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Re: Russ McGilvray - McFadyens

Russ McGillivray
 

Roger,
Wow, a whole family tree that spans from 1795 to 1962!
We should all be so lucky.

Russ


Re: Russ McGilvray - McFadyens

Ken Harrison
 

Russ or Roger,

Would the Euphemia below be the d/o John (James) Morrison & Christian McFadyen, born 9 May, chr. 10 Aug 1834, Kilchoman?

The date of death of Angus is missing below.  Is it missing from the MI?

 

Ken Harrison

North Vancouver, Canada


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Subject: [Islay] Russ McGilvray - McFadyens

 

Hi Russ.

Thought this might be of interest to you :

Inscription – Bowmore graveyard

In loving memory of Donald McFadyen Postmaster Bowmore who died 26th March 1899 aged 66 years his wife Euphemia Morrison who died 24th Jan. 1885 aged 55 years his father Angus McFadyen who died 8th July aged 60 years his mother Ann McGilvray who died 19th March  1874 aged 80 years his daughter Ann who died 7th Nov. 1962 aged 66 years

 

Regards Roger

_._,_._,_


Re: McFadyens & McNabbs

Ken Harrison
 

Does anyone have data on the birth and parents of Anne McNABB, the wife of Angus McFADYEN.  She was apparently born c1825, possibly at Bowmore, and she and her husband both died in Ontario.

 

I have 3 possible matches for her as a child in Islay, but nothing concrete to prove a connection.

 

Ken Harrison

North Vancouver, Canada


Donald McGilvray of Ballachlavan ca 1833

Russ McGillivray
 

Roger,
Could I ask you a favour?
As I mentioned in my introductory email, in 1833 Donald is married to Ann McDuffie and has a son baptized at Kilmeny.
(I assume they were married because the child was not noted as illegitimate in the baptismal record.)
About 1836 Ann and her son leave for Canada with her parents and some siblings.
So what happened to Donald between 1833 and 1836?
He could have abandoned her, or he could have died of natural causes or in some accident.
Do you have in your records any information that might help, e.g. a newspaper clipping of a death?

Thanks,
Russ


Re: Russ McGilvray - McFadyens

Philip Hubsmith
 

Hi Roger,

OMG! If you dont mind and it is not too much trouble - immediate interest is the following: -

GG Grandparents:

Angus McFadyen 1834-8.7.1811? died age 60 and spouse Ann McGilvary 17.06.1794-19.03.1874 died aged 80: Married 18.01.1831

John Morrison B 1791 D 29.10.1857 aged 67 buried Kilarrow Churchyard and spouse Margaret McEwan B 1801

GGG Grandparents:

Parents of John Morrison: Hugh Morrison B 1775 and spouse Mary Morrison B 1786

Also: The previously mentioned Donald McFadyen, Postmaster and son of above Angus and Ann, B 1833 D 26.03.1899 aged 66 and buried at Bowmore graveyard

Getting into a bit of a fanckle with dates, my method of recording is not good!

Anyway, if you have any info or photos that would be great but do not spend more time on it that you can afford

Thank-you!

Phil Hubsmith, Erskine, Scotland

On 25/01/2020 13:14, Roger via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi Philip,
Its your luck day. My friend and I have read and recorded all Islay gravestones that are visible.  The last one we did was Bowmore which is still in use and therefore always changing
Let me know who you are looking for.  Also bear in mind I have images of all the stones too
Regards Roger


Re: Russ McGilvray - McFadyens

J LOCHRIDGE
 

Roger,
I wonder if you have Hugh Stevenson died October 1884 at Laggan on your list of gravestones?  When I visited Islay years ago I didn't realise that this cousin died in Islay
Any help is always appreciated
Johan

 
 


On Saturday, 25 January 2020, 13:14:26 GMT, Roger via Groups.Io <rogermcwee99@...> wrote:


Hi Philip,
Its your luck day. My friend and I have read and recorded all Islay gravestones that are visible.  The last one we did was Bowmore which is still in use and therefore always changing
Let me know who you are looking for.  Also bear in mind I have images of all the stones too
Regards Roger


Re: Russ McGilvray - McFadyens

Roger
 

Hi Philip,
Its your luck day. My friend and I have read and recorded all Islay gravestones that are visible.  The last one we did was Bowmore which is still in use and therefore always changing
Let me know who you are looking for.  Also bear in mind I have images of all the stones too
Regards Roger


Re: Russ McGilvray - McFadyens

Philip Hubsmith
 

Hi Roger,

Thank-you! some great information for my family tree - Angus and Ann are my GG Grandparents on my mothers side with Donald the Postmaster being the brother of my G Grandfather Hugh McFadyen. The new group has given me the push to get back researching!

