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Re: Hugh Stewart

Iain MacIntosh
 

Sorry, must get my fingers seen to.. or my keyboard! Some Campbeltown records seem to be missing or had been destroyed. I have the same problem with my GG grandfather. No record of death and no gravestone. Last noted in the 1881 census , but his widow living with her daughter on Gigha in the 1891 census. So missing death register sometime between 1881 - 1891. My brickwall!

Iain

-----Original Message-----
From: Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io <Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io> On Behalf Of lola.cook@...
Sent: 05 February 2022 21:11
To: Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io
Subject: [Islay] Hugh Stewart

Hugh is my paternal grandfather and my brick wall. I have researched his family, siblings, army career (Chelsea Pensioner), marriage, but then he disappears and I can’t find him in any further census records or his death. I need some help and hope someone out there can do so!
Father - John Stewart b. 1812, Kilmore, Islay - Died btw Nov 1866 & Jan 1869
His parents Alexander Stewart & Effy McPherson Mother - Mary McCaig b. 1816, Bowmore, Islay - Died Dec,,. 2,1872 Bowmore
Her parents Donald McCaig & Betsy Brown

Siblings: Robert Stewart - b. 1844, Kilchoman - Died Oct 10, 1870 Bowmore Poorhouse
Spouse - Isabella McFadyen, Renfrew, Scotland
Marriage - Nov 30, 1866 - Glasgow

Hugh Stewart - b. Aug 1846, Easdale Died ??
Spouse - Catherine McEwing - b. 1857 to 1921 Campbeltown
Marriage - Dec. 1, 1885 Campbeltown
Her parents - Joseph McEwing & Mary Wallace

John Stewart - b.1848, Portree, Inverness - Died June 22,1878 - Glasgow
Spouse - Margaret McCaffer 1848-1881
Marriage - June 3,1870 Calton, Glasgow

Mary Stewart - b. 1852 Kildalton, Islay
Died - Jan 10, 1869 Bowmore

Susan Stewart - b. 1854 Bowmore. Died May 5,1893, Glasgow
Spouse - Gilbert Boyd (1851-1880) Marriage Oct 22, 1873
Spouse - Daniel McAleese

Hugh Stewart’s Army Career - At age 17 he enlisted on June 23, 1864 at Greenock. He was a Private in the 73rd Foot Regiment -Service number 1094 Served in Ceylon and the Far East, and Ireland. Discharged Nov. 6, 1876 on Medical Discharge as he had many bouts of phthisis
(Tuberculosis….as had many of his family members). He stated on his discharge that his intended place of residence would be at 57 Hill Rd. Calton, Glascow. He worked as Masons
Labourer and went to Campbeltown to work on a Lairds Estate. Catherine worked there s milkmaid. She was pregnant by Hugh when they married on Dec. 1, 1885. My father, Robert McEwing Stewart was born on July 25, 1886. Hugh does not seem to be there at this time and I can’t find anything more about him….no census records or death notice, Catherine reverted back to her maiden name “McEwing” and Robert became just Robert McEwing.

So that is as far as I’ve been able to go. I would certainly appreciate any help or suggestions to see if I can solve this mystery!

Thank you!
Lola Cook


Re: Hugh Stewart

Iain MacIntosh
 

Hi Lola
Some Campbeltown records seem to be missing or had been destroyed. I have the same problem with my GG grandfather. No record of death and no gravestone. Last noted in the 181 census , but his widow living with her daughter on Gigha in the 1991 census. So missing death register sometime between 1881 - 1891. My brickwall!

Iain MacIntosh

-----Original Message-----
From: Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io <Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io> On Behalf Of lola.cook@...
Sent: 05 February 2022 21:11
To: Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io
Subject: [Islay] Hugh Stewart

Hugh is my paternal grandfather and my brick wall. I have researched his family, siblings, army career (Chelsea Pensioner), marriage, but then he disappears and I can’t find him in any further census records or his death. I need some help and hope someone out there can do so!
Father - John Stewart b. 1812, Kilmore, Islay - Died btw Nov 1866 & Jan 1869
His parents Alexander Stewart & Effy McPherson Mother - Mary McCaig b. 1816, Bowmore, Islay - Died Dec,,. 2,1872 Bowmore
Her parents Donald McCaig & Betsy Brown

Siblings: Robert Stewart - b. 1844, Kilchoman - Died Oct 10, 1870 Bowmore Poorhouse
Spouse - Isabella McFadyen, Renfrew, Scotland
Marriage - Nov 30, 1866 - Glasgow

Hugh Stewart - b. Aug 1846, Easdale Died ??
Spouse - Catherine McEwing - b. 1857 to 1921 Campbeltown
Marriage - Dec. 1, 1885 Campbeltown
Her parents - Joseph McEwing & Mary Wallace

John Stewart - b.1848, Portree, Inverness - Died June 22,1878 - Glasgow
Spouse - Margaret McCaffer 1848-1881
Marriage - June 3,1870 Calton, Glasgow

Mary Stewart - b. 1852 Kildalton, Islay
Died - Jan 10, 1869 Bowmore

Susan Stewart - b. 1854 Bowmore. Died May 5,1893, Glasgow
Spouse - Gilbert Boyd (1851-1880) Marriage Oct 22, 1873
Spouse - Daniel McAleese

Hugh Stewart’s Army Career - At age 17 he enlisted on June 23, 1864 at Greenock. He was a Private in the 73rd Foot Regiment -Service number 1094 Served in Ceylon and the Far East, and Ireland. Discharged Nov. 6, 1876 on Medical Discharge as he had many bouts of phthisis
(Tuberculosis….as had many of his family members). He stated on his discharge that his intended place of residence would be at 57 Hill Rd. Calton, Glascow. He worked as Masons
Labourer and went to Campbeltown to work on a Lairds Estate. Catherine worked there s milkmaid. She was pregnant by Hugh when they married on Dec. 1, 1885. My father, Robert McEwing Stewart was born on July 25, 1886. Hugh does not seem to be there at this time and I can’t find anything more about him….no census records or death notice, Catherine reverted back to her maiden name “McEwing” and Robert became just Robert McEwing.

So that is as far as I’ve been able to go. I would certainly appreciate any help or suggestions to see if I can solve this mystery!

