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Re: Donald Currie + Katherine Sinclair

tsinclair@...
 

Hello all,  I hope you don't mind if I butt into this conversation.   I found my record of the marriage between Donald Currie and Katherine Sinclair, Feb.1786.  This is what I have for their family:   1. daughter Catherine died 15 March, 1874, age 90, poor house.  If this is correct, she was probably their first-born around 1784.  2. Mary, Jan 3, 1787 at Sgarabus  3. Iver, Dec. 18, 1791.  4.  Ann, Sept. 1796 at Daill;  Alexander, Sept. 2,1798, Lurabus.  Emigrated to Egremont twp, Grey Co.  

So, if we used the traditional naming pattern, Donald's parents names might be "Iver Curry" and "Mary".  Thus, Katherine's parents might be "Alexander Sinclair" and "Katherine".   I know that is just speculative, BUT, Alexander Sinclair did live at Daill farm in the late 1790s, and his wife's name was Katherine.  "Iver" is a very unusual first name, certainly for Islay Sinclairs, so I suggest that the name is probably a Currie forename.   (just doing a quick google of Iver Curry + Argyllshire, I see that the name might have changed to "Edward", a more anglicized version.  I saw the name "Iver Curry" on the mainland of Argyllshire in a couple of places.  

Just thought it might help. 
Toni
(PS - Hi Janet!  I think we corresponded a few years ago.  And Roger! ....many more years ago.  Yikes!   Anyway, it's nice to be back.)   


Re: Currie / McVurich - please help

Roger
 

Hi Jane,
It took me a little while to figure out this statement, but the way I read it is that it was Donald Currie who died on the moors in 1856 and is buried in Kilchoman graveyard, stone not found.
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1856 Donald Currie, Agricultural Labourer, married son of Farmer, Archibald Currie and wife (unknown to his son Archibald Currie), missing on Kinigary Moor or Hill for 16 days was found dead on Kinigary Moor on the 24th February aged 70 years and is buried in Kilchoman churchyard as certified by his son Archibald Currie and registered on the 28th February by John Taylor, Bowmore.
I have read all the visible monuments in Kilchoman graveyard and the only one credited to a Duncan Currie I have attached, unfortunately the inscription was unable to be read apart from the words Donald Currie but even this stone is a leap of faith if it is to be the same chappie.  It is the word ‘By’ that is the key. Hmmmm the plot continues.
Regards Roger
 
 

Sent: Friday, January 22, 2021 5:32 PM
Subject: Re: [Islay] Currie / McVurich - please help
 
Thanks Roger.   I do not expect ever to find out.     A question for you.   Family lore is that my Donald Currie had a son who died in a snow storm with his cousin.   Would that be the John Currie I heard about years ago?
 
 
 
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-------- Original message --------
From: "Roger via groups.io" <rogermcwee99@...>
Date: 2021-01-22 11:22 a.m. (GMT-06:00)
To: Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Islay] Currie / McVurich - please help
 
Hi Janet
I still havnt got a father or mother for him
Regards Roger
 
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2021 3:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Islay] Currie / McVurich - please help
 

Morning all:

 

My Donald Currie born about 1768 Bowmore married Catherine Sinclair 4 Feb 1786.  Roger McWee told me years ago no one knew who his father is, and if found out I would be told.   In my tree I put his father as John Currie question mark.  

 

Have a good day,

 

Janet Currie Chubb

 

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From: Iain MacIntosh
Sent: January 22, 2021 4:22 AM
To: Islay@scotland-genealogy.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Islay] Currie / McVurich - please help

 

Hi Janice

I was passing a general comment on the dangers of accepting data from Ancestry trees without checking back to primary sources.  Not specific to the content of your earlier message. 

Regards

Iain

 

 

 



 

Iain

 

 

 

On 21 Jan 2021, at 21:24, Janice McClelland <jan.mcclelland888@...> wrote:

Hi Iain! Which assumption, please & thanks. :) I have seen many unverified whoppers in trees too - hence my reluctance to add Ivar McVurich to the tree without knowing the connection to Currie. If anything I am overly cautious when adding people.
Jan

 


Re: McFadyens of Bowmore, Islay

Glynn Currie
 

Verrrry interesting!