Is there somewhere I can get more info for the graves at Bowmore (Bowmore new parish churchyard?) - grave list and location, Donald's does not seem to be listed in findagrave web site, I am contemplating a visit in spring or summer this year

I apologise if some questions are pretty 'basic', I am a bit of a novice at family research

Once again thank-you!

Phil Hubsmith, Erskine, Scotland
On 25/01/2020 09:44, Roger via Groups.Io wrote:

Hi Russ.
Thought this might be of interest to you :
Inscription – Bowmore graveyard
In loving memory of Donald McFadyen Postmaster Bowmore who died 26th March 1899 aged 66 years his wife Euphemia Morrison who died 24th Jan. 1885 aged 55 years his father Angus McFadyen who died 8th July aged 60 years his mother Ann McGilvray who died 19th March  1874 aged 80 years his daughter Ann who died 7th Nov. 1962 aged 66 years
 
Regards Roger


Russ McGilvray - McFadyens

Roger
 

Hi Russ.
Thought this might be of interest to you :
Inscription – Bowmore graveyard
In loving memory of Donald McFadyen Postmaster Bowmore who died 26th March 1899 aged 66 years his wife Euphemia Morrison who died 24th Jan. 1885 aged 55 years his father Angus McFadyen who died 8th July aged 60 years his mother Ann McGilvray who died 19th March  1874 aged 80 years his daughter Ann who died 7th Nov. 1962 aged 66 years
 
Regards Roger


Surnames McGilvray, McDuffie

Russ McGillivray
 

I am descended from Donald McGilvray, son of "Donald or Peter" McGilvray and Anne McDuffie, who was born in 1833. They were of Ballachlavan, called "the worst wadset in the countrie" by the Book of Islay but which has the distinction of belonging to the churchyard of Finlaggan. Anne was the daughter of Alexander McDuffie and Marion McLellan. The McDuffie family, including Anne and her son Donald McGilvray, emigrated to Oro Township in Ontario in 1836. Anne married Alexander McLean, formerly of Esknish, about 1840 and had 7 more children. 
I have my "best guesses" as to who Donald McGilvray's parents were (Malcolm McGilvray and Anne McCoag) and grandparents (Donald McGilvray and Ann Ferguson).
I have taken the autosomal DNA test (Gedmatch kit A657192) and the Y-700 test.
My closest Y matches are three McGillivrays (yeah!) but the common ancestors lived 400 years ago or more.
It would be wonderful to have another Islay McGilvray descendant take the Y-700 test.

Russ


Craock or Craast or Cruach?

Russ McGillivray
 

Phil,

The baptismal record says Craock in the OPR transcription in Steve Gilchrist’s website.

In my database I have the ‘corrected place’ as Craast. But I don’t know where the correction came from. It could have been from the IGI index of Islay McGilvray baptisms I photocopied many years ago.

But regardless, neither place appears anywhere else in all the baptisms on Islay

Nor do they  appear in Bob McQueen’s index of Islay places.

Looking at all the other places in Kilarrow that are spelled similarly, my guess is that it should be Cruach.

Other members who might have an idea should know the baptism in question was in 1792.

 

Russ

 

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Sent: Friday, January 24, 2020 5:01 PM
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Subject: Re: [Islay] Roll Call ?

 

Hi Russ,

Thank-you very much for that, it is great information - I looked at my family history some time ago and it is on my 'to do list' to get back into it

Where can I find information on the location of Craast, my internet search does not bring anything up?

Thank-you again!

