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email address
H. B.
A dcument came out recently that had all the people that were doing research on their Islay ancestry. I noticed that the list had an old e-mail address for me. I had sent in the up-to-date one but it hasn't been changed. Could anyone tell me who I should contact to get that changed. sesrching for Calder, Campbell, MacDougall
Hazel Bochinski haz57cal@yahoo.ca
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Re: Merry Christmas - Nollaig Chridheil & Bliadhna Mhath Ùr
Morag Fowler
Bliadhna means “year”, ur with an accent is “new”, so literally the greeting is “year good new”.
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Best wishes for Christmas and for 2021, Morag
On 25 Dec 2020, at 01:40, tsinclair@... wrote:
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Re: Merry Christmas - Nollaig Chridheil & Bliadhna Mhath Ùr
Sue Visser
Hi Toni
Norm has also mentioned many similarities through the years.
Historically there was a significant relationship between the Netherlands and
Scotland. The East Neuk north of Edinburgh is a perfect example – you’d
think you were walking in Dutch towns with the stepped roof lines.
Decades ago we watched a series on the origins of language. The last
program was quite memorable as it was determined that the Frisian language was
the origin! With the similarities between Fries and Gaelic – hmmmm.
Something to ponder.
Merry Christmas!
Sue
From: tsinclair@...
Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2020 8:40 PM
To: Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Islay] Merry Christmas - Nollaig Chridheil &
Bliadhna Mhath Ùr Best
wishes for good health to all of you this Christmas season I'm curious about the Gaelic word Bliadhna. I assume it means Happy. In Dutch, the word "blij" (pronounced Bly, means happy. I've seen other words that are similar too. I might have to dig into this in the future, but in the meantime "Happy New Year" in any language everyone! Toni
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Re: Merry Christmas - Nollaig Chridheil & Bliadhna Mhath Ùr
tsinclair@...
Best wishes for good health to all of you this Christmas season
I'm curious about the Gaelic word Bliadhna. I assume it means Happy. In Dutch, the word "blij" (pronounced Bly, means happy. I've seen other words that are similar too. I might have to dig into this in the future, but in the meantime "Happy New Year" in any language everyone! Toni
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Re: Merry Christmas - Nollaig Chridheil & Bliadhna Mhath Ùr
Edith Ferguson
Thank you. Back at you
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On Dec 23, 2020, at 9:54 AM, Dixie Cutler <dixcutler@...> wrote:
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Re: Merry Christmas - Nollaig Chridheil & Bliadhna Mhath Ùr
To you, too. Dixie
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Merry Christmas - Nollaig Chridheil & Bliadhna Mhath Ùr
Sue Visser
Sending Christmas greetings to all – and a Happy, Healthy 2021.
Sue Visser
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interesting webinar from Scotland Wed Nov 25
Sue Visser
If I have this worked out correctly, in Ontario the time is 2 pm on
Wed.
Sue Visser
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Re: Islay Reunion 2004
Malcolm Campbell
My mistake. OOOps
At the Peterborough gathering,
Ancestry just told me she was a 5th cousin. Shared common 4th great
grandparents.
Bit of a stretch
Malcolm Campbell
From: Carolyn Harmon
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2020 7:22 AM
Subject: Re: [Islay] Islay Reunion 2004 Enjoyed both Islay and Peterborough gatherings! I also met cousins
while in Ontario. (I hope this reply doesn't copy everything. I had
trouble with that before.)
Carolyn On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 8:02 PM Malcolm Campbell
<malcolmr.campbell@...>
wrote:
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Re: Islay Reunion 2004
Carolyn Harmon
Enjoyed both Islay and Peterborough gatherings! I also met cousins while in Ontario. (I hope this reply doesn't copy everything. I had trouble with that before.) Carolyn
On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 8:02 PM Malcolm Campbell <malcolmr.campbell@...> wrote:
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Re: Islay Reunion 2004
Malcolm Campbell
The reunion I attended in Peterborough in 2005 was so memorable. Met a 4th
cousin.
Malcolm Campbell
Hi
Diane. Thank you for fun memories. Yes the pics are mine 😊. I've
looked at the participant pics through the years. I miss seeing some of
those folks on our present list.
