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Hi Julie:
We must be distant cousins because my ancestor Coll Lamont (1786-1861) was the son of Donald Lamont ( b 1750?) and Janet McEachern ( no firm dates proof from their son's Godfrey's death registration who died 1860 Portnellan). Donald Lamont ( maybe born c. 1750) is believed to be the brother of your Angus (b 1767) who died in 1851 in Mt Forest. Their father is Angus Lamont who died 16 Dec 1797, buried in Kilchonnan. ( Here lies the remains of Angus Lamont tenant in Port-Nellan who departed this life Dec 16th 1797 aged 66 years. This stone was erected by his son Angus)
Anne Goeden
That’s so amazing! My brothers and I went back to Mt Forest just before Covid and met Isabella McLellan and Velma and Barry Manser, as well as Darlene McLellan who has put this great book about our family together. Even so I puzzle when, why and how they came. I am now reading James Hunter’s most recent book, Insurrection about the famine of 1046-47, the failure of the potato crop and subsequent famine all along the Western Isles, wondering about my ancestor's motivation, knowing that John Ramsay paid passage for many islanders, but the Mclellan’s are not mentioned in the book his daughter wrote about his visit to Canada. On Jan 9, 2022, at 3:52 PM, Julie Prusila < juliep@...> wrote:
I took piano lessons about 1965 from Bertha McLellan when I lived in Mount Forest. Ancestry says she’s a second cousin 2x removed. I believe she was spinster and cared for her blind mother Janet McDermid. Julie Yes, that’s my uncle. And I believe his sister Bertha McLellan was also engaged to a Lamont, broken off in part because the tragedy of Charles death followed on the untimely death of their father, leaving my grandmother bereft. On Jan 9, 2022, at 3:41 PM, Julie Prusila < juliep@...> wrote:
Possibly. I have 9 Charles McLellans born in 1800s. I know Dr Charles W McLellan died suddenly in 1929 in Holstein ON. Julie Prusila 613-447-2377 My uncle Charles McLellan was engaged to a Lamont before he died suddenly; could it be a relation? Anna McLellan On Jan 9, 2022, at 3:24 PM, Julie Prusila < juliep@...> wrote:
My grandmother was a Lamont in Mount Forest ON My 3rd great grandfather Archibald Lamont McLellan 1790 Kilmartin/1870 Arthur Twp
………… My 3rd great grandfather Angus John Lamont 1767 Islay/1851 Mount Forest and Lucie Ogilvie
2nd great grandfather Duncan Lamont about 1798 Islay/1888 Mount Forest On and Ann McEachern 1807 Smaull Kilchoman Islay/1894 Mt Forest on
Great grandfather Duncan Edward Lamont 1848 Arthur Twp/1928 and Catharine C McLellan 1856 Arthur Two/1944 Arthur twp
Grandfather Jabez Robert Charles Barnard 1889 Middlesex twp/1964 Mt Forest and Sarah Isabella “Minnie” Lamont 1888 Mt Forest/1936 Mt Forest Julie Barnard Prusila Hi I'm Anne and my two main lines from Islay are Lamont and Currie.
My Lamont ancestor was Coll Lamont from Portnellan, Kilmeny. He was a dancing master and emigrated to Canada in late 1851. His siblings ( who remained in Islay) were Gilbert Lamont (died 1853) John Lamont ( died 1847) Godfrey Lamont ( died 1860) Archibald ( died before 1851 his widow Margaret McPhee is living at Shenigart on 1851 census) a sister Mary ( who died sometime after 1849 and was married to Murdoch Currie of Bowmore)
Coll Lamont's wife was Mary Currie.( 1794-1877) her brother Donald Currie ( 1806-1877) Unknown parents but the mother believed to be a Sinclair. Donald Currie emigrated about 1830 to Chinguacousy Township, Peel County Ontario. He moved to Bruce County Ontario in 1854.
Julie Prusila, who are your Lamonts?
Anne Goeden On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 11:15 AM Julie Prusila < juliep@...> wrote: Perhaps. McLellan, Currie, Lamont, McGillivray.
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What book are you referring to? I’d be interested to get a copy.
On Jan 9, 2022, at 4:11 PM, Anna Mclellan via groups.io <annamclellan@...> wrote:
That’s so amazing! My brothers and I went back to Mt Forest just before Covid and met Isabella McLellan and Velma and Barry Manser, as well as Darlene McLellan who has put this great book about our family together. Even so I puzzle when, why and how they came. I am now reading James Hunter’s most recent book, Insurrection about the famine of 1046-47, the failure of the potato crop and subsequent famine all along the Western Isles, wondering about my ancestor's motivation, knowing that John Ramsay paid passage for many islanders, but the Mclellan’s are not mentioned in the book his daughter wrote about his visit to Canada. On Jan 9, 2022, at 3:52 PM, Julie Prusila < juliep@...> wrote:
I took piano lessons about 1965 from Bertha McLellan when I lived in Mount Forest. Ancestry says she’s a second cousin 2x removed. I believe she was spinster and cared for her blind mother Janet McDermid. Julie Yes, that’s my uncle. And I believe his sister Bertha McLellan was also engaged to a Lamont, broken off in part because the tragedy of Charles death followed on the untimely death of their father, leaving my grandmother bereft. On Jan 9, 2022, at 3:41 PM, Julie Prusila < juliep@...> wrote:
Possibly. I have 9 Charles McLellans born in 1800s. I know Dr Charles W McLellan died suddenly in 1929 in Holstein ON. Julie Prusila 613-447-2377 My uncle Charles McLellan was engaged to a Lamont before he died suddenly; could it be a relation? Anna McLellan On Jan 9, 2022, at 3:24 PM, Julie Prusila < juliep@...> wrote:
My grandmother was a Lamont in Mount Forest ON My 3rd great grandfather Archibald Lamont McLellan 1790 Kilmartin/1870 Arthur Twp
………… My 3rd great grandfather Angus John Lamont 1767 Islay/1851 Mount Forest and Lucie Ogilvie
2nd great grandfather Duncan Lamont about 1798 Islay/1888 Mount Forest On and Ann McEachern 1807 Smaull Kilchoman Islay/1894 Mt Forest on
Great grandfather Duncan Edward Lamont 1848 Arthur Twp/1928 and Catharine C McLellan 1856 Arthur Two/1944 Arthur twp
Grandfather Jabez Robert Charles Barnard 1889 Middlesex twp/1964 Mt Forest and Sarah Isabella “Minnie” Lamont 1888 Mt Forest/1936 Mt Forest Julie Barnard Prusila Hi I'm Anne and my two main lines from Islay are Lamont and Currie.