Thank you!
Lola Cook


Hugh Stewart

lola.cook@shaw.ca
 

Hugh is my paternal grandfather and my brick wall. I have researched his family, siblings, army career (Chelsea Pensioner), marriage, but then he disappears and I can’t find him in any further census records or his death. I need some help and hope someone out there can do so!
Father - John Stewart b. 1812, Kilmore, Islay - Died btw Nov 1866 & Jan 1869
His parents Alexander Stewart & Effy McPherson
Mother - Mary McCaig b. 1816, Bowmore, Islay - Died Dec,,. 2,1872 Bowmore
Her parents Donald McCaig & Betsy Brown

Siblings: Robert Stewart - b. 1844, Kilchoman - Died Oct 10, 1870 Bowmore Poorhouse
Spouse - Isabella McFadyen, Renfrew, Scotland
Marriage - Nov 30, 1866 - Glasgow

Hugh Stewart - b. Aug 1846, Easdale Died ??
Spouse - Catherine McEwing - b. 1857 to 1921 Campbeltown
Marriage - Dec. 1, 1885 Campbeltown
Her parents - Joseph McEwing & Mary Wallace

John Stewart - b.1848, Portree, Inverness - Died June 22,1878 - Glasgow
Spouse - Margaret McCaffer 1848-1881
Marriage - June 3,1870 Calton, Glasgow

Mary Stewart - b. 1852 Kildalton, Islay
Died - Jan 10, 1869 Bowmore

Susan Stewart - b. 1854 Bowmore. Died May 5,1893, Glasgow
Spouse - Gilbert Boyd (1851-1880) Marriage Oct 22, 1873
Spouse - Daniel McAleese

Hugh Stewart’s Army Career - At age 17 he enlisted on June 23, 1864 at Greenock. He was a Private in the 73rd Foot Regiment -Service number 1094 Served in Ceylon and the Far East, and Ireland. Discharged Nov. 6, 1876 on Medical Discharge as he had many bouts of phthisis
(Tuberculosis….as had many of his family members). He stated on his discharge that his intended place of residence would be at 57 Hill Rd. Calton, Glascow. He worked as Masons
Labourer and went to Campbeltown to work on a Lairds Estate. Catherine worked there s milkmaid. She was pregnant by Hugh when they married on Dec. 1, 1885. My father, Robert McEwing Stewart was born on July 25, 1886. Hugh does not seem to be there at this time and I can’t find anything more about him….no census records or death notice, Catherine reverted back to her maiden name “McEwing” and Robert became just Robert McEwing.

So that is as far as I’ve been able to go. I would certainly appreciate any help or suggestions to see if I can solve this mystery!

Thank you!
Lola Cook


Re: Roll Call ?

Dixie Cutler
 

Hi Lola,

Not sure I can help with your mystery - I suspect vanishing men were not all that uncommon!

My tree has two Mary McCaig. One born on Colonsay to Lachlan (born Islay in 1809) who married Hugh John McColl on Colonsay and one born 1898 at Dunoon to Angus, son of Lachlan.

There is every possibility that we link a bit earlier. Records are a bit sketchy (maybe it was the distilleries?).

I will keep on the lookout.

Best
Dixie

On Jan 23, 2022, at 12:15 PM, lola.cook@... wrote:

Hi Dixie,
I think we are somehow related through McCaig…..but I lost track of you. I still haven’t found out what happened to my paternal grandfather Hugh Stewart. His parents were John Stewart and Mary McCaig on Islay. I have done research and know all about hie parents, his siblings, Robert (who died in Bowmore Poorhouse), John, Mary (died age 15 of TB), Susan.
Both Robert & John were in the Police force in Glasgow. Hugh joined the army at age 17 and served in India and other places. He was in long enough to earn a Chelsea Pension. He was a Mason’s Labourer and worked on a Laird’s estate in Campbeltown. Here he met Catherine McEwing, a dairymaid; got her pregnant and he was hauled up by her family to be married in Campbeltown on Dec. 1, 1885. He seems to disappear after that and she has my father, Robert McEwing Stewart in July 1886. I’ve tried census, death, Chelsea Pension hospitals but can find no trace of Hugh….so he’s my brick wall!!
Can you fill in any gaps or have any information on him at all…..or any clues where I should look now?? Would appreciate any help!!
Cheers!
Lola

On Jan 23, 2022, at 11:58 AM, Dixie Cutler <dixcutler@...> wrote:


My Islay names are McArthur, McNeil, McCaig (McCoag, McCuag - take your pick!).
Dixie Cutler










Re: Roll Call ?

GREG FERGUSON
 

My Islay Ancestor Surnames are:

Ferguson ,  Adair,  McArthur, Gillespie, Hyndman

others believed connected or associated with them

Whyte / White, McAlpine, Jamieson, Sweet, Grant, Cameron, McMillan, Taylor, McLachlan, Currie 

came from Islay around  1845 - 1851 to Oro, Simcoe, Ontario, Canada




On Sunday, January 23, 2022, 01:58:34 p.m. CST, Dixie Cutler <dixcutler@...> wrote:



My Islay names are McArthur, McNeil, McCaig (McCoag, McCuag - take your pick!).
Dixie Cutler







Re: Roll Call ?

lola.cook@shaw.ca
 

Hi Dixie,
I think we are somehow related through McCaig…..but I lost track of you. I still haven’t found out what happened to my paternal grandfather Hugh Stewart. His parents were John Stewart and Mary McCaig on Islay. I have done research and know all about hie parents, his siblings, Robert (who died in Bowmore Poorhouse), John, Mary (died age 15 of TB), Susan.
Both Robert & John were in the Police force in Glasgow. Hugh joined the army at age 17 and served in India and other places. He was in long enough to earn a Chelsea Pension. He was a Mason’s Labourer and worked on a Laird’s estate in Campbeltown. Here he met Catherine McEwing, a dairymaid; got her pregnant and he was hauled up by her family to be married in Campbeltown on Dec. 1, 1885. He seems to disappear after that and she has my father, Robert McEwing Stewart in July 1886. I’ve tried census, death, Chelsea Pension hospitals but can find no trace of Hugh….so he’s my brick wall!!
Can you fill in any gaps or have any information on him at all…..or any clues where I should look now?? Would appreciate any help!!
Cheers!
Lola

On Jan 23, 2022, at 11:58 AM, Dixie Cutler <dixcutler@...> wrote:


My Islay names are McArthur, McNeil, McCaig (McCoag, McCuag - take your pick!).
Dixie Cutler






Re: Roll Call ?

Dixie Cutler
 

My Islay names are McArthur, McNeil, McCaig (McCoag, McCuag - take your pick!).
Dixie Cutler


Re: Roll Call ?

Anne Lyon
 

My Islay family names are:  McPhee/McFee/Mcfie,  Shanks,  Campbell, Ferguson.
My great great grandfather was John McPhee married to Ann Shanks, he was a gardener at Islay House, probably in early to mid 1880’s.  


Re: Roll Call ?

doris sanders
 

Left out Isobel Dallas married Duncan McKerrell, apparently died at Port Ellen, but
husband and family emigrated to Alabama, USA, between 1851 and 1860.

On Sun, Jan 16, 2022 at 11:45 AM doris sanders via groups.io <dorisbsanders=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
Doris Barfield Sanders, Poolville, Texas, USA, and my family from Islay goes back
to Alexander Dallas , baptized 21 Dec 1789, Grastle (Grasdil, Ghraisdil, and perhaps
other spellings), the Oa, son of William Dallas and Margaret Baxter. He emigrated
to the USA (first South Carolina, then North Carolina and last to Alabama), in 1820.
Siblings were:  Jannet "Jessy" who married John McQuilkan 3 Apr 1817;
Peter born 16 Jan 1791, died in Glasgow 20 Jun 1872, buried Kilnaughton, the Oa;
Elizabeth "Betty" who married Hugh Cameron emigrated to Ontario, Canada, 1851;
William who married Rachel McTaggert and emigrated to Alabama; Dougald and Margaret of whom nothing is
known.