Take care and keep well wishes to all.
Sue
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Re: Islay Reunion 2004
Sue Visser
Hi Diane. Thank you for fun memories. Yes the pics are mine 😊. I've looked at the participant pics through the years. I miss seeing some of those folks on our present list.
Take care and keep well wishes to all. Sue
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Re: Islay Reunion 2004
2004 the best of times. Thanks for the reminder.
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On Oct 28, 2020, at 12:33 PM, M. Diane Rogers <diane_rogers@...> wrote:
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Islay Reunion 2004
Feeling nostalgic today. Just came across this photo from the 2004 Reunion on Islay.
Lots more Reunion photos on Steve Gilchrist's Isle of Islay site: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~steve/islay/photos/sue/2004a/islay2004a.html I think these are all or mostly Sue Visser's photos. Thank you, Sue.
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Re: Poor house later called Gortonvoggie
Janet Chubb
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From: Dbmckellar via groups.io
Sent: October 27, 2020 4:45 PM To: moonjett@...; Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io Subject: Re: [Islay] Poor house later called Gortonvoggie
Catherine Currie. Was she married to Dugald McLachlan? From Kilfinan?
Don McKellar -----Original Message----- Hi Janet and all
I see where you mentioned information taken from the Poor Book of Kilarrow. Is that Book available for searching someplace ?
I, too, am searching for my CURRIE ancestors of Islay. My gr-grandfather, Archibald CURRIE was born around 1838 on Islay. He immigrated to Central Ontario probably around 1865. On his 1871 Ontario, Canada marriage to Flora GILCHRIST, he gave his parents names as James and Lizzie CURRIE. I have been exploring the possible relationship of a DNA Match whose ancestor was Mary CURRIE born about 1841 on Islay, and gave her parents’ names as James CURRIE and Eliza LYNCH. We have found no record of their coming to Canada or of their parents on Islay. Perhaps they were in a poor house and sent away from there.
The Poor Book of Kilarrow provide a clue.
Lois Moon
From: Janet Chubb
I do not know when Donald Currie or his wife Catherine Sinclair Currie passed away. I found a death record for their daughter Catherine Currie who was a sister to Alexander Currie who passed away in the Poorhouse, on 13 March 1874. She never married.
Donald Currie and Catherine Sinclair Currie children are: Catherine Currie 1784 died 13 March 1874 in the Poorhouse Mary Currie born 3 Feb 1787 husband unknown. Iver Currie 18 Dec 1791 may have moved to the States not sure Ann Currie 10 Dec 1796 husband unknown Alexander Currie 1797 married Mary Buie from Jura moved 1851 on the Sea Walrus to Canada, they settled in Grey Co Ontario.
This is all the children of Donald Currie and Catherine Sinclair Currie have.
There is this from the Poor Book of Kilarrow c 1852 page 29 In 1868 Catherine Currie was aged 84 and housed in the Poor house in Bowmore. Her parents were confirmed as Donald Currie a labourer and Catherine Sinclair both deceased at this time
The thing is you can believe all you want but need proof. Which is hard to find the further a person goes back.
Have a good day
Janet
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: Anne Goeden
Hello:
I've found a reference on My Heritage to the deaths of Donald Currie who died just before 1851 in this poorhouse and his wife Catharine Sinclair who passed away shortly after.
I and my cousins are matching via DNA to some of the descendants of Alexander Currie 1798-1866 (son of the above couple)
I'm trying to figure out if my ggg grandmother Mary Currie 1794-1877 and her brother Donald Currie 1806-1877 were siblings of Alexander. We believe the mother of Mary and Donald was a Sinclair. If they weren't siblings they might have been first cousins.
Anyway, would the death records for the poorhouse (c 1850/51) be in the parish records? or was there a separate register at the poorhouse? Also might there be any poorhouse admission records that might shed light on this couple? ( who could be my gggg grandparents)
Thanks for any help.
Anne Goeden
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Re: Poor house later called Gortonvoggie
Dbmckellar
Catherine Currie. Was she married to Dugald McLachlan? From Kilfinan?