My Lamont ancestor was Coll Lamont from Portnellan, Kilmeny. He was a dancing master and emigrated to Canada in late 1851. His siblings ( who remained in Islay) were Gilbert Lamont (died 1853) John Lamont ( died 1847) Godfrey Lamont ( died 1860) Archibald ( died before 1851 his widow Margaret McPhee is living at Shenigart on 1851 census) a sister Mary ( who died sometime after 1849 and was married to Murdoch Currie of Bowmore)
Coll Lamont's wife was Mary Currie.( 1794-1877) her brother Donald Currie ( 1806-1877) Unknown parents but the mother believed to be a Sinclair. Donald Currie emigrated about 1830 to Chinguacousy Township, Peel County Ontario. He moved to Bruce County Ontario in 1854.
Julie Prusila, who are your Lamonts?
Anne Goeden On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 11:15 AM Julie Prusila < juliep@...> wrote: Perhaps. McLellan, Currie, Lamont, McGillivray.
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That’s so amazing! My brothers and I went back to Mt Forest just before Covid and met Isabella McLellan and Velma and Barry Manser, as well as Darlene McLellan who has put this great book about our family together. Even so I puzzle when, why and how they came. I am now reading James Hunter’s most recent book, Insurrection about the famine of 1046-47, the failure of the potato crop and subsequent famine all along the Western Isles, wondering about my ancestor's motivation, knowing that John Ramsay paid passage for many islanders, but the Mclellan’s are not mentioned in the book his daughter wrote about his visit to Canada.
On Jan 9, 2022, at 3:52 PM, Julie Prusila < juliep@...> wrote:
I took piano lessons about 1965 from Bertha McLellan when I lived in Mount Forest. Ancestry says she’s a second cousin 2x removed. I believe she was spinster and cared for her blind mother Janet McDermid. Julie Yes, that’s my uncle. And I believe his sister Bertha McLellan was also engaged to a Lamont, broken off in part because the tragedy of Charles death followed on the untimely death of their father, leaving my grandmother bereft. On Jan 9, 2022, at 3:41 PM, Julie Prusila < juliep@...> wrote:
Possibly. I have 9 Charles McLellans born in 1800s. I know Dr Charles W McLellan died suddenly in 1929 in Holstein ON. Julie Prusila 613-447-2377 My uncle Charles McLellan was engaged to a Lamont before he died suddenly; could it be a relation? Anna McLellan On Jan 9, 2022, at 3:24 PM, Julie Prusila < juliep@...> wrote:
My grandmother was a Lamont in Mount Forest ON My 3rd great grandfather Archibald Lamont McLellan 1790 Kilmartin/1870 Arthur Twp
………… My 3rd great grandfather Angus John Lamont 1767 Islay/1851 Mount Forest and Lucie Ogilvie
2nd great grandfather Duncan Lamont about 1798 Islay/1888 Mount Forest On and Ann McEachern 1807 Smaull Kilchoman Islay/1894 Mt Forest on
Great grandfather Duncan Edward Lamont 1848 Arthur Twp/1928 and Catharine C McLellan 1856 Arthur Two/1944 Arthur twp
Grandfather Jabez Robert Charles Barnard 1889 Middlesex twp/1964 Mt Forest and Sarah Isabella “Minnie” Lamont 1888 Mt Forest/1936 Mt Forest Julie Barnard Prusila Hi I'm Anne and my two main lines from Islay are Lamont and Currie.
My Lamont ancestor was Coll Lamont from Portnellan, Kilmeny. He was a dancing master and emigrated to Canada in late 1851. His siblings ( who remained in Islay) were Gilbert Lamont (died 1853) John Lamont ( died 1847) Godfrey Lamont ( died 1860) Archibald ( died before 1851 his widow Margaret McPhee is living at Shenigart on 1851 census) a sister Mary ( who died sometime after 1849 and was married to Murdoch Currie of Bowmore)
Coll Lamont's wife was Mary Currie.( 1794-1877) her brother Donald Currie ( 1806-1877) Unknown parents but the mother believed to be a Sinclair. Donald Currie emigrated about 1830 to Chinguacousy Township, Peel County Ontario. He moved to Bruce County Ontario in 1854.
Julie Prusila, who are your Lamonts?
Anne Goeden On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 11:15 AM Julie Prusila < juliep@...> wrote: Perhaps. McLellan, Currie, Lamont, McGillivray.