Re: Roll Call ?

doris sanders
 

Doris Barfield Sanders, Poolville, Texas, USA, and my family from Islay goes back
to Alexander Dallas , baptized 21 Dec 1789, Grastle (Grasdil, Ghraisdil, and perhaps
other spellings), the Oa, son of William Dallas and Margaret Baxter. He emigrated
to the USA (first South Carolina, then North Carolina and last to Alabama), in 1820.
Siblings were:  Jannet "Jessy" who married John McQuilkan 3 Apr 1817;
Peter born 16 Jan 1791, died in Glasgow 20 Jun 1872, buried Kilnaughton, the Oa;
Elizabeth "Betty" who married Hugh Cameron emigrated to Ontario, Canada, 1851;
William who married Rachel McTaggert and emigrated to Alabama; Dougald and Margaret of whom nothing is
known.


finding messages previously shared on this site

Sue Visser
 

Doris Sanders asked that “the complete file from OA 1839” be sent again.  This is something that each member can do for themselves without something being sent again.
 
I suspect our Admin, M. Diane Rogers, must be away otherwise she would have shared the following. 
 
The “Home” for this list is https://scotland-genealogy.groups.io/g/Islay.  This is where you sign in for to join (and to change/update your email address).  It’s a site you really should visit since there are other goodies there.  Sign in with the email you joined with and then check out the folders.
 
For example, previous posts:  go to “Messages” – that’s where you’ll find that 1839 post.
 
A more valuable folder to check is “Photos” where there are many valuable shared files – for example, the full Rent Roll for Kildalton, 1733.
 
Perhaps you want to email another member off list who you’ve connected with in your family research?  That’s under “Directory”.
 
Have fun!
Happy hunting,
Sue Visser, Ontario, Canada


farmers census 1839

doris sanders
 

Would the person who posted the 1839 farmers census of 
Islay, please do so again?  I tried to download it and lost it
instead. So much for 82 year old hands, eyes, or-ordination
and other stuff. Doris Barfield Sanders


Re: [EXT] Re: [Islay] Roll Call ? Taylor and Gillis Families

Susan Duerst
 

S K, 
My Taylor and Gillis ancestors arrived in 1738 and eventually settled on the Argyle Patent.  I believe they initially settled on the Kakiat Patent near what is now Tappan, NY.  I have not been able to find much information about their time on the Kakiat Patent or their time in Scotland.  I've found a hint that Duncan Taylor may have come from Fentalich, Comrie Parish, Perthshire, but have no information to support that my Duncan Taylor was one of the residents of Fentalich.  I don't know who Duncan's parents are.  I believe that Duncan's wife is Mary Gillis, daughter of Alexander Gillis and Elizabeth Sutherland.  Alexander died before the 1738 voyage.  Elizabeth and some of her children sailed with her daughter and Duncan to New York.  She appears to have died before the move to the Argyle Patent.  

I'm interested in learning more about their lives prior to the move to the Argyle Patent.  I would appreciate suggestions about possible sources.  Thank you for any help you can provide.


Re: [EXT] Re: [EXT] Re: [Islay] Roll Call ?

Judith Jeon-Chapman
 

Shelly,

I am very interested in receiving any information that you have about this community and about where they came from.  My email is jjeonchapman@... 

Judy

On Jan 13, 2022, at 11:11 AM, S K <Snjmk318@...> wrote:

Judy,

I have done a lot of research on the Argyle Patent, mostly the first trip in 1738. There were three in total, ‘39 and ‘40. They landed up upstate NY and moved about the area. My group ended up in Claverack and Kinderhook. Let me know if you need some resources about this.

Shelley


On Jan 13, 2022, at 9:06 AM, Judith Jeon-Chapman <jjeonchapman@...> wrote:


I also have family living on the Argyle patent: the McDougalls and the Walkers, but I can't find where the Walkers come from. Duncan McDougall and his wife, Janet Calder, came to the Argyle Patent in 1739.  Lists of the Argyle settlers show he arrived in 1739 with wife Janet Calder, and children John, Alexander, Ronald, Dugald, and Margaret. He is still listed with 5 children in 1764.

I have not been able to find information about Janet Calder's parents, and have found very little about where the McDougall family came from exactly.

The Walkers are a complete mystery.  I assume that they are Scottish.  John Alexander Walker was born 17 Sep 1825 in East Greenwich, abutting Argyle, NY.  His parents were Daniel Walker (03 Nov 1790-07 Nov 1841; birthplace and parents unknown) and Jane McDougall (16 May 1795-25 Apr 1838) whose parents were John McDougall (04 Apr 1753-08 Apr 1813, son of Alexander and Catherine McDonnel) and Elizabeth Beatty (28 May 1757-11 Apr 1820, daughter of Capt. James Beatty (Rev. army) and Huguenot, Catherine DeGersey/Jersey (another mystery person).  

Any information about any of these people would be greatly appreciated, especially where the McDougalls and Walkers came from exactly.  Were there Walkers in Islay?

Judy

On Thu, Jan 13, 2022 at 8:05 AM S K <Snjmk318@...> wrote:
No, my people sailed to New York from Islay with Captain Campbell in 1738 on the Argyle Patent. Names were Neal McArthur, Mary Campbell and their children, John, Charles, and Christine. I’m sure they left family behind in Islay, but without more details on them pre-1738, I don’t know how to identity other family. Once they land in America, I can trace their movements fairly easily, all the way to Canada after the Revolutionary War, and up to these current generations of myself and my son. 

Shelley


On Jan 13, 2022, at 2:45 AM, J LOCHRIDGE via groups.io <j.lochridge=btinternet.com@groups.io> wrote:


SK

Do your people not appear on Passengers from Islay November 1740? Image 112

Johan




------ Original Message ------
From: "S K" <Snjmk318@...>
To: Islay@scotland-genealogy.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, 13 Jan, 22 At 09:18
Subject: Re: [Islay] Roll Call ?


Thank you so much for posting this. I’m afraid I’m. Not finding my people.

Best wishes,

Shelley

On Jan 13, 2022, at 1:56 AM, J LOCHRIDGE via groups.io <j.lochridge=btinternet.com@groups.io> wrote:


Oops Sorry SK. It must be too early this morning!

Johan




------ Original Message ------
From: "S K" <Snjmk318@...>
To: Islay@scotland-genealogy.groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, 12 Jan, 22 At 20:24
Subject: Re: [Islay] Roll Call ?

Omg! YES PLEASE!!🙏🏻

Thank you so much,

Shelley


On Jan 12, 2022, at 1:23 PM, J LOCHRIDGE via groups.io <j.lochridge=btinternet.com@groups.io> wrote:


SK,

I have a short list of 6 Ardtalla rentals from 1733 . Let me know if you would like me to note them for you, or maybe even take pics for you

Regards

Johan




------ Original Message ------
From: "S K" <Snjmk318@...>
To: Islay@scotland-genealogy.groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, 12 Jan, 22 At 20:03
Subject: Re: [Islay] Roll Call ?

My goodness!! I wish I could find something like this for Ardtalla(y) on Islay!
Great find!!