Phil Hubsmith

On 24/01/2020 21:25, Russ McGillivray wrote:

Phil,

Years ago I put together a database of Islay McGilvrays.

I have that Ann who married Angus McFadyen (18 Jan 1831, Kilarrow) was baptized 19 Jun 1794, Kilarrow, daughter of Donald McGilvray and Florence Fletcher. When Ann was baptized her father was already deceased. He was a herdsman at Craast in 1791 when their daughter Catharine was baptized. Donald and Florence married 24 Feb 1788 at Kilarrow.

Ann’s death in 19 Mar 1874, Kilarrow, is in Ted Larsen’s database of Islay Death Registrations.

By the way, Hugh’s baptism was 1 Jun 1834 so the birthdate of 1835 is a bit late.

 

Russ McGillivray

 

 

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Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2020 10:53 AM
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Subject: Re: [Islay] Roll Call ?

 

Hi Diane/All,

Hello and best wishes to everyone!

My interest is with McFadyen, McGilvary, Morrison, McEwan - I believe mainly from Bowmore

My great grandparents are: -

Hugh McFadyen: B 1835 - D 1907 / Elizabeth Morrison - (photo attached): B 1841 - D 1922. Both born in Bowmore but moved to Dumbarton and then Clydebank. Hugh's brother Donald was the Post Master at 'old' Bowmore Post Office, now a private residence and to the left of The Lochside Hotel on Shore Steet - 2 x photos attached

Hugh and Elizabeth had 8 children?: John, Catherine, Euphemia, Flora (my grandmother), Elizabeth, Mary Anne, Margaret, Angus - oldest, B 1862 - D 1929

Hugh's parents were: Angus McFadyen and Anne McGilvary / Elizabeth's parents were: John Morrison: B 1791? - Dead at 1851 and Margaret (or Anne) McEwan: B 1801

Note: Many of the above dates are from 'scribbles' and need to be verified

Thank-you to everyone involved in getting this up and running - I will follow with interest

Phil Hubsmith, Erskine. Scotland

 


Re: Roll Call ?

Philip Hubsmith
 

Hi Russ,

Thank-you very much for that, it is great information - I looked at my family history some time ago and it is on my 'to do list' to get back into it

Where can I find information on the location of Craast, my internet search does not bring anything up?

Thank-you again!

Phil Hubsmith
On 24/01/2020 21:25, Russ McGillivray wrote:

Phil,

Years ago I put together a database of Islay McGilvrays.

I have that Ann who married Angus McFadyen (18 Jan 1831, Kilarrow) was baptized 19 Jun 1794, Kilarrow, daughter of Donald McGilvray and Florence Fletcher. When Ann was baptized her father was already deceased. He was a herdsman at Craast in 1791 when their daughter Catharine was baptized. Donald and Florence married 24 Feb 1788 at Kilarrow.

Ann’s death in 19 Mar 1874, Kilarrow, is in Ted Larsen’s database of Islay Death Registrations.

By the way, Hugh’s baptism was 1 Jun 1834 so the birthdate of 1835 is a bit late.

 

Russ McGillivray

 

 

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Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2020 10:53 AM
To: Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Islay] Roll Call ?

 

Hi Diane/All,

Hello and best wishes to everyone!

My interest is with McFadyen, McGilvary, Morrison, McEwan - I believe mainly from Bowmore

My great grandparents are: -

Hugh McFadyen: B 1835 - D 1907 / Elizabeth Morrison - (photo attached): B 1841 - D 1922. Both born in Bowmore but moved to Dumbarton and then Clydebank. Hugh's brother Donald was the Post Master at 'old' Bowmore Post Office, now a private residence and to the left of The Lochside Hotel on Shore Steet - 2 x photos attached

Hugh and Elizabeth had 8 children?: John, Catherine, Euphemia, Flora (my grandmother), Elizabeth, Mary Anne, Margaret, Angus - oldest, B 1862 - D 1929

Hugh's parents were: Angus McFadyen and Anne McGilvary / Elizabeth's parents were: John Morrison: B 1791? - Dead at 1851 and Margaret (or Anne) McEwan: B 1801

Note: Many of the above dates are from 'scribbles' and need to be verified

Thank-you to everyone involved in getting this up and running - I will follow with interest

Phil Hubsmith, Erskine. Scotland


Re: Roll Call ?

