and see what I can come up with Faith
Embleton House B&B Licence # 009-002809 5203 52 Street Yellowknife, NT. Canada, X1A 1T8 Ph: 1-867-873-2892 Ext: 0 Ph: Toll free in North America: 1-888-909-5203 Fax: 1-867-873-4927
From: Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io <Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io> On Behalf Of Anne Farrar
There is a spot for storing databases. Perhaps someone who is good with excel could create a new spreadsheet and everyone could enter their own name, e-mail and research interests on that sheet. It would then be available to everyone and no one would have to take on the huge task of creating a list of everyone
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Re: Islay Searchers' List
I wonder which Currie branch you are following. My grandfather was John Currie born in Duich Lots in 1878. He married Flora McDiarmid born in Bowmore in 1883. John emigrated to Canada in 1902. Flora emigrated in 1910. They were married shortly after her arrival. John’s father was Donald Currie and his mother was Catherine McFadyen. Glynn Currie
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: L MOON
Sent: January 3, 2021 12:17 AM To: islay@scotland-genealogy.groups.io Subject: [Islay] Islay Searchers' List
Hi Folks
I have a more up-to-date email moonjettgenea@... PS - My address on the list still works moonjett@... but I’m shift to gmail.
Thanks Lois Moon
Searching CURRIE and GALBRAITH
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