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Genealogy info on Dallas descendants needed

doris sanders
 

William and Margaret Baxter Dallas lived and died (he 1841, she 1843) at Grastle (other spellings also noted), the Oa, Isle of Islay. Their children Alexader born 1789  died 1858 Greene Co., AL, USA; Jannet or Jessy/Jessie married John McQuilkan  and by 1841 her children are living with others on the Oa; Peter Dallas born 1794 lived in Glasgow and died 1872 but interred Kilnaughton Cem, the Oa;
Elizabeth married Hugh Camerson died 1881 Ontario, Canada; William married Rachel McTaggert and believed died in Greene Co., AL, USA after 1850; Isobel married Duncan McKerrell and died Port Ellen after 1841, her family removed to Mobile, AL, USA; nothing has been found for Dougal born 1807 or Margaret born 1811 so presumed died young. 
My request- does anyone have information on any of the children of Jannet Dallas McQuilken?
Margaret born 16 Feb 1881, married Duncan McCuay/McCuaig; Mary born 7 Feb 1820, Catherine "Cetty" born 15 Nov 1822; Alex born 23 Aug 1824; William born 4 Oct 1826; Elizabeth born 24 Apr 1829; Niel born 23 Sep 1832
Doris Barfield Sanders, 3rd granddaughter of Alexander Dallas


Re: Orkney connection?

Glynn Currie
 

Good evening.

I am not sure if this is relevant, but will post it here in case someone finds it interesting.

 

It is from an article written by Dr. David H.Caldwell entitled “The Ilich- People of Scotland”.

 

he MacEacherns

There is a tradition that the MacEacherns of Islay were smiths to the Lords of the Isles. There is a medieval grave-slab at Finlaggan that may commemorate a member of this family. It is uninscribed, but has a fine representation of an anvil. Islay sword hilts, made by these smiths, are famous in Gaelic tradition, though I have yet to establish what they were like. There are no surviving medieval documents with the names of MacEachern smiths. Indeed the only smith on Islay surnamed MacEachern that can be traced is John McEachern in Killarow, given a tack in the late eighteenth century [29].

   An early eighteenth-century history of the Campbells of Craignish says that this family of hereditary smiths were at that time commonly called Clan Gowan (from Gaelic gobhainn, a smith or blacksmith), and incidentally, says there was another branch of them long established in Morvern, in mainland Argyll [30]. It is possible that the Malcolm McGown who appears as the tenant of Tighcargaman in the Parish of Kildalton in 1541 is one of these smiths. Donald MacGuin of Esknish in the Parish of Killarow was one of the men of Islay who petitioned the Privy Council about 1600 in support of Angus MacDonald of Dunyvaig and his son James[31]. Tighcargaman and Esknish still had MacGowan tenants in 1631, and there were others elsewhere on the island at Kilbride (Kildalton P.), Tiervaagain and Ballighillan (both Killarow P.). Gillycreist Gow Smyth, tenant of Carnbeg (Killarow P.), might be a practising smith, and possibly of the same kindred. It is likely that many Islay folk of the eighteenth and nineteenth century, surnamed Smith, are descendants of the MacEacherns and MacGowans.

   There is another Islay family of interest in this context, the MacNocards. Their name is derived from the Gaelic for the son of the ceard, meaning a smith or metalworker, often with the sense of someone who worked in copper and silver, rather than iron. There was a Gilcrist McNarkerde in Braid (Kilchoman P.) in 1541 and several tenants with this surname occur in later rentals on various Islay lands, including Gearach in the Parish of Kilchoman (Donald McNokard in 1733 and 1741). It is believed that at a later date MacNokards in Argyll generally adopted the name Sinclair [32], and Sinclairs do indeed turn up in Islay rentals of the eighteenth century.

   The lands of Braid and Gearach are adjacent to each other, and the former possibly included, or was certainly near, Caonis Gall, said to have been the home of the MacEachern smiths [33]. There is also a small valley called the Gleann na Ceardaich (glen of the smiddy) less than a mile to the north. It is possible that the MacNokards were also descended from the MacEachern smiths of the Lords of the Isles. It is worth pointing out that the tenants of Gearach in 1733 included Donald McNokard, Archibald McKecheran and Donald Smith, perhaps all distantly related [34].