Russ McGillivray
 

Phil,

Years ago I put together a database of Islay McGilvrays.

I have that Ann who married Angus McFadyen (18 Jan 1831, Kilarrow) was baptized 19 Jun 1794, Kilarrow, daughter of Donald McGilvray and Florence Fletcher. When Ann was baptized her father was already deceased. He was a herdsman at Craast in 1791 when their daughter Catharine was baptized. Donald and Florence married 24 Feb 1788 at Kilarrow.

Ann’s death in 19 Mar 1874, Kilarrow, is in Ted Larsen’s database of Islay Death Registrations.

By the way, Hugh’s baptism was 1 Jun 1834 so the birthdate of 1835 is a bit late.

 

Russ McGillivray

 

 

From: Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io [mailto:Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io] On Behalf Of Philip Hubsmith via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2020 10:53 AM
To: Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Islay] Roll Call ?

 

Hi Diane/All,

Hello and best wishes to everyone!

My interest is with McFadyen, McGilvary, Morrison, McEwan - I believe mainly from Bowmore

My great grandparents are: -

Hugh McFadyen: B 1835 - D 1907 / Elizabeth Morrison - (photo attached): B 1841 - D 1922. Both born in Bowmore but moved to Dumbarton and then Clydebank. Hugh's brother Donald was the Post Master at 'old' Bowmore Post Office, now a private residence and to the left of The Lochside Hotel on Shore Steet - 2 x photos attached

Hugh and Elizabeth had 8 children?: John, Catherine, Euphemia, Flora (my grandmother), Elizabeth, Mary Anne, Margaret, Angus - oldest, B 1862 - D 1929

Hugh's parents were: Angus McFadyen and Anne McGilvary / Elizabeth's parents were: John Morrison: B 1791? - Dead at 1851 and Margaret (or Anne) McEwan: B 1801

Note: Many of the above dates are from 'scribbles' and need to be verified

Thank-you to everyone involved in getting this up and running - I will follow with interest

Phil Hubsmith, Erskine. Scotland


Re: Family members

Rebecca Campbell
 

Hi John , 

My 3G Grandmother was Elizabeth Graham who married William Campbell in 1801 they lived at both Taycarmagan and Ballivicar. Ultimately Elizabeth and some of their children would emigrate to Canada in the 1840s. I believe that one of William and Elizabeth's daughters married a McArthur as there is an Ann McArthur in the 1841 census with the family and she is treated comparable to the known grandchild that is there rather than the hired help.  Very likely that we are connected. 

Rebecca


Re: Family members - McArthur

John Kemplen
 

Hi Merle

The tendency to concentrate on male lines because those give continuity of surname means that I know very little about my McArthurs, as Mary McArthur was my mother's mother's mother.  Mary was born in Kilchiaran in 1850 to parents Alexander McArthur (agricultural labourer) and Margaret McLellan.  She married John Campbell from Ballachlaven, Kilmeny in 1876 and died at Ayen in 1935.  Ayen is between Ballygrant and Bridgend, near Ballimartin.

On 24/01/2020 12:27, Merle Duncan wrote:

Hi John,

Who were your McArthurs and where were they from?

Merle Duncan

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Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2020 9:24 PM
To: Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io
Subject: [Islay] Family members

 

Hi Everyone, I’m from Australia and interested in the McArthur and Graham family lines. Members lived in/around, Balevicar, Ballineal, Kildalton, Bowmore, Killarrow.(unsure of these spellings as I have seen a variety of spelling ways). Especially interested in these families prior to 1830. Cheers.



Re: Family members

Merle Duncan
 

Hi John,

Who were your McArthurs and where were they from?

Merle Duncan

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Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2020 9:24 PM
To: Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io
Subject: [Islay] Family members

 

Hi Everyone, I’m from Australia and interested in the McArthur and Graham family lines. Members lived in/around, Balevicar, Ballineal, Kildalton, Bowmore, Killarrow.(unsure of these spellings as I have seen a variety of spelling ways). Especially interested in these families prior to 1830. Cheers.


