Thank you, Sue.

This is a great piece of work. It makes me wonder if we could compile or find other records for Ballachatrigan farm in the same format for earlier years.  I am looking for 1780's - 1840.  My Cameron family group  is not listed in this chart which means that at some point before 1839, they moved.  I do know that one of them who was born at the farm was the sheriff and living in Port Ellen.

What position did the weaver have at the farm?  Did he also work the land, or earn his living by using the wool to make textiles?  Did the farm have some sheep at this point? I don't know when the clearances began on Islay. Also,  was the shoemaker an employee rather than a tenant?  What role did the 'smith' play?  I presume this is the "blacksmith."

Also, what does the term "cottar" mean?

By the way, do you have this chart in another format? I couldn't print it. I will construct an Excel document, if necessary.

Donald Young

Perhaps this might help McNabb hunters:  1839 Population of Balchatrigin (This is part of a file of Oa tenants that was sent to me a number of years ago and to my shame I did not record who gave it to me .... Roger McWee????  This looks like your quality of excellent work.)

My sincere apologies.

Sue Visser

 

ID	Farm	Tenant	Occupation	Wife	Sons	Daughter	G-son	G-Daughter	Father in Law	Mother in Law	Brother	Son in Law	Sister	Brother in Law	Niece	Cousin	Nephew	Father	Mother	Grand Mother	Servant	Aunt	Total	Information

 

1	BALCHATRIGIN	Alexander Graham	Tenant	1	-	2																	4
2	BALCHATRIGIN	Duncan Graham	Tenant	1	2	4																	8	Son of the above tenant living in a separate house and possessing a share of his fathers land, all the family at home
3	BALCHATRIGIN	Angus McNab	Weaver	1	2	2																	6	All living at home
4	BALCHATRIGIN	Duncan Graham - Senior	Tenant	1																	1		3	1 male servant.
5	BALCHATRIGIN	Duncan McAllum	Shoemaker	1	2	5																	9	All at home.
6	BALCHATRIGIN	Donald Smith	Cottar	1	1	1		1															5
7	BALCHATRIGIN	Duncan McNab	Tenant	1	6	3																	5	Eldest son possesses part of his land, in a separated house, the other son is a workman in Cornabus and 2 sons are in the low Country, 1 at home and the other a Cartwright & 2 at home. 3 daughters, 2 in the Low Country, 1 married and 1 at Svc, on at home.
8	BALCHATRIGIN	John McNab	Tenant	1		1																	3	Above mentioned.
9	BALCHATRIGIN	Andrew McNab	Tenant	1	3	3 & 1 dau-in-law				1													10	All at home.
10	BALCHATRIGIN	John McDougall	Weaver	1									1 (deaf & dumb)										3
11	BALCHATRIGIN	Dugald Mathieson	Tenant	1	7	2																		3 sons are married, eldest possesses part of his land at Stremnich, second is a Weaver/Cottar to his father and 3rd a Tailor, 4th & 5th Shoemakers the last at School, 2 daughters 1 at Svc in Low Country the other at home and 1 illegitimate grand daughter.
12	BALCHATRIGIN	Niel Mathieson	Weaver/Cottar	1		1																	3
13	BALCHATRIGIN	Duncan Graham - Junior	Tenant	1	2	1																	5	All at home.
14	BALCHATRIGIN	Duncan McNab	Weaver/Cottar	1	1	2																	5
15	BALCHATRIGIN	Hugh McArthur	Tenant	1	2	4																	8	All at home.
16	BALCHATRIGIN	Alexander McCuaig	Smith	1	3																		5	All at home. This man is Smith to the farms around but has his Cow grass from this Tenant.
17	BALCHATRIGIN	Duncan Morrison's widow	Tenant		1	1				1													4
18	BALCHATRIGIN	John McNab	Tenant	1	4	2																	8	All at home.
19	BALCHATRIGIN	John Gilchrist	Tenant	1	4	6							1										12	The eldest son at Svc in the Low Country and the rest at Home
20	BALCHATRIGIN	Peter Graham	Tenant	1	2	1											1		1				7
21	BALCHATRIGIN	Alexander McNab	Tenant	1	4	4																	8	Eldest son at Svc & Eldest daughter in the Low Country.