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Sue Visser
Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2021 9:05 PM
To: Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Islay] Orkney connection?

 

Hi Toni

 

Are you talking of John Sinclair who married Catherine McCuaig 7 Sept 1777 in Kilarrow (but NOTP)?  If so, I don’t have John’s history prior to the marriage.  Yes, I too have 4 brothers (and 2 sisters plus 2 other possible sisters). 

 

I’ve been following this thread of Orkney→Islay connections with interest as it’s new to me.

 

Was Orkney involved in Culloden?  Did they have to flee as many others did, perhaps taking new names?  Perhaps someone with greater historical knowledge might be able to shed some light on these possibilities.

 

It’s good news to see some of the ‘charter’ SCT-ISLAY members back in the posting fray

 

Sue

 

 

 

From: tsinclair@...

Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2021 9:07 PM

To: Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io

Subject: Re: [Islay] Orkney connection?

 

Thanks Johan.  I think you've also corresponded a bit with this gentleman, so I won't go into the details.  However, he is very certain that his Mullindry Sinclairs were definitely not tenant farmers.  However, "The Daybook of Daniel Campbell of Shawfield,",compiled by Freda Ramsay, and "The Book of Islay" edited by Gregory Smith indicate that Mullindry was always a Campbell-owned farm.

Sue V.  - To my knowledge, there were 4 Sinclair brothers.  One of them - John, married a Catherine McCuaig of Kildalton parish (I think you had her in some of your family research).  Did you ever come across any information to indicate that Catherine married into a Sinclair family with Orkney origins?
Toni

 


Re: Orkney connection?

Sue Visser
 

Hi Toni
 
Are you talking of John Sinclair who married Catherine McCuaig 7 Sept 1777 in Kilarrow (but NOTP)?  If so, I don’t have John’s history prior to the marriage.  Yes, I too have 4 brothers (and 2 sisters plus 2 other possible sisters). 
 
I’ve been following this thread of Orkney→Islay connections with interest as it’s new to me.
 
Was Orkney involved in Culloden?  Did they have to flee as many others did, perhaps taking new names?  Perhaps someone with greater historical knowledge might be able to shed some light on these possibilities.
 
It’s good news to see some of the ‘charter’ SCT-ISLAY members back in the posting fray Winking smile
 
Sue
 
 
 

From: tsinclair@...
Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2021 9:07 PM
To: Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Islay] Orkney connection?
 
Thanks Johan.  I think you've also corresponded a bit with this gentleman, so I won't go into the details.  However, he is very certain that his Mullindry Sinclairs were definitely not tenant farmers.  However, "The Daybook of Daniel Campbell of Shawfield,",compiled by Freda Ramsay, and "The Book of Islay" edited by Gregory Smith indicate that Mullindry was always a Campbell-owned farm.

Sue V.  - To my knowledge, there were 4 Sinclair brothers.  One of them - John, married a Catherine McCuaig of Kildalton parish (I think you had her in some of your family research).  Did you ever come across any information to indicate that Catherine married into a Sinclair family with Orkney origins?
Toni


Re: Orkney connection?

DixieAC <dixieac@...>
 

Can be hard to dislodge “known” family history ;-)


On May 29, 2021, at 6:07 PM, tsinclair@... wrote:

Thanks Johan.  I think you've also corresponded a bit with this gentleman, so I won't go into the details.  However, he is very certain that his Mullindry Sinclairs were definitely not tenant farmers.  However, "The Daybook of Daniel Campbell of Shawfield,",compiled by Freda Ramsay, and "The Book of Islay" edited by Gregory Smith indicate that Mullindry was always a Campbell-owned farm.

Sue V.  - To my knowledge, there were 4 Sinclair brothers.  One of them - John, married a Catherine McCuaig of Kildalton parish (I think you had her in some of your family research).  Did you ever come across any information to indicate that Catherine married into a Sinclair family with Orkney origins?
Toni


Re: Orkney connection?

tsinclair@...
 

Thanks Johan.  I think you've also corresponded a bit with this gentleman, so I won't go into the details.  However, he is very certain that his Mullindry Sinclairs were definitely not tenant farmers.  However, "The Daybook of Daniel Campbell of Shawfield,",compiled by Freda Ramsay, and "The Book of Islay" edited by Gregory Smith indicate that Mullindry was always a Campbell-owned farm.