Don McKellar
-----Original Message-----
From: L MOON <moonjett@...> To: Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io <Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io> Sent: Tue, Oct 27, 2020 1:29 am Subject: Re: [Islay] Poor house later called Gortonvoggie Hi Janet and all
I see where you mentioned information taken from the Poor Book of Kilarrow. Is that Book available for searching someplace ?
I, too, am searching for my CURRIE ancestors of Islay. My gr-grandfather, Archibald CURRIE was born around 1838 on Islay. He immigrated to Central Ontario probably around 1865. On his 1871 Ontario, Canada marriage to Flora GILCHRIST, he gave his parents names as James and Lizzie CURRIE. I have been exploring the possible relationship of a DNA Match whose ancestor was Mary CURRIE born about 1841 on Islay, and gave her parents’ names as James CURRIE and Eliza LYNCH. We have found no record of their coming to Canada or of their parents on Islay. Perhaps they were in a poor house and sent away from there.
The Poor Book of Kilarrow provide a clue.
Lois Moon
From: Janet Chubb
Sent: October 27, 2020 12:37 AM To: Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io Subject: Re: [Islay] Poor house later called Gortonvoggie I do not know when Donald Currie or his wife Catherine Sinclair Currie passed away. I found a death record for their daughter Catherine Currie who was a sister to Alexander Currie who passed away in the Poorhouse, on 13 March 1874. She never married.
Donald Currie and Catherine Sinclair Currie children are:
Catherine Currie 1784 died 13 March 1874 in the Poorhouse
Mary Currie born 3 Feb 1787 husband unknown.
Iver Currie 18 Dec 1791 may have moved to the States not sure
Ann Currie 10 Dec 1796 husband unknown
Alexander Currie 1797 married Mary Buie from Jura moved 1851 on the Sea Walrus to Canada, they settled in Grey Co Ontario.
This is all the children of Donald Currie and Catherine Sinclair Currie have.
There is this from the Poor Book of Kilarrow c 1852 page 29
In 1868 Catherine Currie was aged 84 and housed in the Poor house in Bowmore. Her parents were confirmed as Donald Currie a labourer and Catherine Sinclair both deceased at this time
The thing is you can believe all you want but need proof. Which is hard to find the further a person goes back.
Have a good day
Janet
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: Anne Goeden
Sent: October 26, 2020 6:17 PM To: Islay@scotland-genealogy.groups.io Subject: [Islay] Poor house later called Gortonvoggie Hello:
I've found a reference on My Heritage to the deaths of Donald Currie who died just before 1851 in this poorhouse and his wife Catharine Sinclair who passed away shortly after.
I and my cousins are matching via DNA to some of the descendants of Alexander Currie 1798-1866 (son of the above couple)
I'm trying to figure out if my ggg grandmother Mary Currie 1794-1877 and her brother Donald Currie 1806-1877 were siblings of Alexander. We believe the mother of Mary and Donald was a Sinclair. If they weren't siblings they might have been first cousins.
Anyway, would the death records for the poorhouse (c 1850/51) be in the parish records? or was there a separate register at the poorhouse? Also might there be any poorhouse admission records that might shed light on this couple? ( who could be my gggg grandparents)
Thanks for any help.
Anne Goeden
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Re: Poor house later called Gortonvoggie
L MOON
Hi Janet and all
I see where you mentioned information taken from the Poor Book of Kilarrow. Is that Book available for searching someplace ?
I, too, am searching for my CURRIE ancestors of Islay. My gr-grandfather, Archibald CURRIE was born around 1838 on Islay. He immigrated to Central Ontario probably around 1865. On his 1871 Ontario, Canada marriage to Flora GILCHRIST, he gave his parents names as James and Lizzie CURRIE. I have been exploring the possible relationship of a DNA Match whose ancestor was Mary CURRIE born about 1841 on Islay, and gave her parents’ names as James CURRIE and Eliza LYNCH. We have found no record of their coming to Canada or of their parents on Islay. Perhaps they were in a poor house and sent away from there.
The Poor Book of Kilarrow provide a clue.