Family members

John Murfett
 

Hi Everyone, I’m from Australia and interested in the McArthur and Graham family lines. Members lived in/around, Balevicar, Ballineal, Kildalton, Bowmore, Killarrow.(unsure of these spellings as I have seen a variety of spelling ways). Especially interested in these families prior to 1830. Cheers.


Re: Roll Call ?

mearnsmg@btinternet.com
 

Hi Diane,


My interests:


McAulay, McPhaiden, Robertson & McKechnie.


My GreatGrandmother was Jane McAulay born Portnahaven 26/11/1828, died Greenock 21/10/1891.

Jane's parents were Alexander born Islay, 1782?, died Garnkirk Lanarkshire 30/11/1860 & Jane MacPhaiden born Ardmore Argyll 1786? died Garnkirk 26/8/1871.

Alexander's parents were Gilbert McAulay and Janet Robertson.

Jane MacPhaiden's parents were Duncan MacPhaiden and Marggret McKechnie, both dead before Jane.


My GreatGrandmother had 3 brothers (Duncan1821/1887, Donald 1823/1849, Gilbert 1824/1912) and 1 sister Janet (1826/1849). The family had moved to Garnkirk by the time of the 1841 census, where Donald, Gilbert and Janet, died. Duncan died in Greenock.


MyGGFather, Alexander, had 1 sister Jean (b1789?/d 1869 in Portnahaven) who married a Hugh Campbell.


I have not been able to connent my McAulays with any other McAulays of Islay.


Regards

Mick Mearns





------ Original Message ------
From: "Diane Rogers" <diane_rogers@...>
To: Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, 22 Jan, 2020 At 06:41
Subject: [Islay] Roll Call ?


Hi, everyone.

There are now 177 of us here. Would you like to start a roll call? Just the Islay people's names and places you are interested in.

I am thinking we can also build up a database for the people we are researching.

We can post images too - however - there is an overall size limit for images on free lists here. So be cautious and resize them, please. I would love to see photos of those we know came from Islay, if we have them.

Diane


Brown, Hunter,

Heather Schenck
 


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GREG FERGUSON
 

Hello

I'm interested in surnames of Ferguson, Adair, McArthur, Gillespie, with connection to Currie and McLarty.  They came from Isle of Islay - Bowmore, Kilchoman, Killarow as well apparently Gartnatra, Argyll.

Greg - Robert - Peter - Donald - Duncan Ferguson -  all confirmed ---- ???? 4th great grand parent


Duncan A Ferguson 1799 Bowmore - 1875 Oro, Simcoe, Ontario married Mary J Adair 1801 Gartnatra, Argyll  - 1875 Oro, Simcoe Ontario.

Believe Duncan's parents maybe Archibald Ferguson 1775 -1851 and wife Mary Whyte abt 1774
siblings Catherine Ferguson 1795 - 1865 married a John Ferguson 1805 - 1882
             Mary Ferguson abt 1820 -1869 married Duncan McCalman 

Believe Mary Adair parents were William Adair and Marion McAlpine


Duncan's daughter Mary married a Currie in Oro and died there.


Peter McArthur abt 1812 Kilchoman - 1895 Grassmere, Manitoba, Canada (lived in Oro, Simcoe, Ontario until 1870) married Catherine Gillespie 1826 Bowmore - 1910 Winnipeg, Manitoba.

Believe Peter's parents are John Alexander McArthur 1785 Bowmore - bef 1836 Scotland married Mary Catherine Hyndman 1787 Bowmore - 1863 Oro, Simcoe , Ontario, Canada
sibling Janet McArthur married a McLarty lived and passed away in Oro, Simcoe, Ontario. 

Believe Catherine Gillespie's parents were Alexander Gillespie 1791 Bowmore - 1883 Collingwood, Simcoe, Ontario, Canada and mother Janet Jamieson abt 1789 - bef 1846.

I've taken the DNA test at Ancestry and at Familytree (67 markers) results from DNA has led to some of these connections (Currie, McLarty). Trying to solve and connect to 4th great grand parents to determine more family connections. 

Thanks.