Sue V.  - To my knowledge, there were 4 Sinclair brothers.  One of them - John, married a Catherine McCuaig of Kildalton parish (I think you had her in some of your family research).  Did you ever come across any information to indicate that Catherine married into a Sinclair family with Orkney origins?
Toni


Re: Orkney connection?

Ken Harrison
 

Toni,
I have family history in both Islay and Orkney, but on separate lines.  On both lines, there are peripheral connections to Sinclairs.
There are lots of Sinclairs or St. Clairs in Orkney and migration between the two islands is quite logical, but I have not noticed any tales of family migration as indicated in your message.

Ken Harrison

On May 27, 2021, at 4:48 AM, tsinclair@... wrote:

Hello all,
I've recently been contacted by someone with a Mullindry Sinclair connection.  He is quite sure his Sinclair ancestor and his brother, the sons of a "Magnus Sinclair" from Orkney came to Islay and lived on Mullindry for two generations (up to the early 1820s), then emigrated to Canada.  Well, I've gone through every book and paper I've accumulated on the Islay Sinclairs, and I cannot find any evidence of this.  You would think that a son would at least name one of his sons "Magnus", but I've never found that name for any Islay Sinclair.
Does anyone on this Islay list have any family history going back to the Orkneys?
Toni
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Re: Orkney connection?

J LOCHRIDGE
 

Toni, Hello, and thank you for your investigations. Even after all these years, I am still an amateur, and I have no links, that I know of to Orkney. My only observation is that I do share DNA with some folks who have Sinclair ancestors in north of Scotland and the islands in the north. I have not kept any note of this as I have no idea if that is the link or not.

Best wishes from a sunny Clyde coast

Johan




------ Original Message ------
From: tsinclair@...
To: Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, 27 May, 21 At 12:48
Subject: [Islay] Orkney connection?

Hello all,
I've recently been contacted by someone with a Mullindry Sinclair connection. He is quite sure his Sinclair ancestor and his brother, the sons of a "Magnus Sinclair" from Orkney came to Islay and lived on Mullindry for two generations (up to the early 1820s), then emigrated to Canada. Well, I've gone through every book and paper I've accumulated on the Islay Sinclairs, and I cannot find any evidence of this. You would think that a son would at least name one of his sons "Magnus", but I've never found that name for any Islay Sinclair.
Does anyone on this Islay list have any family history going back to the Orkneys?
Toni



Orkney connection?

tsinclair@...
 

Hello all,
I've recently been contacted by someone with a Mullindry Sinclair connection.  He is quite sure his Sinclair ancestor and his brother, the sons of a "Magnus Sinclair" from Orkney came to Islay and lived on Mullindry for two generations (up to the early 1820s), then emigrated to Canada.  Well, I've gone through every book and paper I've accumulated on the Islay Sinclairs, and I cannot find any evidence of this.  You would think that a son would at least name one of his sons "Magnus", but I've never found that name for any Islay Sinclair.
Does anyone on this Islay list have any family history going back to the Orkneys?
Toni


Re: Request to join Old Islay

 

I agree wholeheartedly with Sue that the Facebook Islay groups are well worth the effort.  She also gives wise advice. [As ever.]

Facebook does have security issues, but it's easy to set up a dummy Gmail account and keep that and your Facebook membership separate from your "real" life.

regards Seymour


Re: Request to join Old Islay

Sharee Hughes
 

I haveconcerns about groups who require you to be on favevook


On Wed, May 26, 2021, 1:02 PM Sue Visser <genealgal2@...> wrote:
Hi Morag and any others who are interested in Old Islay but have concerns.
 
Like you want to do Morag, I have my Facebook account very tightly secure.
 
BEFORE joining, make sure you have good general internet security.  This is to keep you safe with all your online work.  Check out other ways to help keep you secure.  I use ‘startpage’ for ALL my internet searching.  I have an ad blocker, Ghostery.  I use F. B. Purity for Facebook (check it out).  There are others out there – these are just what I use.
 
To answer your questions:
 
I haven’t answered any personal questions other than ‘married’ when I signed on to FB.  I do however have a photo – right now it’s a card one of my grandchildren made saying “I miss you” (re COVID).  For significant days, like Remembrance Day, I change my photo to something appropriate.
 