My ancestor, Mary McNabb and her sister Catherine were baptised on  October 19 1792 and registered as "daughters to Peter McNabb Lyrabus".  On the same page in the Register on September 15 is "Margaret, daughter to Andrew McNabb Ballychatrigan".  Is this of any help?

Hi all,

Heather Griffin here.
Places and people I'm intermittently researching
Corsapol/Carsable, Kilchoman  - Malcolm McTaggart, Gilbert McTaggart (1795-abt 1834)
Lurabus , Oa - Peter McNabb, Mary Campbell, Mary McNabb (1794-18720)
Tacarmican/Tighcarmagan, Kildalton - Thomas Calder (1727-1802) Mary Dougall
Port Ellen, Kildalton - William Calder (1776-1851) m Martha Calder (1781- ), James Calder (1806-1876) m Flora Ann McTaggart, John Calder (1814-1877) m Margaret McTaggart, Martha Calder (1856 - 1932)

NOTE:  These McTaggarts are the Kilchoman McTaggarts not the Oa McTaggarts

Hi Ken;

Thank you for your reply.  The first name of the father of Ann McNabb as Peter may be incorrect.  I don't have anything to verify it.

What is interesting is that I have a Margaret MacVorran who married a Duncan Cameron in 1809. She is the second wife for him.   Their son was Hugh Cameron who married Ann or Nancy McNabb in 1826.  Ann was born about 1794.  She might be a daughter of Donald and sister of Duncan, or a niece of Donald whose father was a Peter McNabb.  I don't know to verify any of this.

Do you know how many families lived at Ballychatrigan in the 1770's - 1830, or have any history of the farm operation?

Blessings,

Donald Young

Donald,

I can not match any of your info directly, but I do have connections in my McNabbs in Ontario with some Youngs.

More importantly, I have a direct ancestral line to McNabbs on Ballychatrigin in the mid 1790s.  My great was Duncan McNabb, b c1795, who married Grace McVoran or Morrison in 1816.  Duncan’s father is reputed to have been Donald McNabb in Ballychatrigin. 

An old family record lists the sons of Donald as Duncan c1795, John c1797, Donald c1805 & Alexander c1805.  There is a later family writing suggesting a sister Margaret c1805.  I have not come across Ann or Peter.

There were several families of tenant farmers on Ballchatrigin at that time, mostly McNabbs and Morrisons.  They may not have been related to each other, but there is a good chance they were, and that your Ann was a sister of my group above, or at least a cousin.

Do we have enough to look into here?

Ken Harrison

Vancouver, BC

 

From: Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io <Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io> On Behalf Of Donald Young
Sent: January 10, 2022 6:40 PM
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Subject: Re: [Islay] Roll Call ?

I have an Ann (Nancy) McNabb born about 1794, whose father was Peter? McNabb.  They were from the Ballychatrigan farm. She married Hugh Cameron from Ballychatrigan farm in 1826.  Is this of any help?  I seem to be stuck here. I can't get back any further. I am a descendant of Ann and Hugh.

Thanks

Donald Young 

On 2022-01-10 1:57 p.m., Anne Farrar wrote:

I have already posted here but on reading other posts I thought I'd be more specific.
I believe my McNabb ancestors came from Lurabus and Ballychatrigan in the Oa.
Andrew McNabb b1777 likely had the following names in his ancestry: Alexander, Duncan, Finlay Robert James and John because these names appear for males for the next 3 generations in our family. I would like to find his parents.
I have no information on his wife Catherine McMath (Mattheson) b. circa 1779 other that her birth and death dates from her gravestone in Knox Presbyterian Cemetary in Oro Medonte Township Simcoe County, Ontario. .
My brick wall is the wife of John McNabb (son of Andrew & Catherine b. circa 1816). From Mary's gravestone she was likely born circa 1824 on Islay and died in 1871 in Oro Township, Simcoe County, Ontario. I want to find her maiden name and parentage.
The OPR's for Kildalton Parish were destroyed by water and mold between about 1765 and 1790 so tracing ancestry is tough. Also for whatever reason Andrew and Catherine did not register the births of their children with the church. Only Finlay born 1813 actually lists both Andrew and his wife as parents.