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I took piano lessons about 1965 from Bertha McLellan when I lived in Mount Forest. Ancestry says she’s a second cousin 2x removed. I believe she was spinster and cared for her blind mother Janet McDermid. Julie
On Jan 9, 2022, at 3:44 PM, Anna Mclellan via groups.io <annamclellan@...> wrote:
Yes, that’s my uncle. And I believe his sister Bertha McLellan was also engaged to a Lamont, broken off in part because the tragedy of Charles death followed on the untimely death of their father, leaving my grandmother bereft. On Jan 9, 2022, at 3:41 PM, Julie Prusila < juliep@...> wrote:
Possibly. I have 9 Charles McLellans born in 1800s. I know Dr Charles W McLellan died suddenly in 1929 in Holstein ON. Julie Prusila 613-447-2377 My uncle Charles McLellan was engaged to a Lamont before he died suddenly; could it be a relation? Anna McLellan On Jan 9, 2022, at 3:24 PM, Julie Prusila < juliep@...> wrote:
My grandmother was a Lamont in Mount Forest ON My 3rd great grandfather Archibald Lamont McLellan 1790 Kilmartin/1870 Arthur Twp
………… My 3rd great grandfather Angus John Lamont 1767 Islay/1851 Mount Forest and Lucie Ogilvie
2nd great grandfather Duncan Lamont about 1798 Islay/1888 Mount Forest On and Ann McEachern 1807 Smaull Kilchoman Islay/1894 Mt Forest on
Great grandfather Duncan Edward Lamont 1848 Arthur Twp/1928 and Catharine C McLellan 1856 Arthur Two/1944 Arthur twp
Grandfather Jabez Robert Charles Barnard 1889 Middlesex twp/1964 Mt Forest and Sarah Isabella “Minnie” Lamont 1888 Mt Forest/1936 Mt Forest Julie Barnard Prusila Hi I'm Anne and my two main lines from Islay are Lamont and Currie.
My Lamont ancestor was Coll Lamont from Portnellan, Kilmeny. He was a dancing master and emigrated to Canada in late 1851. His siblings ( who remained in Islay) were Gilbert Lamont (died 1853) John Lamont ( died 1847) Godfrey Lamont ( died 1860) Archibald ( died before 1851 his widow Margaret McPhee is living at Shenigart on 1851 census) a sister Mary ( who died sometime after 1849 and was married to Murdoch Currie of Bowmore)
Coll Lamont's wife was Mary Currie.( 1794-1877) her brother Donald Currie ( 1806-1877) Unknown parents but the mother believed to be a Sinclair. Donald Currie emigrated about 1830 to Chinguacousy Township, Peel County Ontario. He moved to Bruce County Ontario in 1854.
Julie Prusila, who are your Lamonts?
Anne Goeden On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 11:15 AM Julie Prusila < juliep@...> wrote: Perhaps. McLellan, Currie, Lamont, McGillivray.
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Yes, that’s my uncle. And I believe his sister Bertha McLellan was also engaged to a Lamont, broken off in part because the tragedy of Charles death followed on the untimely death of their father, leaving my grandmother bereft.
On Jan 9, 2022, at 3:41 PM, Julie Prusila < juliep@...> wrote:
Possibly. I have 9 Charles McLellans born in 1800s. I know Dr Charles W McLellan died suddenly in 1929 in Holstein ON. Julie Prusila 613-447-2377 My uncle Charles McLellan was engaged to a Lamont before he died suddenly; could it be a relation? Anna McLellan On Jan 9, 2022, at 3:24 PM, Julie Prusila < juliep@...> wrote:
My grandmother was a Lamont in Mount Forest ON My 3rd great grandfather Archibald Lamont McLellan 1790 Kilmartin/1870 Arthur Twp
………… My 3rd great grandfather Angus John Lamont 1767 Islay/1851 Mount Forest and Lucie Ogilvie
2nd great grandfather Duncan Lamont about 1798 Islay/1888 Mount Forest On and Ann McEachern 1807 Smaull Kilchoman Islay/1894 Mt Forest on
Great grandfather Duncan Edward Lamont 1848 Arthur Twp/1928 and Catharine C McLellan 1856 Arthur Two/1944 Arthur twp
Grandfather Jabez Robert Charles Barnard 1889 Middlesex twp/1964 Mt Forest and Sarah Isabella “Minnie” Lamont 1888 Mt Forest/1936 Mt Forest Julie Barnard Prusila Hi I'm Anne and my two main lines from Islay are Lamont and Currie.
My Lamont ancestor was Coll Lamont from Portnellan, Kilmeny. He was a dancing master and emigrated to Canada in late 1851. His siblings ( who remained in Islay) were Gilbert Lamont (died 1853) John Lamont ( died 1847) Godfrey Lamont ( died 1860) Archibald ( died before 1851 his widow Margaret McPhee is living at Shenigart on 1851 census) a sister Mary ( who died sometime after 1849 and was married to Murdoch Currie of Bowmore)
Coll Lamont's wife was Mary Currie.( 1794-1877) her brother Donald Currie ( 1806-1877) Unknown parents but the mother believed to be a Sinclair. Donald Currie emigrated about 1830 to Chinguacousy Township, Peel County Ontario. He moved to Bruce County Ontario in 1854.
Julie Prusila, who are your Lamonts?
Anne Goeden On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 11:15 AM Julie Prusila < juliep@...> wrote: Perhaps. McLellan, Currie, Lamont, McGillivray.
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Possibly. I have 9 Charles McLellans born in 1800s. I know Dr Charles W McLellan died suddenly in 1929 in Holstein ON. Julie Prusila 613-447-2377
On Jan 9, 2022, at 3:32 PM, Anna Mclellan via groups.io <annamclellan@...> wrote:
My uncle Charles McLellan was engaged to a Lamont before he died suddenly; could it be a relation? Anna McLellan On Jan 9, 2022, at 3:24 PM, Julie Prusila < juliep@...> wrote:
My grandmother was a Lamont in Mount Forest ON My 3rd great grandfather Archibald Lamont McLellan 1790 Kilmartin/1870 Arthur Twp
………… My 3rd great grandfather Angus John Lamont 1767 Islay/1851 Mount Forest and Lucie Ogilvie
2nd great grandfather Duncan Lamont about 1798 Islay/1888 Mount Forest On and Ann McEachern 1807 Smaull Kilchoman Islay/1894 Mt Forest on
Great grandfather Duncan Edward Lamont 1848 Arthur Twp/1928 and Catharine C McLellan 1856 Arthur Two/1944 Arthur twp
Grandfather Jabez Robert Charles Barnard 1889 Middlesex twp/1964 Mt Forest and Sarah Isabella “Minnie” Lamont 1888 Mt Forest/1936 Mt Forest Julie Barnard Prusila Hi I'm Anne and my two main lines from Islay are Lamont and Currie.