After you sign up and log on to your Facebook account, in the upper right corner, you’ll see an arrow down:
 
Go to Settings. 
 
Under Security and login you’ll find your two-factor authentication.  There are a couple of other security things you might want to check out there.
 
Under Privacy:  check out each item.  Most questions you can answer with “Only Me” but a couple you need to have differently if you want to interact with others on Old Islay and Islay from 2000.  Both are private groups and what is shared there is not open to the public:
Who can see your future posts:  “Friends”
Who can send your friend requests:  (you only have 2 choices here – I have ‘friends of friends’.
Do you want search engines outside of FB to link to your profile: “No”
How you get message requests: in order, Chats, message requests, message requests (I was told these answers help to connect with others in the private groups.
 
You can go through the other items under settings and it’s mostly common sense.
 
Also, - each Friend you have has friends.  When your Friends connect with your posts, it can be seen by their friends!  I deliberately keep my friend list VERY small, all family.  Even my best friend in life is not my FB friend!  If someone has 100s of friends, then they are not included on my FB Friend list.  I have received Friend requests of people on Old Islay or Islay from 2000.  You can “ignore” requests but if it’s someone I’ve messaged with, I politely tell them I keep my Friends list solely for close family.  You  can message back and forth with Members of Old Islay or Islay from 2000 (you’ll find a message button with each member’s name) and that too is not open to the public.  When I’ve connected with someone and it’s been apparent that we can help one another with shared research, then we’ve exchanged email addresses and have done it privately.  HOWEVER having said that, sharing on Old Islay is private and often a photo triggers many responses and memories shared – that’ what makes Old Islay so special.
 
Nine years ago, like you, I was quitting Facebook.  I’d contacted everyone on my Friend list and asked them continue by email only.  Then Old Islay came to my attention – and I tentatively joined, jumped in whole heartedly and have never regretted it.  “Islay from the year 2000 to the present” usually starts my day – the photography and videos posted by Ileachs are amazingly beautiful.
 
Once you have become a member of Old Islay, under the top heading photo, you’ll see links:  About, Discussion, Announcements ... and all the way over to “More”.  Check out “More” – media and files.  Check out “members’ – you’ll be surprised how many members you recognize.  “Discussion” are the daily posts.
 
Always log off when leaving FB. It’s under that arrow down I mentioned at the very beginning.  It’s like logging off your online bank account – it closes the door.
 
Morag – it might sound daunting but once you start, you’ll find it makes sense.  I hope you join.  The only problem I have with Old Islay and Islay from 2000 is that I end up reading and watching so much that I lose track of time.  During COVID and months of lock down, that has been a blessing!
 
Regards from Ontario,
Sue Visser


Re: Request to join Old Islay

Sue Visser
 

Hi Morag and any others who are interested in Old Islay but have concerns.
 
Like you want to do Morag, I have my Facebook account very tightly secure.
 
BEFORE joining, make sure you have good general internet security.  This is to keep you safe with all your online work.  Check out other ways to help keep you secure.  I use ‘startpage’ for ALL my internet searching.  I have an ad blocker, Ghostery.  I use F. B. Purity for Facebook (check it out).  There are others out there – these are just what I use.
 
To answer your questions:
 
I haven’t answered any personal questions other than ‘married’ when I signed on to FB.  I do however have a photo – right now it’s a card one of my grandchildren made saying “I miss you” (re COVID).  For significant days, like Remembrance Day, I change my photo to something appropriate.
 
After you sign up and log on to your Facebook account, in the upper right corner, you’ll see an arrow down:
 
Go to Settings. 
 
Under Security and login you’ll find your two-factor authentication.  There are a couple of other security things you might want to check out there.
 
Under Privacy:  check out each item.  Most questions you can answer with “Only Me” but a couple you need to have differently if you want to interact with others on Old Islay and Islay from 2000.  Both are private groups and what is shared there is not open to the public:
Who can see your future posts:  “Friends”
Who can send your friend requests:  (you only have 2 choices here – I have ‘friends of friends’.
Do you want search engines outside of FB to link to your profile: “No”
How you get message requests: in order, Chats, message requests, message requests (I was told these answers help to connect with others in the private groups.
 
You can go through the other items under settings and it’s mostly common sense.
 