Lois Moon
From: Janet Chubb
Sent: October 27, 2020 12:37 AM To: Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io Subject: Re: [Islay] Poor house later called Gortonvoggie
I do not know when Donald Currie or his wife Catherine Sinclair Currie passed away. I found a death record for their daughter Catherine Currie who was a sister to Alexander Currie who passed away in the Poorhouse, on 13 March 1874. She never married.
Donald Currie and Catherine Sinclair Currie children are: Catherine Currie 1784 died 13 March 1874 in the Poorhouse Mary Currie born 3 Feb 1787 husband unknown. Iver Currie 18 Dec 1791 may have moved to the States not sure Ann Currie 10 Dec 1796 husband unknown Alexander Currie 1797 married Mary Buie from Jura moved 1851 on the Sea Walrus to Canada, they settled in Grey Co Ontario.
This is all the children of Donald Currie and Catherine Sinclair Currie have.
There is this from the Poor Book of Kilarrow c 1852 page 29 In 1868 Catherine Currie was aged 84 and housed in the Poor house in Bowmore. Her parents were confirmed as Donald Currie a labourer and Catherine Sinclair both deceased at this time
The thing is you can believe all you want but need proof. Which is hard to find the further a person goes back.
Have a good day
Janet
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: Anne Goeden
Hello:
I've found a reference on My Heritage to the deaths of Donald Currie who died just before 1851 in this poorhouse and his wife Catharine Sinclair who passed away shortly after.
I and my cousins are matching via DNA to some of the descendants of Alexander Currie 1798-1866 (son of the above couple)
I'm trying to figure out if my ggg grandmother Mary Currie 1794-1877 and her brother Donald Currie 1806-1877 were siblings of Alexander. We believe the mother of Mary and Donald was a Sinclair. If they weren't siblings they might have been first cousins.
Anyway, would the death records for the poorhouse (c 1850/51) be in the parish records? or was there a separate register at the poorhouse? Also might there be any poorhouse admission records that might shed light on this couple? ( who could be my gggg grandparents)
Thanks for any help.
Anne Goeden
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Re: Poor house later called Gortonvoggie
Janet Chubb
I do not know when Donald Currie or his wife Catherine Sinclair Currie passed away. I found a death record for their daughter Catherine Currie who was a sister to Alexander Currie who passed away in the Poorhouse, on 13 March 1874. She never married.
Donald Currie and Catherine Sinclair Currie children are: Catherine Currie 1784 died 13 March 1874 in the Poorhouse Mary Currie born 3 Feb 1787 husband unknown. Iver Currie 18 Dec 1791 may have moved to the States not sure Ann Currie 10 Dec 1796 husband unknown Alexander Currie 1797 married Mary Buie from Jura moved 1851 on the Sea Walrus to Canada, they settled in Grey Co Ontario.
This is all the children of Donald Currie and Catherine Sinclair Currie have.
There is this from the Poor Book of Kilarrow c 1852 page 29 In 1868 Catherine Currie was aged 84 and housed in the Poor house in Bowmore. Her parents were confirmed as Donald Currie a labourer and Catherine Sinclair both deceased at this time
The thing is you can believe all you want but need proof. Which is hard to find the further a person goes back.
Have a good day
Janet
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: Anne Goeden
Sent: October 26, 2020 6:17 PM To: Islay@scotland-genealogy.groups.io Subject: [Islay] Poor house later called Gortonvoggie
Hello:
I've found a reference on My Heritage to the deaths of Donald Currie who died just before 1851 in this poorhouse and his wife Catharine Sinclair who passed away shortly after.
I and my cousins are matching via DNA to some of the descendants of Alexander Currie 1798-1866 (son of the above couple)
I'm trying to figure out if my ggg grandmother Mary Currie 1794-1877 and her brother Donald Currie 1806-1877 were siblings of Alexander. We believe the mother of Mary and Donald was a Sinclair. If they weren't siblings they might have been first cousins.
Anyway, would the death records for the poorhouse (c 1850/51) be in the parish records? or was there a separate register at the poorhouse? Also might there be any poorhouse admission records that might shed light on this couple? ( who could be my gggg grandparents)
Thanks for any help.