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-------- Original message --------
From: Janice McClelland <jan.mcclelland888@...>
Date: 2021-01-22 15:15 (GMT-08:00)
To: Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Islay] McFadyens of Bowmore, Islay

We could start a new thread - "ancestors born on Shore Street". :) Wayne's grandmother, Euphemia Ferguson McNeill was also born in a house on that street 3 Jan 1884.
Jan


Re: McFadyens of Bowmore, Islay

Janice McClelland
 

We could start a new thread - "ancestors born on Shore Street". :) Wayne's grandmother, Euphemia Ferguson McNeill was also born in a house on that street 3 Jan 1884.
Jan 


Re: Currie / McVurich - please help

Anne Goeden
 

Re Currie:

Janet Chubb does share a dna match with my first cousin and my third cousin.  (  Both descended from Mary Currie 1794-1877). No birth record has been found for Mary, but she does show up on the 1841 and 1851 census before moving to Canada.)

Anne Goeden 

On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 12:39 PM Janice McClelland <jan.mcclelland888@...> wrote:
Hi Candy - I have your Charlotte Murdoch & that family in my tree - a first! LOL. If what I have is correct, this Neil & Wayne's 4x ggf Donald are brothers. I will let you know if/when I discover more verification.
Jan


Re: Currie / McVurich - please help

Janice McClelland
 

Hi Candy - I have your Charlotte Murdoch & that family in my tree - a first! LOL. If what I have is correct, this Neil & Wayne's 4x ggf Donald are brothers. I will let you know if/when I discover more verification.
Jan


Re: Currie / McVurich - please help

Janet Chubb
 

Thanks Roger.   I do not expect ever to find out.     A question for you.   Family lore is that my Donald Currie had a son who died in a snow storm with his cousin.   Would that be the John Currie I heard about years ago?



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-------- Original message --------
From: "Roger via groups.io" <rogermcwee99@...>
Date: 2021-01-22 11:22 a.m. (GMT-06:00)
To: Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Islay] Currie / McVurich - please help

Hi Janet
I still havnt got a father or mother for him
Regards Roger
 
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2021 3:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Islay] Currie / McVurich - please help
 

Morning all:

 

My Donald Currie born about 1768 Bowmore married Catherine Sinclair 4 Feb 1786.  Roger McWee told me years ago no one knew who his father is, and if found out I would be told.   In my tree I put his father as John Currie question mark.  

 

Have a good day,

 

Janet Currie Chubb

 

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From: Iain MacIntosh
Sent: January 22, 2021 4:22 AM
To: Islay@scotland-genealogy.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Islay] Currie / McVurich - please help

 

Hi Janice

I was passing a general comment on the dangers of accepting data from Ancestry trees without checking back to primary sources.  Not specific to the content of your earlier message. 

Regards

Iain

 

 

 



 

Iain

 

 

 

On 21 Jan 2021, at 21:24, Janice McClelland <jan.mcclelland888@...> wrote:

Hi Iain! Which assumption, please & thanks. :) I have seen many unverified whoppers in trees too - hence my reluctance to add Ivar McVurich to the tree without knowing the connection to Currie. If anything I am overly cautious when adding people.
Jan

 


Re: Currie / McVurich - please help

Janice McClelland
 

Thanks for the clarification, Iain. I agree completely!
Jan


Re: Currie / McVurich - please help

Roger
 

Hi Janet
I still havnt got a father or mother for him
Regards Roger
 

Sent: Friday, January 22, 2021 3:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Islay] Currie / McVurich - please help
 

Morning all:

 

My Donald Currie born about 1768 Bowmore married Catherine Sinclair 4 Feb 1786.  Roger McWee told me years ago no one knew who his father is, and if found out I would be told.   In my tree I put his father as John Currie question mark.  

 

Have a good day,

 

Janet Currie Chubb

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Iain MacIntosh
Sent: January 22, 2021 4:22 AM
To: Islay@scotland-genealogy.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Islay] Currie / McVurich - please help

 

Hi Janice

I was passing a general comment on the dangers of accepting data from Ancestry trees without checking back to primary sources.  Not specific to the content of your earlier message. 

Regards

Iain

 

 

 



 

Iain

 

 

 

On 21 Jan 2021, at 21:24, Janice McClelland <jan.mcclelland888@...> wrote:

Hi Iain! Which assumption, please & thanks. :) I have seen many unverified whoppers in trees too - hence my reluctance to add Ivar McVurich to the tree without knowing the connection to Currie. If anything I am overly cautious when adding people.
Jan

 


Re: Currie / McVurich - please help

Janet Chubb
 

Morning all:

 

My Donald Currie born about 1768 Bowmore married Catherine Sinclair 4 Feb 1786.  Roger McWee told me years ago no one knew who his father is, and if found out I would be told.   In my tree I put his father as John Currie question mark.  