Also, - each Friend you have has friends.  When your Friends connect with your posts, it can be seen by their friends!  I deliberately keep my friend list VERY small, all family.  Even my best friend in life is not my FB friend!  If someone has 100s of friends, then they are not included on my FB Friend list.  I have received Friend requests of people on Old Islay or Islay from 2000.  You can “ignore” requests but if it’s someone I’ve messaged with, I politely tell them I keep my Friends list solely for close family.  You  can message back and forth with Members of Old Islay or Islay from 2000 (you’ll find a message button with each member’s name) and that too is not open to the public.  When I’ve connected with someone and it’s been apparent that we can help one another with shared research, then we’ve exchanged email addresses and have done it privately.  HOWEVER having said that, sharing on Old Islay is private and often a photo triggers many responses and memories shared – that’ what makes Old Islay so special.
 
Nine years ago, like you, I was quitting Facebook.  I’d contacted everyone on my Friend list and asked them continue by email only.  Then Old Islay came to my attention – and I tentatively joined, jumped in whole heartedly and have never regretted it.  “Islay from the year 2000 to the present” usually starts my day – the photography and videos posted by Ileachs are amazingly beautiful.
 
Once you have become a member of Old Islay, under the top heading photo, you’ll see links:  About, Discussion, Announcements ... and all the way over to “More”.  Check out “More” – media and files.  Check out “members’ – you’ll be surprised how many members you recognize.  “Discussion” are the daily posts.
 
Always log off when leaving FB. It’s under that arrow down I mentioned at the very beginning.  It’s like logging off your online bank account – it closes the door.
 
Morag – it might sound daunting but once you start, you’ll find it makes sense.  I hope you join.  The only problem I have with Old Islay and Islay from 2000 is that I end up reading and watching so much that I lose track of time.  During COVID and months of lock down, that has been a blessing!
 
Regards from Ontario,
Sue Visser


Re: Request to join Old Islay

Morag Fowler
 

Hi Flora,

You have a good memory. Yes, I have had my DNA tested, but came up with little Islay connection. I must look up that Neil Orr. I have a suspicion that all the Neil Orrs are connected.

Regards,
Morag


On 25 May 2021, at 23:21, Jennifer Durocher <jen5525@...> wrote:

I requested to join the Old Islay group but have not received a message so far...

On Tuesday, May 25, 2021, 02:07:20 PM EDT, Flora MacAffer <fody1950@...> wrote:


Hi Morag

I only joined Facebook for Old Islay and  don’t have any personal information such as date of birth etc on my profile.

Return of the Children seems so long ago!  If I remember correctly you are connected to the Orr family?  One of my relatives, Margaret Campbell, married Neil Orr and lived at Arivoulchalum in the Lotts.  Have you had your DNA tested?

Regards
Flora
> On 25 May 2021, at 18:50, Morag Fowler via groups.io <morag.fowler=googlemail.com@groups.io> wrote:
>
> Hi Flora,
>
> Thanks for your speedy reply. I’ll try to find out how safe Facebook is nowadays. Apart from the friends’ trouble with it, I had to go to the police over a man getting my contact details - though not through Facebook, to be fair - and sending me threatening messages, and I’m still a bit jumpy about how I’m contactable..
>
> Recently I had a look through the file I still have from the Return of the Children week. It was so well organised and enjoyable.
>
> Regards,
> Morag
>> On 25 May 2021, at 17:33, Flora MacAffer <fody1950@...> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Morag
>> I’m afraid you need a Facebook account to be able  to join Old Islay and also our other page “Islay from the year 2000 to the present....”.
>> Regards
>> Flora
>>>> On 25 May 2021, at 17:27, Morag Fowler via groups.io <morag.fowler=googlemail.com@groups.io> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Flora,
>>>
>>> Can you join the Facebook Old Islay page without having a Facebook account? If so, could you tell me how, please? I am wary of Facebook itself as friends were vilified on it without redress. However, I would like to join in the group if safe.
>>>
>>> Best wishes,
>>> Morag M Fowler
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Re: Request to join Old Islay

Morag Fowler
 

Hi Allan,

Thanks for addressing the safety of Facebook. I’ll do as you say, but I hope you don’t mind if I ask you some questions.   How do I make sure all my details are for my eyes only?  How do I contact the Admins? And how do I use 2 factor identification?