Anne Goeden
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Poor house later called Gortonvoggie
Anne Goeden
Hello: I've found a reference on My Heritage to the deaths of Donald Currie who died just before 1851 in this poorhouse and his wife Catharine Sinclair who passed away shortly after. I and my cousins are matching via DNA to some of the descendants of Alexander Currie 1798-1866 (son of the above couple) I'm trying to figure out if my ggg grandmother Mary Currie 1794-1877 and her brother Donald Currie 1806-1877 were siblings of Alexander. We believe the mother of Mary and Donald was a Sinclair. If they weren't siblings they might have been first cousins. Anyway, would the death records for the poorhouse (c 1850/51) be in the parish records? or was there a separate register at the poorhouse? Also might there be any poorhouse admission records that might shed light on this couple? ( who could be my gggg grandparents) Thanks for any help. Anne Goeden
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Re: Cemetery Index Question
GREG FERGUSON
Sorry my mistake I should have looked closer at the geography of Argyll. Perhaps someone here might have knowledge of the Cemetery anyways and able to share. I was also wondering tonight if many in this Islay group have taken the Ancestry DNA test ? I'm specifically interested in those that might share DNA from the following surnames Ferguson, McArthur, Gillespie, Adair, and Whyte. Others would be Currie, Hyndman, Jamieson mostly from Bowmore, Kilmeny dating back to ancestors between 1760 -1830 time frame Ferguson Went to Paisley, Renfrewshire for 1841 Census then immigrated to Oro, Simcoe, Ontario, Canada about 1850.
On Saturday, October 24, 2020, 05:47:32 p.m. CDT, John Kemplen via groups.io <john.kemplen@...> wrote:
Hello Greg Could I enquire why you have posted this query to the Islay
list? Inverchaolain is on the Cowal peninsula of Argyll rather
than on the Isle of Islay, Argyll. I have links to both
Inverchaolain and Islay. My McKellar ancestors can be traced back
to Inverchaolain parish, but they moved to Bute and then around
1840 two of them and their wives moved to Islay. Although I can't
help you with your query, I would be interested to hear the answer
if you get one. I do not think it is very likely that any of my
ancestors would be buried at Inverchaolain Church because
Inverchaolain looks, to modern eyes, to be a very strange parish,
straggling all the way round Loch Striven with no direct roads
connecting the eastern and western parts. It made perfect sense
in the old days, because there weren't many roads anywhere and it
was often easier to get around by boat, so centring a parish on a
loch made good sense. However, Inverchaolain Church is on the
east shore of Loch Striven and I think there may have been another
church or churches serving the parts of the parish on the west
shore of Loch Striven and the north-east shore of the Kyles of
Bute, where I believe my ancestors lived. I am descended from one
of the two brothers who moved to Islay around 1840. My paternal
gggg-grandmother was a Margaret Brown from Inverchaolain, born
1763. Good luck with your quest. John Kemplen
On 24/10/2020 20:55, GREG FERGUSON via
groups.io wrote:
Is anyone aware of an index
for the Inverchaolain
Church, Churchyard
and how one might get a
copy?
Is there a website that has
pictures of headstones?
I'm interested in Whyte or
White , Ferguson
possibly Brown, Taylor and
Adair.
NS07NE 2.01 09096 75282 INVENTORY OF GRAVEYARD AND CEMETERY SITES IN SCOTLAND REFERENCE: N.B. This reference applies collectively to NS07NE 2.01 and NS07NE 2.023 Address: Inverchaolain Church Churchyard and Churchyard Extension Postcode: PA23 7UN Status: In current use for burials Size: Churchyard: 0.23 hectares, 0.56 acres; Churchyard Extension: 0.09 hectares, 0.23 acres TOIDs: Number of gravestones: 227 Earliest gravestone: 1732 Most recent gravestone: 2003 Description: Burial ground associated with a church Data
Sources: OS MasterMap checked 22 September 2005;
Graveyard Recording Form dated 6 March 2003
Thank you
Greg Ferguson
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