My Lamont ancestor was Coll Lamont from Portnellan, Kilmeny. He was a dancing master and emigrated to Canada in late 1851. His siblings ( who remained in Islay) were Gilbert Lamont (died 1853) John Lamont ( died 1847) Godfrey Lamont ( died 1860) Archibald ( died before 1851 his widow Margaret McPhee is living at Shenigart on 1851 census) a sister Mary ( who died sometime after 1849 and was married to Murdoch Currie of Bowmore)
Coll Lamont's wife was Mary Currie.( 1794-1877) her brother Donald Currie ( 1806-1877) Unknown parents but the mother believed to be a Sinclair. Donald Currie emigrated about 1830 to Chinguacousy Township, Peel County Ontario. He moved to Bruce County Ontario in 1854.
Julie Prusila, who are your Lamonts?
Anne Goeden On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 11:15 AM Julie Prusila < juliep@...> wrote: Perhaps. McLellan, Currie, Lamont, McGillivray.
Julie
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My uncle Charles McLellan was engaged to a Lamont before he died suddenly; could it be a relation?
On Jan 9, 2022, at 3:24 PM, Julie Prusila < juliep@...> wrote:
My grandmother was a Lamont in Mount Forest ON My 3rd great grandfather Archibald Lamont McLellan 1790 Kilmartin/1870 Arthur Twp
………… My 3rd great grandfather Angus John Lamont 1767 Islay/1851 Mount Forest and Lucie Ogilvie
2nd great grandfather Duncan Lamont about 1798 Islay/1888 Mount Forest On and Ann McEachern 1807 Smaull Kilchoman Islay/1894 Mt Forest on
Great grandfather Duncan Edward Lamont 1848 Arthur Twp/1928 and Catharine C McLellan 1856 Arthur Two/1944 Arthur twp
Grandfather Jabez Robert Charles Barnard 1889 Middlesex twp/1964 Mt Forest and Sarah Isabella “Minnie” Lamont 1888 Mt Forest/1936 Mt Forest Julie Barnard Prusila Hi I'm Anne and my two main lines from Islay are Lamont and Currie.
My Lamont ancestor was Coll Lamont from Portnellan, Kilmeny. He was a dancing master and emigrated to Canada in late 1851. His siblings ( who remained in Islay) were Gilbert Lamont (died 1853) John Lamont ( died 1847) Godfrey Lamont ( died 1860) Archibald ( died before 1851 his widow Margaret McPhee is living at Shenigart on 1851 census) a sister Mary ( who died sometime after 1849 and was married to Murdoch Currie of Bowmore)
Coll Lamont's wife was Mary Currie.( 1794-1877) her brother Donald Currie ( 1806-1877) Unknown parents but the mother believed to be a Sinclair. Donald Currie emigrated about 1830 to Chinguacousy Township, Peel County Ontario. He moved to Bruce County Ontario in 1854.
Julie Prusila, who are your Lamonts?
Anne Goeden On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 11:15 AM Julie Prusila < juliep@...> wrote: Perhaps. McLellan, Currie, Lamont, McGillivray.
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I am not aware of a connection beyond the fact that Mary Campbell sailed with her husband Neil McArthur on Captain Campbell’s ship to NY. They are on the registry, and I can trace their movements fairly easily once in the US, all the way to Canada where I grew up. I have a fairly extensive family Bible, which has been a great help. I am not aware of an Ann I’m afraid, but these Campbell’s who sailed are probably all related, I would think. I am a stealth researcher, and plan to keep on digging. I have several emails out to others, so will keep you posted.
On Jan 9, 2022, at 1:05 PM, Lorne & Susan Campbell <lornesusan.campbell1@...> wrote:
Shelley, are you aware of any connection between Captain Lachlan Campbell and Neall McArthur’s wife Mary Campbell? Or to Ann Campbell who arrived in 1740, age 15 as a single person and who married James Gillis. Thanks. Lorne Sent from Mail for Windows This has been very helpful Iain thank you! I have found Neil (Neall) McArthur’s and Mary Campbell’s marriage certificate from parish #541 in Kilmeny and their son John’s baptismal record in the same parish. He would have been two years old when they sailed with Captain Campbell to NY. On the baptismal record it records the “place” - presumably where they lived and it’s listed as Ardtallay. Does anyone know is this an actual area on Islay or would this be in reference to the farm there that exists now as a resort? When I went to the farms website, it talks about how it was owned by the McArthurs! I’m blown away by these discoveries. Thank you all for your help! Shelley
On Jan 9, 2022, at 11:09 AM, Lorne & Susan Campbell <lornesusan.campbell1@...> wrote:
Is there any way to change my email address of the researchers list from jlorne dot campbell At symp At Ico dot Ca to LorneSusan.Campbell1@... I am still researching the names and would love to interact with other researchers. Note the 1 after Campbell Much appreciated. Lorne | | jlorne dot campbell At symp At ico dot ca | |
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https://web.archive.org/web/20080405035838/http:/freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~tlarson/bdm/
On 9 Jan 2022, at 16:43, Susan Page <spage9898@...> wrote:
Shelley and all It is my understanding that all available Islay parish records were put on wonderful searchable spreadsheets by someone and then kept on roots web which then went defunct. Perhaps someone kept the spreadsheets and can share. I used them about 10 years ago to do my husbands Currie/Campbell folks who came to Ontario Canada 1841. Many of the connections have now been confirmed by DNA…seeing cousins on Ancestry DNA matches and on Gedmatch. Susan
Oh my! I’m terribly sorry for not specifying. I was referring to John Lynch. I should have been more specific - it was very late, and I was having a bit of a hard time figuring out the site - I was trying to send him a message to ensure he got this, but couldn’t figure it out. I did want the whole group to see it as well, however, as I would love to find family in Islay. I have just begun this leg of my journey - wondering if you have any suggestions. I understand there were not good parish records kept and/or some were destroyed? I’m wondering if there are local genealogists and/or historians that might know more. Thanks so much for reaching out, and I apologize again. Shelley Being descended from illeachs there is every chance that we are connected, however from your history I can’t see a link to my known family tree. The only Neil McArthur connection is the husband of my Great Grandfather Robert Kennedy’s half sister Mary Kennedy. However this Neil McArthur was not born until 1824 in Islay. Any clues? Sent from Mail for Windows Hi John,