I had a Facebook account years ago, but cancelled it, only to find it was still live, and had to cancel again.

Best wishes,
Morag


On 25 May 2021, at 23:21, Jennifer Durocher <jen5525@...> wrote:

I requested to join the Old Islay group but have not received a message so far...

On Tuesday, May 25, 2021, 02:07:20 PM EDT, Flora MacAffer <fody1950@...> wrote:


Hi Morag

I only joined Facebook for Old Islay and  don’t have any personal information such as date of birth etc on my profile.

Return of the Children seems so long ago!  If I remember correctly you are connected to the Orr family?  One of my relatives, Margaret Campbell, married Neil Orr and lived at Arivoulchalum in the Lotts.  Have you had your DNA tested?

Regards
Flora
> On 25 May 2021, at 18:50, Morag Fowler via groups.io <morag.fowler=googlemail.com@groups.io> wrote:
>
> Hi Flora,
>
> Thanks for your speedy reply. I’ll try to find out how safe Facebook is nowadays. Apart from the friends’ trouble with it, I had to go to the police over a man getting my contact details - though not through Facebook, to be fair - and sending me threatening messages, and I’m still a bit jumpy about how I’m contactable..
>
> Recently I had a look through the file I still have from the Return of the Children week. It was so well organised and enjoyable.
>
> Regards,
> Morag
>> On 25 May 2021, at 17:33, Flora MacAffer <fody1950@...> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Morag
>> I’m afraid you need a Facebook account to be able  to join Old Islay and also our other page “Islay from the year 2000 to the present....”.
>> Regards
>> Flora
>>>> On 25 May 2021, at 17:27, Morag Fowler via groups.io <morag.fowler=googlemail.com@groups.io> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Flora,
>>>
>>> Can you join the Facebook Old Islay page without having a Facebook account? If so, could you tell me how, please? I am wary of Facebook itself as friends were vilified on it without redress. However, I would like to join in the group if safe.
>>>
>>> Best wishes,
>>> Morag M Fowler
>>>
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Re: Request to join Old Islay

 

Hi Flora...don't see a message on facebook messenger, but just saw the email and responded.

On Tuesday, May 25, 2021, 06:26:10 PM EDT, Flora MacAffer <fody1950@...> wrote:


Jennifer, I messaged you on Monday and also emailed you after finding your address on this group. 


On 25 May 2021, at 23:21, Jennifer Durocher <jen5525@...> wrote:


I requested to join the Old Islay group but have not received a message so far...

On Tuesday, May 25, 2021, 02:07:20 PM EDT, Flora MacAffer <fody1950@...> wrote:


Hi Morag

I only joined Facebook for Old Islay and  don’t have any personal information such as date of birth etc on my profile.

Return of the Children seems so long ago!  If I remember correctly you are connected to the Orr family?  One of my relatives, Margaret Campbell, married Neil Orr and lived at Arivoulchalum in the Lotts.  Have you had your DNA tested?

Regards
Flora
> On 25 May 2021, at 18:50, Morag Fowler via groups.io <morag.fowler=googlemail.com@groups.io> wrote:
>
> Hi Flora,
>
> Thanks for your speedy reply. I’ll try to find out how safe Facebook is nowadays. Apart from the friends’ trouble with it, I had to go to the police over a man getting my contact details - though not through Facebook, to be fair - and sending me threatening messages, and I’m still a bit jumpy about how I’m contactable..
>
> Recently I had a look through the file I still have from the Return of the Children week. It was so well organised and enjoyable.
>
> Regards,
> Morag
>> On 25 May 2021, at 17:33, Flora MacAffer <fody1950@...> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Morag
>> I’m afraid you need a Facebook account to be able  to join Old Islay and also our other page “Islay from the year 2000 to the present....”.
>> Regards
>> Flora
>>>> On 25 May 2021, at 17:27, Morag Fowler via groups.io <morag.fowler=googlemail.com@groups.io> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Flora,
>>>
>>> Can you join the Facebook Old Islay page without having a Facebook account? If so, could you tell me how, please? I am wary of Facebook itself as friends were vilified on it without redress. However, I would like to join in the group if safe.
>>>
>>> Best wishes,
>>> Morag M Fowler
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Re: Request to join Old Islay

Flora MacAffer
 

Jennifer, I messaged you on Monday and also emailed you after finding your address on this group. 