On Jan 11, 2022, at 9:02 PM, Sue Visser <genealgal2@...> wrote:


Perhaps this might help McNabb hunters: 1839 Population of Balchatrigin (This is part of a file of Oa tenants that was sent to me a number of years ago and to my shame I did not record who gave it to me .... Roger McWee???? This looks like your quality of excellent work.)
My sincere apologies.
Sue Visser

ID

Farm

Tenant

Occupation

Wife

Sons

Daughter

G-son

G-Daughter

Father in Law

Mother in Law

Brother

Son in Law

Sister

Brother in Law

Niece

Cousin

Nephew

Father

Mother

Grand Mother

Servant

Aunt

Total

Information

1

BALCHATRIGIN

Alexander Graham

Tenant

1

-

2

4

2

BALCHATRIGIN

Duncan Graham

Tenant

1

2

4

8

Son of the above tenant living in a separate house and possessing a share of his fathers land, all the family at home

3

BALCHATRIGIN

Angus McNab

Weaver

1

2

2

6

All living at home

4

BALCHATRIGIN

Duncan Graham - Senior

Tenant

1

1

3

1 male servant.

5

BALCHATRIGIN

Duncan McAllum

Shoemaker

1

2

5

9

All at home.

6

BALCHATRIGIN

Donald Smith

Cottar

1

1

1

1

5

7

BALCHATRIGIN

Duncan McNab

Tenant

1

6

3

5

Eldest son possesses part of his land, in a separated house, the other son is a workman in Cornabus and 2 sons are in the low Country, 1 at home and the other a Cartwright & 2 at home. 3 daughters, 2 in the Low Country, 1 married and 1 at Svc, on at home.

8

BALCHATRIGIN

John McNab

Tenant

1

1

3

Above mentioned.

9

BALCHATRIGIN

Andrew McNab

Tenant

1

3

3 & 1 dau-in-law

1

10

All at home.

10

BALCHATRIGIN

John McDougall

Weaver

1

1 (deaf & dumb)

3

11

BALCHATRIGIN

Dugald Mathieson

Tenant

1

7

2

3 sons are married, eldest possesses part of his land at Stremnich, second is a Weaver/Cottar to his father and 3rd a Tailor, 4th & 5th Shoemakers the last at School, 2 daughters 1 at Svc in Low Country the other at home and 1 illegitimate grand daughter.

12

BALCHATRIGIN

Niel Mathieson

Weaver/Cottar

1

1

3

13

BALCHATRIGIN

Duncan Graham - Junior

Tenant

1

2

1

5

All at home.

14

BALCHATRIGIN

Duncan McNab

Weaver/Cottar

1

1

2

5

15

BALCHATRIGIN

Hugh McArthur

Tenant

1

2

4

8

All at home.

16

BALCHATRIGIN

Alexander McCuaig

Smith

1

3

5

All at home. This man is Smith to the farms around but has his Cow grass from this Tenant.

17

BALCHATRIGIN

Duncan Morrison's widow

Tenant

1

1

1

4

18

BALCHATRIGIN

John McNab

Tenant

1

4

2

8

All at home.

19

BALCHATRIGIN

John Gilchrist

Tenant

1

4

6

1

12

The eldest son at Svc in the Low Country and the rest at Home

20

BALCHATRIGIN

Peter Graham

Tenant

1

2

1

1

1

7

21

BALCHATRIGIN

Alexander McNab

Tenant

1

4

4

8

Eldest son at Svc & Eldest daughter in the Low Country.








Re: the complete file from OA 1839

Donald Young
 

Thank you.

This Hugh Cameron is a different Hugh Cameron than the one I am descended from.  It was a common name that was widely used.

Blessings,

Donald Young

On 2022-01-12 9:42 p.m., doris sanders wrote:
I am using the 1841 census as my reference along with a long list  of references to Hugh Cameron, son of Lachlan Cameron, being connected to Grastle. Hugh from Grastle, born about 1784, married Elizabeth “Betty” Dallas. They emigrated to Woodville, Ontario, Canada, shortly after the 1851 census which lists them at Grastle.  On the 1841, Margaret Baxter Dallas is still living with them, her husband  William ( my error, Alexander was their oldest son) having died January 10, 1841, at Grastle.  William Dallas also has a long connection to  Grastle as all his children were baptized with that reference.  Margaret Baxter Dallas died 20 June 1843 at Grastle.. If you desire I can provide a long list dating from 1600s of the Dallas connection to Grastle. Doris Barfield Sanders


On Jan 12, 2022, at 5:11 PM, Donald Young <donaldandkaren@...> wrote:



Hi Doris;

I am curious about your reference to Hugh Cameron.  First, please verify we are dealing with the same person. What source do you have for Alexander Dallas and Margaret Baxter Dallas.  The Hugh I mentioned was married to Nancy McNabb.  I question if we are indeed referring to the same person.

Thank you.
D. Young
On 2022-01-12 5:57 p.m., doris sanders wrote:
Sue Visser, the message I sent prematurely is in regards the 1839 farm census
 and should read William Dallas and wife Margaret Baxter of Grastle. Sorry.

On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 4:02 PM doris sanders via groups.io <dorisbsanders=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
Thanks, Sue Visser. The household of Hugh Cameron included his father-in-law and mother-in-law, Alexander Dallas and Margaret Baxter Dallas. 
I don't know if the granddaughters were Hugh's or Alexander's.

On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 3:16 PM Sue Visser <genealgal2@...> wrote:
In discussion with Ken Harrison re difficulty in see the complete file I found another way to share the file.  This is all of the file I have for the 1839 OA.  Ken found he could copy/paste what is below into an Excel file and get it in entirety.
Happy hunting,
Sue Visser

ID

Farm

Tenant

Occupation

Wife

Sons

Daughter

G-son

G-Daughter

Father in Law

Mother in Law

Brother

Son in Law

Sister

Brother in Law

Niece

Cousin

Nephew

Father

Mother

Grand Mother

Servant

Aunt

Total

Information

1

BALCHATRIGIN

Alexander Graham

Tenant

1

-

2

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

4

 

2

BALCHATRIGIN

Duncan Graham

Tenant

1

2

4

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

8

Son of the above tenant living in a separate house and possessing a share of his fathers land, all the family at home

3

BALCHATRIGIN

Angus McNab

Weaver

1

2

2

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

6

All living at home

4

BALCHATRIGIN

Duncan Graham - Senior

Tenant

1

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1

 

3

1 male servant.

5

BALCHATRIGIN

Duncan McAllum

Shoemaker

1

2

5

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

9

All at home.

6

BALCHATRIGIN

Donald Smith

Cottar

1

1

1

 

1

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

5

 

7

BALCHATRIGIN

Duncan McNab

Tenant

1

6

3

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

5

Eldest son possesses part of his land, in a separated house, the other son is a workman in Cornabus and 2 sons are in the low Country, 1 at home and the other a Cartwright & 2 at home. 3 daughters, 2 in the Low Country, 1 married and 1 at Svc, on at home.

8

BALCHATRIGIN

John McNab

Tenant

1

 

1

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

3

Above mentioned.

9

BALCHATRIGIN

Andrew McNab

Tenant

1

3

3 & 1 dau-in-law

 

 

 

1

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

10

All at home.

10

BALCHATRIGIN

John McDougall

Weaver

1

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1 (deaf & dumb)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

3

 

11

BALCHATRIGIN

Dugald Mathieson

Tenant

1

7

2

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

3 sons are married, eldest possesses part of his land at Stremnich, second is a Weaver/Cottar to his father and 3rd a Tailor, 4th & 5th Shoemakers the last at School, 2 daughters 1 at Svc in Low Country the other at home and 1 illegitimate grand daughter.

12

BALCHATRIGIN

Niel Mathieson

Weaver/Cottar

1

 

1

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

3

 

13

BALCHATRIGIN

Duncan Graham - Junior

Tenant

1

2

1

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

5

All at home.