I believe we are connected. I have been doing similar research for the past two years and have learned much. Charles McArthur was the brother of John and Christine McArthur. Their parents were Neil McArthur and Mary Campbell, and they all came over to NY on the Argyle Patent in 1738. They settled in Claverack, NY and John and Charles fought as loyalists in the Revolutionary War. Charles is my 6th great uncle. His sister Christine McArthur, my 6th great grandmother, married a John Taylor and they had a daughter who was born in Claverack in 1745 named Mary Taylor. The Taylors and McArthurs were a wild bunch. I have quite a bit of information. Mary, my 5th great grandmother, married John MacKenzie, and this is where I hit a wall, trying to trace his line back to Scotland. When the English lost the war, the loyalists were given land in upper Ontario, Canada, and all the McArthurs, Taylors, and MacKenzies in our line migrated there. I have birth and christening records, land claims and grants, handwritten etc. I even have Charles’ military record. This is where the Quebec connection would come in for you. I will try to send you a message as well in case you don’t see this. There are several resources I can share with you. I am also just starting to try to find the origins of Mary Campbell and Neil McArthur from Islay, but old parish records were not well kept from what I understand. Hope to connect soon. Shelley <948A4AA6E09146CFA5F49D8DE7EE51F6.png>
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My grandmother was a Lamont in Mount Forest ON My 3rd great grandfather Archibald Lamont McLellan 1790 Kilmartin/1870 Arthur Twp
………… My 3rd great grandfather Angus John Lamont 1767 Islay/1851 Mount Forest and Lucie Ogilvie
2nd great grandfather Duncan Lamont about 1798 Islay/1888 Mount Forest On and Ann McEachern 1807 Smaull Kilchoman Islay/1894 Mt Forest on
Great grandfather Duncan Edward Lamont 1848 Arthur Twp/1928 and Catharine C McLellan 1856 Arthur Two/1944 Arthur twp
Grandfather Jabez Robert Charles Barnard 1889 Middlesex twp/1964 Mt Forest and Sarah Isabella “Minnie” Lamont 1888 Mt Forest/1936 Mt Forest
On Jan 9, 2022, at 2:42 PM, Anne Goeden <annegoeden@...> wrote:
Hi I'm Anne and my two main lines from Islay are Lamont and Currie.
My Lamont ancestor was Coll Lamont from Portnellan, Kilmeny. He was a dancing master and emigrated to Canada in late 1851. His siblings ( who remained in Islay) were Gilbert Lamont (died 1853) John Lamont ( died 1847) Godfrey Lamont ( died 1860) Archibald ( died before 1851 his widow Margaret McPhee is living at Shenigart on 1851 census) a sister Mary ( who died sometime after 1849 and was married to Murdoch Currie of Bowmore)
Coll Lamont's wife was Mary Currie.( 1794-1877) her brother Donald Currie ( 1806-1877) Unknown parents but the mother believed to be a Sinclair. Donald Currie emigrated about 1830 to Chinguacousy Township, Peel County Ontario. He moved to Bruce County Ontario in 1854.
Julie Prusila, who are your Lamonts?
Anne Goeden On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 11:15 AM Julie Prusila < juliep@...> wrote: Perhaps. McLellan, Currie, Lamont, McGillivray.
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Shelley, are you aware of any connection between Captain Lachlan Campbell and Neall McArthur’s wife Mary Campbell? Or to Ann Campbell who arrived in 1740, age 15 as a single person and who married James Gillis. Thanks. Lorne Sent from Mail for Windows
From: S KSent: Sunday, January 9, 2022 2:18 PM To: Islay@scotland-genealogy.groups.ioSubject: Re: [Islay] Roll Call ? This has been very helpful Iain thank you! I have found Neil (Neall) McArthur’s and Mary Campbell’s marriage certificate from parish #541 in Kilmeny and their son John’s baptismal record in the same parish. He would have been two years old when they sailed with Captain Campbell to NY. On the baptismal record it records the “place” - presumably where they lived and it’s listed as Ardtallay. Does anyone know is this an actual area on Islay or would this be in reference to the farm there that exists now as a resort? When I went to the farms website, it talks about how it was owned by the McArthurs! I’m blown away by these discoveries. Thank you all for your help! Shelley
On Jan 9, 2022, at 11:09 AM, Lorne & Susan Campbell <lornesusan.campbell1@...> wrote:
Is there any way to change my email address of the researchers list from jlorne dot campbell At symp At Ico dot Ca to LorneSusan.Campbell1@... I am still researching the names and would love to interact with other researchers. Note the 1 after Campbell Much appreciated. Lorne | | jlorne dot campbell At symp At ico dot ca | |
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https://web.archive.org/web/20080405035838/http:/freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~tlarson/bdm/
On 9 Jan 2022, at 16:43, Susan Page <spage9898@...> wrote:
Shelley and all It is my understanding that all available Islay parish records were put on wonderful searchable spreadsheets by someone and then kept on roots web which then went defunct. Perhaps someone kept the spreadsheets and can share. I used them about 10 years ago to do my husbands Currie/Campbell folks who came to Ontario Canada 1841. Many of the connections have now been confirmed by DNA…seeing cousins on Ancestry DNA matches and on Gedmatch. Susan
Oh my! I’m terribly sorry for not specifying. I was referring to John Lynch. I should have been more specific - it was very late, and I was having a bit of a hard time figuring out the site - I was trying to send him a message to ensure he got this, but couldn’t figure it out. I did want the whole group to see it as well, however, as I would love to find family in Islay. I have just begun this leg of my journey - wondering if you have any suggestions. I understand there were not good parish records kept and/or some were destroyed? I’m wondering if there are local genealogists and/or historians that might know more. Thanks so much for reaching out, and I apologize again. Shelley Being descended from illeachs there is every chance that we are connected, however from your history I can’t see a link to my known family tree. The only Neil McArthur connection is the husband of my Great Grandfather Robert Kennedy’s half sister Mary Kennedy. However this Neil McArthur was not born until 1824 in Islay. Any clues? Sent from Mail for Windows Hi John,