On 25 May 2021, at 23:21, Jennifer Durocher <jen5525@...> wrote:


I requested to join the Old Islay group but have not received a message so far...

On Tuesday, May 25, 2021, 02:07:20 PM EDT, Flora MacAffer <fody1950@...> wrote:


Hi Morag

I only joined Facebook for Old Islay and  don’t have any personal information such as date of birth etc on my profile.

Return of the Children seems so long ago!  If I remember correctly you are connected to the Orr family?  One of my relatives, Margaret Campbell, married Neil Orr and lived at Arivoulchalum in the Lotts.  Have you had your DNA tested?

Regards
Flora
> On 25 May 2021, at 18:50, Morag Fowler via groups.io <morag.fowler=googlemail.com@groups.io> wrote:
>
> Hi Flora,
>
> Thanks for your speedy reply. I’ll try to find out how safe Facebook is nowadays. Apart from the friends’ trouble with it, I had to go to the police over a man getting my contact details - though not through Facebook, to be fair - and sending me threatening messages, and I’m still a bit jumpy about how I’m contactable..
>
> Recently I had a look through the file I still have from the Return of the Children week. It was so well organised and enjoyable.
>
> Regards,
> Morag
>> On 25 May 2021, at 17:33, Flora MacAffer <fody1950@...> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Morag
>> I’m afraid you need a Facebook account to be able  to join Old Islay and also our other page “Islay from the year 2000 to the present....”.
>> Regards
>> Flora
>>>> On 25 May 2021, at 17:27, Morag Fowler via groups.io <morag.fowler=googlemail.com@groups.io> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Flora,
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>>> Can you join the Facebook Old Islay page without having a Facebook account? If so, could you tell me how, please? I am wary of Facebook itself as friends were vilified on it without redress. However, I would like to join in the group if safe.
>>>
>>> Best wishes,
>>> Morag M Fowler
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Re: Request to join Old Islay

 

I requested to join the Old Islay group but have not received a message so far...

On Tuesday, May 25, 2021, 02:07:20 PM EDT, Flora MacAffer <fody1950@...> wrote:


Hi Morag

I only joined Facebook for Old Islay and  don’t have any personal information such as date of birth etc on my profile.

Return of the Children seems so long ago!  If I remember correctly you are connected to the Orr family?  One of my relatives, Margaret Campbell, married Neil Orr and lived at Arivoulchalum in the Lotts.  Have you had your DNA tested?

Regards
Flora
> On 25 May 2021, at 18:50, Morag Fowler via groups.io <morag.fowler=googlemail.com@groups.io> wrote:
>
> Hi Flora,
>
> Thanks for your speedy reply. I’ll try to find out how safe Facebook is nowadays. Apart from the friends’ trouble with it, I had to go to the police over a man getting my contact details - though not through Facebook, to be fair - and sending me threatening messages, and I’m still a bit jumpy about how I’m contactable..
>
> Recently I had a look through the file I still have from the Return of the Children week. It was so well organised and enjoyable.
>
> Regards,
> Morag
>> On 25 May 2021, at 17:33, Flora MacAffer <fody1950@...> wrote:
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>> Hi Morag
>> I’m afraid you need a Facebook account to be able  to join Old Islay and also our other page “Islay from the year 2000 to the present....”.
>> Regards
>> Flora
>>>> On 25 May 2021, at 17:27, Morag Fowler via groups.io <morag.fowler=googlemail.com@groups.io> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Flora,
>>>
>>> Can you join the Facebook Old Islay page without having a Facebook account? If so, could you tell me how, please? I am wary of Facebook itself as friends were vilified on it without redress. However, I would like to join in the group if safe.
>>>
>>> Best wishes,
>>> Morag M Fowler
>>>
>>>
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Re: Request to join Old Islay

Flora MacAffer
 

Hi Morag

I only joined Facebook for Old Islay and don’t have any personal information such as date of birth etc on my profile.

Return of the Children seems so long ago! If I remember correctly you are connected to the Orr family? One of my relatives, Margaret Campbell, married Neil Orr and lived at Arivoulchalum in the Lotts. Have you had your DNA tested?