14

BALCHATRIGIN

Duncan McNab

Weaver/Cottar

1

1

2

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

5

 

15

BALCHATRIGIN

Hugh McArthur

Tenant

1

2

4

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

8

All at home.

16

BALCHATRIGIN

Alexander McCuaig

Smith

1

3

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

5

All at home. This man is Smith to the farms around but has his Cow grass from this Tenant.

17

BALCHATRIGIN

Duncan Morrison's widow

Tenant

 

1

1

 

 

 

1

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

4

 

18

BALCHATRIGIN

John McNab

Tenant

1

4

2

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

8

All at home.

19

BALCHATRIGIN

John Gilchrist

Tenant

1

4

6

 

 

 

 

 

 

1

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

12

The eldest son at Svc in the Low Country and the rest at Home

20

BALCHATRIGIN

Peter Graham

Tenant

1

2

1

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1

 

1

 

 

 

7

 

21

BALCHATRIGIN

Alexander McNab

Tenant

1

4

4

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

8

Eldest son at Svc & Eldest daughter in the Low Country.

22

LURABUS

Donald McNab

Tenant

1

6

4

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1

 

 

 

 

 

 

1

 

12

Eldest daughter at Svc in the Low Country, 1 son an apprentice Tailor, the eldes son is 19 years of age is at home. 1 female servant.

23

LURABUS

Donald Gilchrist

Weaver/Cottar

1

2

2

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

6

 

24

LURABUS

James McIntyre

Quarrier/Cottar

1

1

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

3

 

25

LURABUS

Widow McTaggart

Cottar

 

1

4

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1

 

 

 

6

The eldest daughter is at Svc in this parish.

26

LURABUS

Widow McNab

Tenant

 

 

1

2

4

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 



Re: [EXT] Re: [Islay] Roll Call ?

S K
 

Judy,

I have done a lot of research on the Argyle Patent, mostly the first trip in 1738. There were three in total, ‘39 and ‘40. They landed up upstate NY and moved about the area. My group ended up in Claverack and Kinderhook. Let me know if you need some resources about this.

Shelley


On Jan 13, 2022, at 9:06 AM, Judith Jeon-Chapman <jjeonchapman@...> wrote:


I also have family living on the Argyle patent: the McDougalls and the Walkers, but I can't find where the Walkers come from. Duncan McDougall and his wife, Janet Calder, came to the Argyle Patent in 1739.  Lists of the Argyle settlers show he arrived in 1739 with wife Janet Calder, and children John, Alexander, Ronald, Dugald, and Margaret. He is still listed with 5 children in 1764.

I have not been able to find information about Janet Calder's parents, and have found very little about where the McDougall family came from exactly.

The Walkers are a complete mystery.  I assume that they are Scottish.  John Alexander Walker was born 17 Sep 1825 in East Greenwich, abutting Argyle, NY.  His parents were Daniel Walker (03 Nov 1790-07 Nov 1841; birthplace and parents unknown) and Jane McDougall (16 May 1795-25 Apr 1838) whose parents were John McDougall (04 Apr 1753-08 Apr 1813, son of Alexander and Catherine McDonnel) and Elizabeth Beatty (28 May 1757-11 Apr 1820, daughter of Capt. James Beatty (Rev. army) and Huguenot, Catherine DeGersey/Jersey (another mystery person).  

Any information about any of these people would be greatly appreciated, especially where the McDougalls and Walkers came from exactly.  Were there Walkers in Islay?

Judy

On Thu, Jan 13, 2022 at 8:05 AM S K <Snjmk318@...> wrote:
No, my people sailed to New York from Islay with Captain Campbell in 1738 on the Argyle Patent. Names were Neal McArthur, Mary Campbell and their children, John, Charles, and Christine. I’m sure they left family behind in Islay, but without more details on them pre-1738, I don’t know how to identity other family. Once they land in America, I can trace their movements fairly easily, all the way to Canada after the Revolutionary War, and up to these current generations of myself and my son. 

Shelley


On Jan 13, 2022, at 2:45 AM, J LOCHRIDGE via groups.io <j.lochridge=btinternet.com@groups.io> wrote:


SK

Do your people not appear on Passengers from Islay November 1740? Image 112

Johan




------ Original Message ------
From: "S K" <Snjmk318@...>
To: Islay@scotland-genealogy.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, 13 Jan, 22 At 09:18
Subject: Re: [Islay] Roll Call ?


Thank you so much for posting this. I’m afraid I’m. Not finding my people.

Best wishes,

Shelley

On Jan 13, 2022, at 1:56 AM, J LOCHRIDGE via groups.io <j.lochridge=btinternet.com@groups.io> wrote:


Oops Sorry SK. It must be too early this morning!

Johan




------ Original Message ------
From: "S K" <Snjmk318@...>
To: Islay@scotland-genealogy.groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, 12 Jan, 22 At 20:24
Subject: Re: [Islay] Roll Call ?

Omg! YES PLEASE!!🙏🏻

Thank you so much,

Shelley


On Jan 12, 2022, at 1:23 PM, J LOCHRIDGE via groups.io <j.lochridge=btinternet.com@groups.io> wrote:


SK,

I have a short list of 6 Ardtalla rentals from 1733 . Let me know if you would like me to note them for you, or maybe even take pics for you

Regards

Johan




------ Original Message ------
From: "S K" <Snjmk318@...>
To: Islay@scotland-genealogy.groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, 12 Jan, 22 At 20:03
Subject: Re: [Islay] Roll Call ?

My goodness!! I wish I could find something like this for Ardtalla(y) on Islay!
Great find!!


On Jan 11, 2022, at 9:02 PM, Sue Visser <genealgal2@...> wrote:


Perhaps this might help McNabb hunters: 1839 Population of Balchatrigin (This is part of a file of Oa tenants that was sent to me a number of years ago and to my shame I did not record who gave it to me .... Roger McWee???? This looks like your quality of excellent work.)
My sincere apologies.
Sue Visser

ID

Farm

Tenant

Occupation

Wife

Sons

Daughter

G-son

G-Daughter

Father in Law

Mother in Law

Brother

Son in Law

Sister

Brother in Law

Niece

Cousin

Nephew

Father

Mother

Grand Mother

Servant

Aunt

Total

Information

1

BALCHATRIGIN

Alexander Graham

Tenant

1

-

2

4

2

BALCHATRIGIN

Duncan Graham

Tenant

1

2

4

8

Son of the above tenant living in a separate house and possessing a share of his fathers land, all the family at home

3

BALCHATRIGIN

Angus McNab

Weaver

1

2

2

6

All living at home

4

BALCHATRIGIN

Duncan Graham - Senior

Tenant

1

1

3

1 male servant.

5

BALCHATRIGIN

Duncan McAllum

Shoemaker

1

2

5

9

All at home.

6

BALCHATRIGIN

Donald Smith

Cottar

1

1

1

1

5

7

BALCHATRIGIN

Duncan McNab

Tenant

1

6

3

5

Eldest son possesses part of his land, in a separated house, the other son is a workman in Cornabus and 2 sons are in the low Country, 1 at home and the other a Cartwright & 2 at home. 3 daughters, 2 in the Low Country, 1 married and 1 at Svc, on at home.