Thanks, Anne (McNabb) Farrar

I have an Ann (Nancy) McNabb born about 1794, whose father was Peter? McNabb.  They were from the Ballychatrigan farm. She married Hugh Cameron from Ballychatrigan farm in 1826.  Is this of any help?  I seem to be stuck here. I can't get back any further. I am a descendant of Ann and Hugh.

Thanks

Donald Young 

I have already posted here but on reading other posts I thought I'd be more specific.
I believe my McNabb ancestors came from Lurabus and Ballychatrigan in the Oa.
Andrew McNabb b1777 likely had the following names in his ancestry: Alexander, Duncan, Finlay Robert James and John because these names appear for males for the next 3 generations in our family. I would like to find his parents.
I have no information on his wife Catherine McMath (Mattheson) b. circa 1779 other that her birth and death dates from her gravestone in Knox Presbyterian Cemetary in Oro Medonte Township Simcoe County, Ontario. .
My brick wall is the wife of John McNabb (son of Andrew & Catherine b. circa 1816). From Mary's gravestone she was likely born circa 1824 on Islay and died in 1871 in Oro Township, Simcoe County, Ontario. I want to find her maiden name and parentage.
The OPR's for Kildalton Parish were destroyed by water and mold between about 1765 and 1790 so tracing ancestry is tough. Also for whatever reason Andrew and Catherine did not register the births of their children with the church. Only Finlay born 1813 actually lists both Andrew and his wife as parents.

Thanks, Anne (McNabb) Farrar

Johan,

I have already posted here but on reading other posts I thought I'd be more specific.
I believe my McNabb ancestors came from Lurabus and Ballychatrigan in the Oa.
Andrew McNabb b1777 likely had the following names in his ancestry: Alexander, Duncan, Finlay Robert James and John because these names appear for males for the next 3 generations in our family. I would like to find his parents.
I have no information on his wife Catherine McMath (Mattheson) b. circa 1779 other that her birth and death dates from her gravestone in Knox Presbyterian Cemetary in Oro Medonte Township Simcoe County, Ontario. .
My brick wall is the wife of John McNabb (son of Andrew & Catherine b. circa 1816). From Mary's gravestone she was likely born circa 1824 on Islay and died in 1871 in Oro Township, Simcoe County, Ontario. I want to find her maiden name and parentage.
The OPR's for Kildalton Parish were destroyed by water and mold between about 1765 and 1790 so tracing ancestry is tough. Also for whatever reason Andrew and Catherine did not register the births of their children with the church. Only Finlay born 1813 actually lists both Andrew and his wife as parents.

Thanks, Anne (McNabb) Farrar

My 2xggrandmother was Anne KEITH, b. 1805 Corary (farm), Parish of Bowmore, Kilarrow, Upper Corary

Her father was George KEITH 1778, Loggan, Bowmore, Argyll, Scotland

His father was George KEITH Abt. 1751 Bowmore, Islay, Argyll, Scotland

No Maria amongst them.

My best,

Malcolm CAMPBELL

Johan,

Might you have any information on Maria ‘Flora’ Keith, b.May 15, 1819, Islay. This is the only Islay family information I have. She married James McIlroy in Glasgow abt. 1844. So whether the Keith family remained on island or moved to Glasgow, I don’t know.
I should add that the family was Roman Catholic.

It’s by James Hunnter who has written many good books about the Hebrides, and articles too, I remember one he wrote about a moment of conflict between the free Church and the Church of Scotland where islander were being forbidden from attending their church on land (in parishes) and they stood in the water out of solidarity to their Free Church. If I come across it I’ll send you the reference.