I believe we are connected. I have been doing similar research for the past two years and have learned much. Charles McArthur was the brother of John and Christine McArthur. Their parents were Neil McArthur and Mary Campbell, and they all came over to NY on the Argyle Patent in 1738. They settled in Claverack, NY and John and Charles fought as loyalists in the Revolutionary War. Charles is my 6th great uncle. His sister Christine McArthur, my 6th great grandmother, married a John Taylor and they had a daughter who was born in Claverack in 1745 named Mary Taylor. The Taylors and McArthurs were a wild bunch. I have quite a bit of information. Mary, my 5th great grandmother, married John MacKenzie, and this is where I hit a wall, trying to trace his line back to Scotland. When the English lost the war, the loyalists were given land in upper Ontario, Canada, and all the McArthurs, Taylors, and MacKenzies in our line migrated there. I have birth and christening records, land claims and grants, handwritten etc. I even have Charles’ military record. This is where the Quebec connection would come in for you. I will try to send you a message as well in case you don’t see this. There are several resources I can share with you. I am also just starting to try to find the origins of Mary Campbell and Neil McArthur from Islay, but old parish records were not well kept from what I understand. Hope to connect soon. Shelley <948A4AA6E09146CFA5F49D8DE7EE51F6.png>
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Hi I'm Anne and my two main lines from Islay are Lamont and Currie.
My Lamont ancestor was Coll Lamont from Portnellan, Kilmeny. He was a dancing master and emigrated to Canada in late 1851. His siblings ( who remained in Islay) were Gilbert Lamont (died 1853) John Lamont ( died 1847) Godfrey Lamont ( died 1860) Archibald ( died before 1851 his widow Margaret McPhee is living at Shenigart on 1851 census) a sister Mary ( who died sometime after 1849 and was married to Murdoch Currie of Bowmore)
Coll Lamont's wife was Mary Currie.( 1794-1877) her brother Donald Currie ( 1806-1877) Unknown parents but the mother believed to be a Sinclair. Donald Currie emigrated about 1830 to Chinguacousy Township, Peel County Ontario. He moved to Bruce County Ontario in 1854.
Julie Prusila, who are your Lamonts?
Anne Goeden
On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 11:15 AM Julie Prusila < juliep@...> wrote: Perhaps. McLellan, Currie, Lamont, McGillivray.
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This has been very helpful Iain thank you! I have found Neil (Neall) McArthur’s and Mary Campbell’s marriage certificate from parish #541 in Kilmeny and their son John’s baptismal record in the same parish. He would have been two years old when they sailed with Captain Campbell to NY. On the baptismal record it records the “place” - presumably where they lived and it’s listed as Ardtallay. Does anyone know is this an actual area on Islay or would this be in reference to the farm there that exists now as a resort? When I went to the farms website, it talks about how it was owned by the McArthurs! I’m blown away by these discoveries. Thank you all for your help!
On Jan 9, 2022, at 11:09 AM, Lorne & Susan Campbell <lornesusan.campbell1@...> wrote:
Is there any way to change my email address of the researchers list from jlorne dot campbell At symp At Ico dot Ca to LorneSusan.Campbell1@... I am still researching the names and would love to interact with other researchers. Note the 1 after Campbell Much appreciated. Lorne | jlorne dot campbell At symp At ico dot ca | |
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https://web.archive.org/web/20080405035838/http:/freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~tlarson/bdm/
On 9 Jan 2022, at 16:43, Susan Page <spage9898@...> wrote:
Shelley and all It is my understanding that all available Islay parish records were put on wonderful searchable spreadsheets by someone and then kept on roots web which then went defunct. Perhaps someone kept the spreadsheets and can share. I used them about 10 years ago to do my husbands Currie/Campbell folks who came to Ontario Canada 1841. Many of the connections have now been confirmed by DNA…seeing cousins on Ancestry DNA matches and on Gedmatch. Susan
Oh my! I’m terribly sorry for not specifying. I was referring to John Lynch. I should have been more specific - it was very late, and I was having a bit of a hard time figuring out the site - I was trying to send him a message to ensure he got this, but couldn’t figure it out. I did want the whole group to see it as well, however, as I would love to find family in Islay. I have just begun this leg of my journey - wondering if you have any suggestions. I understand there were not good parish records kept and/or some were destroyed? I’m wondering if there are local genealogists and/or historians that might know more. Thanks so much for reaching out, and I apologize again. Shelley Being descended from illeachs there is every chance that we are connected, however from your history I can’t see a link to my known family tree. The only Neil McArthur connection is the husband of my Great Grandfather Robert Kennedy’s half sister Mary Kennedy. However this Neil McArthur was not born until 1824 in Islay. Any clues? Sent from Mail for Windows Hi John,
I believe we are connected. I have been doing similar research for the past two years and have learned much. Charles McArthur was the brother of John and Christine McArthur. Their parents were Neil McArthur and Mary Campbell, and they all came over to NY on the Argyle Patent in 1738. They settled in Claverack, NY and John and Charles fought as loyalists in the Revolutionary War. Charles is my 6th great uncle. His sister Christine McArthur, my 6th great grandmother, married a John Taylor and they had a daughter who was born in Claverack in 1745 named Mary Taylor. The Taylors and McArthurs were a wild bunch. I have quite a bit of information. Mary, my 5th great grandmother, married John MacKenzie, and this is where I hit a wall, trying to trace his line back to Scotland. When the English lost the war, the loyalists were given land in upper Ontario, Canada, and all the McArthurs, Taylors, and MacKenzies in our line migrated there. I have birth and christening records, land claims and grants, handwritten etc. I even have Charles’ military record. This is where the Quebec connection would come in for you. I will try to send you a message as well in case you don’t see this. There are several resources I can share with you. I am also just starting to try to find the origins of Mary Campbell and Neil McArthur from Islay, but old parish records were not well kept from what I understand. Hope to connect soon. Shelley <948A4AA6E09146CFA5F49D8DE7EE51F6.png>
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Re: McNabb family of Ballychatrigan and Lyrabus