Regards
Flora

On 25 May 2021, at 18:50, Morag Fowler via groups.io <morag.fowler=googlemail.com@groups.io> wrote:

Hi Flora,

Thanks for your speedy reply. I’ll try to find out how safe Facebook is nowadays. Apart from the friends’ trouble with it, I had to go to the police over a man getting my contact details - though not through Facebook, to be fair - and sending me threatening messages, and I’m still a bit jumpy about how I’m contactable..

Recently I had a look through the file I still have from the Return of the Children week. It was so well organised and enjoyable.

Regards,
Morag
On 25 May 2021, at 17:33, Flora MacAffer <fody1950@hotmail.com> wrote:

Hi Morag
I’m afraid you need a Facebook account to be able to join Old Islay and also our other page “Islay from the year 2000 to the present....”.
Regards
Flora
On 25 May 2021, at 17:27, Morag Fowler via groups.io <morag.fowler=googlemail.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi Flora,

Can you join the Facebook Old Islay page without having a Facebook account? If so, could you tell me how, please? I am wary of Facebook itself as friends were vilified on it without redress. However, I would like to join in the group if safe.

Best wishes,
Morag M Fowler











Re: Request to join Old Islay

Allan Moore
 

Morag
Just a suggestion - create an account as “Morag F” and leave the photo blank, make sure all your details are for your eyes only and don’t add any friends. Then let the Admins know who you are.
Make sure you use 2 factor authentication so you don’t get hacked.
Allan

On May 25, 2021, at 11:50, Morag Fowler via groups.io <morag.fowler=googlemail.com@groups.io> wrote:

Hi Flora,

Thanks for your speedy reply. I’ll try to find out how safe Facebook is nowadays. Apart from the friends’ trouble with it, I had to go to the police over a man getting my contact details - though not through Facebook, to be fair - and sending me threatening messages, and I’m still a bit jumpy about how I’m contactable..

Recently I had a look through the file I still have from the Return of the Children week. It was so well organised and enjoyable.

Regards,
Morag
On 25 May 2021, at 17:33, Flora MacAffer <fody1950@hotmail.com> wrote:

Hi Morag
I’m afraid you need a Facebook account to be able to join Old Islay and also our other page “Islay from the year 2000 to the present....”.
Regards
Flora
On 25 May 2021, at 17:27, Morag Fowler via groups.io <morag.fowler=googlemail.com@groups.io> wrote:

Hi Flora,

Can you join the Facebook Old Islay page without having a Facebook account? If so, could you tell me how, please? I am wary of Facebook itself as friends were vilified on it without redress. However, I would like to join in the group if safe.

Best wishes,
Morag M Fowler











Re: Request to join Old Islay

Morag Fowler
 

Hi Flora,

Thanks for your speedy reply. I’ll try to find out how safe Facebook is nowadays. Apart from the friends’ trouble with it, I had to go to the police over a man getting my contact details - though not through Facebook, to be fair - and sending me threatening messages, and I’m still a bit jumpy about how I’m contactable..

Recently I had a look through the file I still have from the Return of the Children week. It was so well organised and enjoyable.

Regards,
Morag

On 25 May 2021, at 17:33, Flora MacAffer <fody1950@hotmail.com> wrote:

Hi Morag
I’m afraid you need a Facebook account to be able to join Old Islay and also our other page “Islay from the year 2000 to the present....”.
Regards
Flora
On 25 May 2021, at 17:27, Morag Fowler via groups.io <morag.fowler=googlemail.com@groups.io> wrote:

Hi Flora,

Can you join the Facebook Old Islay page without having a Facebook account? If so, could you tell me how, please? I am wary of Facebook itself as friends were vilified on it without redress. However, I would like to join in the group if safe.

Best wishes,
Morag M Fowler








Re: Request to join Old Islay

Flora MacAffer
 

Hi Morag
I’m afraid you need a Facebook account to be able to join Old Islay and also our other page “Islay from the year 2000 to the present....”.
Regards
Flora

On 25 May 2021, at 17:27, Morag Fowler via groups.io <morag.fowler=googlemail.com@groups.io> wrote:

Hi Flora,

Can you join the Facebook Old Islay page without having a Facebook account? If so, could you tell me how, please? I am wary of Facebook itself as friends were vilified on it without redress. However, I would like to join in the group if safe.

Best wishes,
Morag M Fowler




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