8

BALCHATRIGIN

John McNab

Tenant

1

1

3

Above mentioned.

9

BALCHATRIGIN

Andrew McNab

Tenant

1

3

3 & 1 dau-in-law

1

10

All at home.

10

BALCHATRIGIN

John McDougall

Weaver

1

1 (deaf & dumb)

3

11

BALCHATRIGIN

Dugald Mathieson

Tenant

1

7

2

3 sons are married, eldest possesses part of his land at Stremnich, second is a Weaver/Cottar to his father and 3rd a Tailor, 4th & 5th Shoemakers the last at School, 2 daughters 1 at Svc in Low Country the other at home and 1 illegitimate grand daughter.

12

BALCHATRIGIN

Niel Mathieson

Weaver/Cottar

1

1

3

13

BALCHATRIGIN

Duncan Graham - Junior

Tenant

1

2

1

5

All at home.

14

BALCHATRIGIN

Duncan McNab

Weaver/Cottar

1

1

2

5

15

BALCHATRIGIN

Hugh McArthur

Tenant

1

2

4

8

All at home.

16

BALCHATRIGIN

Alexander McCuaig

Smith

1

3

5

All at home. This man is Smith to the farms around but has his Cow grass from this Tenant.

17

BALCHATRIGIN

Duncan Morrison's widow

Tenant

1

1

1

4

18

BALCHATRIGIN

John McNab

Tenant

1

4

2

8

All at home.

19

BALCHATRIGIN

John Gilchrist

Tenant

1

4

6

1

12

The eldest son at Svc in the Low Country and the rest at Home

20

BALCHATRIGIN

Peter Graham

Tenant

1

2

1

1

1

7

21

BALCHATRIGIN

Alexander McNab

Tenant

1

4

4

8

Eldest son at Svc & Eldest daughter in the Low Country.








Re: [EXT] Re: [Islay] Roll Call ?

S K
 

Judy,

I have done a lot of research on the Argyle Patent, mostly the first trip in 1738. There were three in total, ‘39 and ‘40. They landed up upstate NY and moved about the area. My group ended up in Claverack and Kinderhook. Let me know if you need some resources about this.

Shelley


On Jan 13, 2022, at 9:06 AM, Judith Jeon-Chapman <jjeonchapman@...> wrote:


I also have family living on the Argyle patent: the McDougalls and the Walkers, but I can't find where the Walkers come from. Duncan McDougall and his wife, Janet Calder, came to the Argyle Patent in 1739.  Lists of the Argyle settlers show he arrived in 1739 with wife Janet Calder, and children John, Alexander, Ronald, Dugald, and Margaret. He is still listed with 5 children in 1764.

I have not been able to find information about Janet Calder's parents, and have found very little about where the McDougall family came from exactly.

The Walkers are a complete mystery.  I assume that they are Scottish.  John Alexander Walker was born 17 Sep 1825 in East Greenwich, abutting Argyle, NY.  His parents were Daniel Walker (03 Nov 1790-07 Nov 1841; birthplace and parents unknown) and Jane McDougall (16 May 1795-25 Apr 1838) whose parents were John McDougall (04 Apr 1753-08 Apr 1813, son of Alexander and Catherine McDonnel) and Elizabeth Beatty (28 May 1757-11 Apr 1820, daughter of Capt. James Beatty (Rev. army) and Huguenot, Catherine DeGersey/Jersey (another mystery person).  

Any information about any of these people would be greatly appreciated, especially where the McDougalls and Walkers came from exactly.  Were there Walkers in Islay?

Judy

On Thu, Jan 13, 2022 at 8:05 AM S K <Snjmk318@...> wrote:
No, my people sailed to New York from Islay with Captain Campbell in 1738 on the Argyle Patent. Names were Neal McArthur, Mary Campbell and their children, John, Charles, and Christine. I’m sure they left family behind in Islay, but without more details on them pre-1738, I don’t know how to identity other family. Once they land in America, I can trace their movements fairly easily, all the way to Canada after the Revolutionary War, and up to these current generations of myself and my son. 

Shelley


On Jan 13, 2022, at 2:45 AM, J LOCHRIDGE via groups.io <j.lochridge=btinternet.com@groups.io> wrote:


SK

Do your people not appear on Passengers from Islay November 1740? Image 112

Johan




------ Original Message ------
From: "S K" <Snjmk318@...>
To: Islay@scotland-genealogy.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, 13 Jan, 22 At 09:18
Subject: Re: [Islay] Roll Call ?


Thank you so much for posting this. I’m afraid I’m. Not finding my people.

Best wishes,

Shelley

On Jan 13, 2022, at 1:56 AM, J LOCHRIDGE via groups.io <j.lochridge=btinternet.com@groups.io> wrote:


Oops Sorry SK. It must be too early this morning!

Johan




------ Original Message ------
From: "S K" <Snjmk318@...>
To: Islay@scotland-genealogy.groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, 12 Jan, 22 At 20:24
Subject: Re: [Islay] Roll Call ?

Omg! YES PLEASE!!🙏🏻

Thank you so much,

Shelley


On Jan 12, 2022, at 1:23 PM, J LOCHRIDGE via groups.io <j.lochridge=btinternet.com@groups.io> wrote:


SK,

I have a short list of 6 Ardtalla rentals from 1733 . Let me know if you would like me to note them for you, or maybe even take pics for you

Regards

Johan




------ Original Message ------
From: "S K" <Snjmk318@...>
To: Islay@scotland-genealogy.groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, 12 Jan, 22 At 20:03
Subject: Re: [Islay] Roll Call ?

My goodness!! I wish I could find something like this for Ardtalla(y) on Islay!
Great find!!


On Jan 11, 2022, at 9:02 PM, Sue Visser <genealgal2@...> wrote:


Perhaps this might help McNabb hunters: 1839 Population of Balchatrigin (This is part of a file of Oa tenants that was sent to me a number of years ago and to my shame I did not record who gave it to me .... Roger McWee???? This looks like your quality of excellent work.)
My sincere apologies.
Sue Visser

ID

Farm

Tenant

Occupation

Wife

Sons

Daughter

G-son

G-Daughter

Father in Law

Mother in Law

Brother

Son in Law

Sister

Brother in Law

Niece

Cousin

Nephew

Father

Mother

Grand Mother

Servant

Aunt

Total

Information

1

BALCHATRIGIN

Alexander Graham

Tenant

1

-

2

4

2

BALCHATRIGIN

Duncan Graham

Tenant

1

2

4

8

Son of the above tenant living in a separate house and possessing a share of his fathers land, all the family at home

3

BALCHATRIGIN

Angus McNab

Weaver

1

2

2

6

All living at home

4

BALCHATRIGIN

Duncan Graham - Senior

Tenant

1

1

3

1 male servant.

5

BALCHATRIGIN

Duncan McAllum

Shoemaker

1

2

5

9

All at home.

6

BALCHATRIGIN

Donald Smith

Cottar

1

1

1

1

5

7

BALCHATRIGIN

Duncan McNab

Tenant

1

6

3

5

Eldest son possesses part of his land, in a separated house, the other son is a workman in Cornabus and 2 sons are in the low Country, 1 at home and the other a Cartwright & 2 at home. 3 daughters, 2 in the Low Country, 1 married and 1 at Svc, on at home.