Hello, again, Anne, and Happy New Year! Just noting a slip of the finger, Andrew and Catherine were born in 1777 and 1779, respectively. I have their marriage only as Feb 1802, from yourself in 2018. I see that you’ve now found an exact date – do you have an image of the OPR you could send to me? (I just noticed that this date is in Ted Larsen’s list, and buried in my notes for a couple of decades). I also have a note that John’s wife was Mary McDermed. My notes on this say only “surname from Heather Hutchinson in 2019, with jpg of marriage record”. If I did ever have this jpg I have lost it. Perhaps Heather could contact both of us about this. I have a jpg of the 1871 Oro death register showing the deaths within a few days of Duncan, Mary & Isabella (McCuaig). Please contact me off-List if you would like to send/receive any docs. Ken Harrison
From: Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io <Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io> On Behalf Of Anne Farrar
Sent: January 9, 2022 9:15 AM
To: Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Islay] McNabb family of Ballychatrigan and Lyrabus Hi Carolyn
My McNabb family arrived in Oro Township, Simcoe County, Ontario between 1832 and about 1850. The parents were Andrew McNabb b.1877 and Catherine McMath (Matheson) b. 1879. They married in Kildalton on February 27, 1802 and had numerous children, many of whom emigrated to join the family in Ontario.
My 2x great grandfather was John McNabb b. abt 1816. He arrived last as far as I can tell with his wife Mary (surname unconfirmed) I know little about them and wonder if you can help point me in the right direction. From the Census and available BMD info I can find them living in Oro and in Sebright, Rama Twp where John died. Almost all of the first generation and much of the next generation are buried at the Knox Presbyterian Cemetery on 9th line of Oro Medonte.
I hope this rings some bells for you
Sincerely
Anne McNabb Farrar
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Is there any way to change my email address of the researchers list from jlorne dot campbell At symp At Ico dot Ca to LorneSusan.Campbell1@... I am still researching the names and would love to interact with other researchers. Note the 1 after Campbell Much appreciated. Lorne | jlorne dot campbell At symp At ico dot ca | |
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From: Iain MacIntoshSent: Sunday, January 9, 2022 12:51 PM To: Islay@scotland-genealogy.groups.ioSubject: Re: [Islay] Roll Call ? Try
https://web.archive.org/web/20080405035838/http:/freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~tlarson/bdm/
On 9 Jan 2022, at 16:43, Susan Page <spage9898@...> wrote:
Shelley and all It is my understanding that all available Islay parish records were put on wonderful searchable spreadsheets by someone and then kept on roots web which then went defunct. Perhaps someone kept the spreadsheets and can share. I used them about 10 years ago to do my husbands Currie/Campbell folks who came to Ontario Canada 1841. Many of the connections have now been confirmed by DNA…seeing cousins on Ancestry DNA matches and on Gedmatch. Susan
Oh my! I’m terribly sorry for not specifying. I was referring to John Lynch. I should have been more specific - it was very late, and I was having a bit of a hard time figuring out the site - I was trying to send him a message to ensure he got this, but couldn’t figure it out. I did want the whole group to see it as well, however, as I would love to find family in Islay. I have just begun this leg of my journey - wondering if you have any suggestions. I understand there were not good parish records kept and/or some were destroyed? I’m wondering if there are local genealogists and/or historians that might know more. Thanks so much for reaching out, and I apologize again. Shelley Being descended from illeachs there is every chance that we are connected, however from your history I can’t see a link to my known family tree. The only Neil McArthur connection is the husband of my Great Grandfather Robert Kennedy’s half sister Mary Kennedy. However this Neil McArthur was not born until 1824 in Islay. Any clues? Sent from Mail for Windows Hi John,
I believe we are connected. I have been doing similar research for the past two years and have learned much. Charles McArthur was the brother of John and Christine McArthur. Their parents were Neil McArthur and Mary Campbell, and they all came over to NY on the Argyle Patent in 1738. They settled in Claverack, NY and John and Charles fought as loyalists in the Revolutionary War. Charles is my 6th great uncle. His sister Christine McArthur, my 6th great grandmother, married a John Taylor and they had a daughter who was born in Claverack in 1745 named Mary Taylor. The Taylors and McArthurs were a wild bunch. I have quite a bit of information. Mary, my 5th great grandmother, married John MacKenzie, and this is where I hit a wall, trying to trace his line back to Scotland. When the English lost the war, the loyalists were given land in upper Ontario, Canada, and all the McArthurs, Taylors, and MacKenzies in our line migrated there. I have birth and christening records, land claims and grants, handwritten etc. I even have Charles’ military record. This is where the Quebec connection would come in for you. I will try to send you a message as well in case you don’t see this. There are several resources I can share with you. I am also just starting to try to find the origins of Mary Campbell and Neil McArthur from Islay, but old parish records were not well kept from what I understand. Hope to connect soon. Shelley <948A4AA6E09146CFA5F49D8DE7EE51F6.png>
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On 9 Jan 2022, at 16:43, Susan Page <spage9898@...> wrote:
Shelley and all It is my understanding that all available Islay parish records were put on wonderful searchable spreadsheets by someone and then kept on roots web which then went defunct. Perhaps someone kept the spreadsheets and can share. I used them about 10 years ago to do my husbands Currie/Campbell folks who came to Ontario Canada 1841. Many of the connections have now been confirmed by DNA…seeing cousins on Ancestry DNA matches and on Gedmatch. Susan
Oh my! I’m terribly sorry for not specifying. I was referring to John Lynch. I should have been more specific - it was very late, and I was having a bit of a hard time figuring out the site - I was trying to send him a message to ensure he got this, but couldn’t figure it out. I did want the whole group to see it as well, however, as I would love to find family in Islay. I have just begun this leg of my journey - wondering if you have any suggestions. I understand there were not good parish records kept and/or some were destroyed? I’m wondering if there are local genealogists and/or historians that might know more.