8

BALCHATRIGIN

John McNab

Tenant

1

1

3

Above mentioned.

9

BALCHATRIGIN

Andrew McNab

Tenant

1

3

3 & 1 dau-in-law

1

10

All at home.

10

BALCHATRIGIN

John McDougall

Weaver

1

1 (deaf & dumb)

3

11

BALCHATRIGIN

Dugald Mathieson

Tenant

1

7

2

3 sons are married, eldest possesses part of his land at Stremnich, second is a Weaver/Cottar to his father and 3rd a Tailor, 4th & 5th Shoemakers the last at School, 2 daughters 1 at Svc in Low Country the other at home and 1 illegitimate grand daughter.

12

BALCHATRIGIN

Niel Mathieson

Weaver/Cottar

1

1

3

13

BALCHATRIGIN

Duncan Graham - Junior

Tenant

1

2

1

5

All at home.

14

BALCHATRIGIN

Duncan McNab

Weaver/Cottar

1

1

2

5

15

BALCHATRIGIN

Hugh McArthur

Tenant

1

2

4

8

All at home.

16

BALCHATRIGIN

Alexander McCuaig

Smith

1

3

5

All at home. This man is Smith to the farms around but has his Cow grass from this Tenant.

17

BALCHATRIGIN

Duncan Morrison's widow

Tenant

1

1

1

4

18

BALCHATRIGIN

John McNab

Tenant

1

4

2

8

All at home.

19

BALCHATRIGIN

John Gilchrist

Tenant

1

4

6

1

12

The eldest son at Svc in the Low Country and the rest at Home

20

BALCHATRIGIN

Peter Graham

Tenant

1

2

1

1

1

7

21

BALCHATRIGIN

Alexander McNab

Tenant

1

4

4

8

Eldest son at Svc & Eldest daughter in the Low Country.








Re: [EXT] Re: [Islay] Roll Call ?

Judith Jeon-Chapman
 

I also have family living on the Argyle patent: the McDougalls and the Walkers, but I can't find where the Walkers come from. Duncan McDougall and his wife, Janet Calder, came to the Argyle Patent in 1739.  Lists of the Argyle settlers show he arrived in 1739 with wife Janet Calder, and children John, Alexander, Ronald, Dugald, and Margaret. He is still listed with 5 children in 1764.

I have not been able to find information about Janet Calder's parents, and have found very little about where the McDougall family came from exactly.

The Walkers are a complete mystery.  I assume that they are Scottish.  John Alexander Walker was born 17 Sep 1825 in East Greenwich, abutting Argyle, NY.  His parents were Daniel Walker (03 Nov 1790-07 Nov 1841; birthplace and parents unknown) and Jane McDougall (16 May 1795-25 Apr 1838) whose parents were John McDougall (04 Apr 1753-08 Apr 1813, son of Alexander and Catherine McDonnel) and Elizabeth Beatty (28 May 1757-11 Apr 1820, daughter of Capt. James Beatty (Rev. army) and Huguenot, Catherine DeGersey/Jersey (another mystery person).  

Any information about any of these people would be greatly appreciated, especially where the McDougalls and Walkers came from exactly.  Were there Walkers in Islay?

Judy

On Thu, Jan 13, 2022 at 8:05 AM S K <Snjmk318@...> wrote:
No, my people sailed to New York from Islay with Captain Campbell in 1738 on the Argyle Patent. Names were Neal McArthur, Mary Campbell and their children, John, Charles, and Christine. I’m sure they left family behind in Islay, but without more details on them pre-1738, I don’t know how to identity other family. Once they land in America, I can trace their movements fairly easily, all the way to Canada after the Revolutionary War, and up to these current generations of myself and my son. 

Shelley


On Jan 13, 2022, at 2:45 AM, J LOCHRIDGE via groups.io <j.lochridge=btinternet.com@groups.io> wrote:


SK

Do your people not appear on Passengers from Islay November 1740? Image 112

Johan




------ Original Message ------
From: "S K" <Snjmk318@...>
To: Islay@scotland-genealogy.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, 13 Jan, 22 At 09:18
Subject: Re: [Islay] Roll Call ?


Thank you so much for posting this. I’m afraid I’m. Not finding my people.

Best wishes,

Shelley

On Jan 13, 2022, at 1:56 AM, J LOCHRIDGE via groups.io <j.lochridge=btinternet.com@groups.io> wrote:


Oops Sorry SK. It must be too early this morning!

Johan




------ Original Message ------
From: "S K" <Snjmk318@...>
To: Islay@scotland-genealogy.groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, 12 Jan, 22 At 20:24
Subject: Re: [Islay] Roll Call ?

Omg! YES PLEASE!!🙏🏻

Thank you so much,

Shelley


On Jan 12, 2022, at 1:23 PM, J LOCHRIDGE via groups.io <j.lochridge=btinternet.com@groups.io> wrote:


SK,

I have a short list of 6 Ardtalla rentals from 1733 . Let me know if you would like me to note them for you, or maybe even take pics for you

Regards

Johan




------ Original Message ------
From: "S K" <Snjmk318@...>
To: Islay@scotland-genealogy.groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, 12 Jan, 22 At 20:03
Subject: Re: [Islay] Roll Call ?

My goodness!! I wish I could find something like this for Ardtalla(y) on Islay!
Great find!!


On Jan 11, 2022, at 9:02 PM, Sue Visser <genealgal2@...> wrote:


Perhaps this might help McNabb hunters: 1839 Population of Balchatrigin (This is part of a file of Oa tenants that was sent to me a number of years ago and to my shame I did not record who gave it to me .... Roger McWee???? This looks like your quality of excellent work.)
My sincere apologies.
Sue Visser

ID

Farm

Tenant

Occupation

Wife

Sons

Daughter

G-son

G-Daughter

Father in Law

Mother in Law

Brother

Son in Law

Sister

Brother in Law

Niece

Cousin

Nephew

Father

Mother

Grand Mother

Servant

Aunt

Total

Information

1

BALCHATRIGIN

Alexander Graham

Tenant

1

-

2

4

2

BALCHATRIGIN

Duncan Graham

Tenant

1

2

4

8

Son of the above tenant living in a separate house and possessing a share of his fathers land, all the family at home

3

BALCHATRIGIN

Angus McNab

Weaver

1

2

2

6

All living at home

4

BALCHATRIGIN

Duncan Graham - Senior

Tenant

1

1

3

1 male servant.

5

BALCHATRIGIN

Duncan McAllum

Shoemaker

1

2

5

9

All at home.

6

BALCHATRIGIN

Donald Smith

Cottar

1

1

1

1

5

7

BALCHATRIGIN

Duncan McNab

Tenant

1

6

3

5

Eldest son possesses part of his land, in a separated house, the other son is a workman in Cornabus and 2 sons are in the low Country, 1 at home and the other a Cartwright & 2 at home. 3 daughters, 2 in the Low Country, 1 married and 1 at Svc, on at home.

8

BALCHATRIGIN

John McNab

Tenant

1

1

3

Above mentioned.

9

BALCHATRIGIN

Andrew McNab

Tenant

1

3

3 & 1 dau-in-law

1

10

All at home.

10

BALCHATRIGIN

John McDougall

Weaver

1

1 (deaf & dumb)

3

11

BALCHATRIGIN

Dugald Mathieson

Tenant

1

7

2

3 sons are married, eldest possesses part of his land at Stremnich, second is a Weaver/Cottar to his father and 3rd a Tailor, 4th & 5th Shoemakers the last at School, 2 daughters 1 at Svc in Low Country the other at home and 1 illegitimate grand daughter.

12

BALCHATRIGIN

Niel Mathieson

Weaver/Cottar

1

1

3

13

BALCHATRIGIN

Duncan Graham - Junior

Tenant

1

2

1

5

All at home.

14

BALCHATRIGIN

Duncan McNab

Weaver/Cottar

1

1

2

5

15

BALCHATRIGIN

Hugh McArthur

Tenant

1

2

4

8

All at home.

16

BALCHATRIGIN

Alexander McCuaig

Smith

1

3

5

All at home. This man is Smith to the farms around but has his Cow grass from this Tenant.

17

BALCHATRIGIN

Duncan Morrison's widow

Tenant

1

1

1

4

18

BALCHATRIGIN

John McNab

Tenant

1

4

2

8

All at home.

19

BALCHATRIGIN

John Gilchrist

Tenant

1

4

6

1

12

The eldest son at Svc in the Low Country and the rest at Home

20

BALCHATRIGIN

Peter Graham

Tenant

1

2

1

1

1

7

21

BALCHATRIGIN

Alexander McNab

Tenant

1

4

4

8

Eldest son at Svc & Eldest daughter in the Low Country.








Re: the complete file from OA 1839

Anne Farrar
 

Thank you for this, Sue. It will help me sort out my family


Re: Roll Call ?

J LOCHRIDGE
 

SK

Maybe one day! Keep looking, good luck.

J




------ Original Message ------
From: "S K" <Snjmk318@...>
To: Islay@scotland-genealogy.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, 13 Jan, 22 At 13:05
Subject: Re: [Islay] Roll Call ?

No, my people sailed to New York from Islay with Captain Campbell in 1738 on the Argyle Patent. Names were Neal McArthur, Mary Campbell and their children, John, Charles, and Christine. I’m sure they left family behind in Islay, but without more details on them pre-1738, I don’t know how to identity other family. Once they land in America, I can trace their movements fairly easily, all the way to Canada after the Revolutionary War, and up to these current generations of myself and my son.

Shelley


On Jan 13, 2022, at 2:45 AM, J LOCHRIDGE via groups.io <j.lochridge@...> wrote:


SK

Do your people not appear on Passengers from Islay November 1740? Image 112

Johan




------ Original Message ------
From: "S K" <Snjmk318@...>
To: Islay@scotland-genealogy.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, 13 Jan, 22 At 09:18
Subject: Re: [Islay] Roll Call ?


Thank you so much for posting this. I’m afraid I’m. Not finding my people.

Best wishes,

Shelley

On Jan 13, 2022, at 1:56 AM, J LOCHRIDGE via groups.io <j.lochridge@...> wrote:


Oops Sorry SK. It must be too early this morning!

Johan




------ Original Message ------
From: "S K" <Snjmk318@...>
To: Islay@scotland-genealogy.groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, 12 Jan, 22 At 20:24
Subject: Re: [Islay] Roll Call ?

Omg! YES PLEASE!!🙏🏻

Thank you so much,

Shelley


On Jan 12, 2022, at 1:23 PM, J LOCHRIDGE via groups.io <j.lochridge@...> wrote:


SK,

I have a short list of 6 Ardtalla rentals from 1733 . Let me know if you would like me to note them for you, or maybe even take pics for you

Regards

Johan




------ Original Message ------
From: "S K" <Snjmk318@...>
To: Islay@scotland-genealogy.groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, 12 Jan, 22 At 20:03
Subject: Re: [Islay] Roll Call ?

My goodness!! I wish I could find something like this for Ardtalla(y) on Islay!
Great find!!


On Jan 11, 2022, at 9:02 PM, Sue Visser <genealgal2@...> wrote:


Perhaps this might help McNabb hunters: 1839 Population of Balchatrigin (This is part of a file of Oa tenants that was sent to me a number of years ago and to my shame I did not record who gave it to me .... Roger McWee???? This looks like your quality of excellent work.)
My sincere apologies.
Sue Visser

ID

Farm

Tenant

Occupation

Wife

Sons

Daughter

G-son

G-Daughter

Father in Law

Mother in Law

Brother

Son in Law

Sister

Brother in Law

Niece

Cousin

Nephew

Father

Mother

Grand Mother

Servant

Aunt

Total

Information

1

BALCHATRIGIN

Alexander Graham

Tenant

1

-

2

4

2

BALCHATRIGIN

Duncan Graham

Tenant

1

2

4

8

Son of the above tenant living in a separate house and possessing a share of his fathers land, all the family at home

3

BALCHATRIGIN

Angus McNab

Weaver

1

2

2

6

All living at home

4

BALCHATRIGIN

Duncan Graham - Senior

Tenant

1

1

3

1 male servant.

5

BALCHATRIGIN

Duncan McAllum

Shoemaker

1

2

5

9

All at home.

6

BALCHATRIGIN

Donald Smith

Cottar

1

1

1

1

5

7

BALCHATRIGIN

Duncan McNab

Tenant

1

6

3

5

Eldest son possesses part of his land, in a separated house, the other son is a workman in Cornabus and 2 sons are in the low Country, 1 at home and the other a Cartwright & 2 at home. 3 daughters, 2 in the Low Country, 1 married and 1 at Svc, on at home.

8

BALCHATRIGIN

John McNab

Tenant

1

1

3

Above mentioned.

9

BALCHATRIGIN

Andrew McNab

Tenant

1

3

3 & 1 dau-in-law

1

10

All at home.

10

BALCHATRIGIN

John McDougall

Weaver

1

1 (deaf & dumb)

3

11

BALCHATRIGIN

Dugald Mathieson

Tenant

1

7

2

3 sons are married, eldest possesses part of his land at Stremnich, second is a Weaver/Cottar to his father and 3rd a Tailor, 4th & 5th Shoemakers the last at School, 2 daughters 1 at Svc in Low Country the other at home and 1 illegitimate grand daughter.

12

BALCHATRIGIN

Niel Mathieson

Weaver/Cottar

1

1

3

13

BALCHATRIGIN

Duncan Graham - Junior

Tenant

1

2

1

5

All at home.

14

BALCHATRIGIN

Duncan McNab

Weaver/Cottar

1

1

2

5

15

BALCHATRIGIN

Hugh McArthur

Tenant

1

2

4

8

All at home.

16

BALCHATRIGIN

Alexander McCuaig

Smith

1

3

5

All at home. This man is Smith to the farms around but has his Cow grass from this Tenant.

17

BALCHATRIGIN

Duncan Morrison's widow

Tenant

1

1

1

4

18

BALCHATRIGIN

John McNab

Tenant

1

4

2

8

All at home.

19

BALCHATRIGIN

John Gilchrist

Tenant

1

4

6

1

12

The eldest son at Svc in the Low Country and the rest at Home

20

BALCHATRIGIN

Peter Graham

Tenant

1

2

1

1

1

7

21

BALCHATRIGIN

Alexander McNab

Tenant

1

4

4

8

Eldest son at Svc & Eldest daughter in the Low Country.









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