Thanks so much for reaching out, and I apologize again.
Shelley Dear Shelley, Being descended from illeachs there is every chance that we are connected, however from your history I can’t see a link to my known family tree. The only Neil McArthur connection is the husband of my Great Grandfather Robert Kennedy’s half sister Mary Kennedy. However this Neil McArthur was not born until 1824 in Islay. Any clues? Yours Aye, John. Sent from Mail for Windows Hi John,
I believe we are connected. I have been doing similar research for the past two years and have learned much. Charles McArthur was the brother of John and Christine McArthur. Their parents were Neil McArthur and Mary Campbell, and they all came over to NY on the Argyle Patent in 1738. They settled in Claverack, NY and John and Charles fought as loyalists in the Revolutionary War. Charles is my 6th great uncle. His sister Christine McArthur, my 6th great grandmother, married a John Taylor and they had a daughter who was born in Claverack in 1745 named Mary Taylor. The Taylors and McArthurs were a wild bunch. I have quite a bit of information. Mary, my 5th great grandmother, married John MacKenzie, and this is where I hit a wall, trying to trace his line back to Scotland. When the English lost the war, the loyalists were given land in upper Ontario, Canada, and all the McArthurs, Taylors, and MacKenzies in our line migrated there. I have birth and christening records, land claims and grants, handwritten etc. I even have Charles’ military record. This is where the Quebec connection would come in for you. I will try to send you a message as well in case you don’t see this. There are several resources I can share with you. I am also just starting to try to find the origins of Mary Campbell and Neil McArthur from Islay, but old parish records were not well kept from what I understand. Hope to connect soon. Shelley <948A4AA6E09146CFA5F49D8DE7EE51F6.png>
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Re: McNabb family of Ballychatrigan and Lyrabus
Glynn Currie
Hi Anne,
Apparently we are "cousins". I too am descended from Andrew McNabb. His son Finlay (or Findlay) was my maternal grand mother's grandfather. I have not spent much time on John's line because I have found lots of work simply following the main
lines of each of my 4 grandparents.
Two Ancestry trees that I Iooked at showed John's wife as Margeretta Mary Warter (b.1824). I can not verify that from primary sources, but have temporarily accepted that while I work on my primary lines. Perhaps that gives you a place to look.
Best wishes. It is always good to meet a new cousin.
Glynn Currie
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From: Anne Farrar <afarrar@...>
Date: 2022-01-09 09:15 (GMT-08:00)
To: Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Islay] McNabb family of Ballychatrigan and Lyrabus
Hi Carolyn
My McNabb family arrived in Oro Township, Simcoe County, Ontario between 1832 and about 1850. The parents were Andrew McNabb b.1877 and Catherine McMath (Matheson) b. 1879. They married in Kildalton on February 27, 1802 and had numerous children, many of whom
emigrated to join the family in Ontario.
My 2x great grandfather was John McNabb b. abt 1816. He arrived last as far as I can tell with his wife Mary (surname unconfirmed) I know little about them and wonder if you can help point me in the right direction. From the Census and available BMD info I
can find them living in Oro and in Sebright, Rama Twp where John died. Almost all of the first generation and much of the next generation are buried at the Knox Presbyterian Cemetery on 9th line of Oro Medonte.
I hope this rings some bells for you
Sincerely
Anne McNabb Farrar
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Re: McNabb family of Ballychatrigan and Lyrabus
Hi Carolyn
My McNabb family arrived in Oro Township, Simcoe County, Ontario between 1832 and about 1850. The parents were Andrew McNabb b.1877 and Catherine McMath (Matheson) b. 1879. They married in Kildalton on February 27, 1802 and had numerous children, many of whom emigrated to join the family in Ontario.
My 2x great grandfather was John McNabb b. abt 1816. He arrived last as far as I can tell with his wife Mary (surname unconfirmed) I know little about them and wonder if you can help point me in the right direction. From the Census and available BMD info I can find them living in Oro and in Sebright, Rama Twp where John died. Almost all of the first generation and much of the next generation are buried at the Knox Presbyterian Cemetery on 9th line of Oro Medonte.
I hope this rings some bells for you
Sincerely
Anne McNabb Farrar
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I will happily look at whatever you’ve got! Can’t wait to dig into that Rootsweb page. Is this the same one the other gal said was defunct?
Much appreciated🙏🏻
Shelley
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M. Diane Rogers
We do have a wiki for this group with a short list of recommended websites. Happy to add more.
Diane R Islay List admin
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M. Diane Rogers
Some of the links go to the Internet Archive but most of the data is preserved there.
Diane R
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