 

Have a good day,

 

Janet Currie Chubb

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Iain MacIntosh
Sent: January 22, 2021 4:22 AM
To: Islay@scotland-genealogy.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Islay] Currie / McVurich - please help

 

Hi Janice

I was passing a general comment on the dangers of accepting data from Ancestry trees without checking back to primary sources.  Not specific to the content of your earlier message.  

Regards

Iain 

 

 

 



 

Iain 

 

 

 

On 21 Jan 2021, at 21:24, Janice McClelland <jan.mcclelland888@...> wrote:

Hi Iain! Which assumption, please & thanks. :) I have seen many unverified whoppers in trees too - hence my reluctance to add Ivar McVurich to the tree without knowing the connection to Currie. If anything I am overly cautious when adding people. 
Jan

 


Re: Currie / McVurich - please help

Iain MacIntosh
 

Hi Janice
I was passing a general comment on the dangers of accepting data from Ancestry trees without checking back to primary sources.  Not specific to the content of your earlier message.  

Regards
Iain 







Iain 



On 21 Jan 2021, at 21:24, Janice McClelland <jan.mcclelland888@...> wrote:

Hi Iain! Which assumption, please & thanks. :) I have seen many unverified whoppers in trees too - hence my reluctance to add Ivar McVurich to the tree without knowing the connection to Currie. If anything I am overly cautious when adding people. 
Jan


Re: Currie / McVurich - please help

candy@...
 

Hello Jan, My Charlotte Murdoch (dau of Rev John Murdoch and Catherine Campbell) married Neil Currie in 1792 at Bowmore, they had 4 children that I know of Donald b 1793, John b 1795, Catherine Anne b 1806 and Mary b 1810. Big gap, maybe more in between, but have not found yet.  Catherine and Mary both baptised in Kilmeny.  My main research is of the Murdoch's.  Let me know if you find a connection.  Regards Candy


Re: McFadyens of Bowmore, Islay

Philip Hubsmith
 

Hi Flora,

 

Thank-you, did not know that Donald re-married after his first wife died - that is some info I did not know / Donald’s brother Hugh is my G Grandfather

  

Philip Hubsmith, Erskine, Scotland

 

From: Flora MacAffer
Sent: 21 January 2021 21:48
To: Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Islay] McFadyens of Bowmore, Islay

 

Hi Philip

 

Margaret Carmichael was the second wife of your Donald McFadyen, Postmaster.

 

Flora

 

 


Re: Currie family

Janice McClelland
 

Thank you! And.... done!
Jan


Re: Currie / McVurich - please help

Janice McClelland
 

Thank you, Alan, for the info & phonetic pronunciation - I must say that even though my own ancestry is well over 70% Scot/Irish Gaelic is not a language that comes readily, or at all, ha.

Alas, with all the Curries I have in the tree I don't yet have any of the ones you've mentioned. It seems so unlikely to me that there can be so many Curries that I'm still missing dozens of them, considering the size of Islay. But the proof of the pudding.... :)
Jan


Re: McFadyens of Bowmore, Islay

Flora MacAffer
 

Glynn
I don't think I'll be able to help with that.      At that time several families would have occupied one house, and names of houses have changed over the years.   I'm not sure how the numbering on Valuation Roll/Census records went.
Flora


From: Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io <Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io> on behalf of Glynn Currie <glynn.currie@...>
Sent: 21 January 2021 21:40
To: Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io <Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Islay] McFadyens of Bowmore, Islay
 
Flora,
Your message clicks with me as well. My grandmother was born on Shore Street in Bowmore as well. I see that you are a current resident of the town and so might have an answer to my query.
My grand mother was Flora McDiarmid (b. 1883 on Shore Street, Bowmore - 1960 in Saskatchewan, Canada). Her parents were Archibald McDiarmid and Agnes MacDonald. I have found the Valuation Rolls for 1885 and 1895 showing that Archibald McDiarmid was a tenant of a building on Shore Street.
I would like to be able to identify the building in which Gramma was born. Would you be able to suggest a way to connect the Valuation Roll to a current address?
Thanks for any help you are able to provide.
Glynn Currie
Vancouver Island, Canada



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-------- Original message --------
From: "Philip Hubsmith via groups.io" <p.hubsmith@...>
Date: 2021-01-21 13:29 (GMT-08:00)
To: Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Islay] McFadyens of Bowmore, Islay

Hi Flora,

 

Thank-you for that, I have so much info I need to digest and collate and will check further if there is a connection – thank-you!

 

Hopefully a member can point me in the right direction for the database of Islay Gravestones and Photos

 

Philip Hubsmith, Erskine, Scotland

 

From: Flora MacAffer
Sent: 21 January 2021 21:05
To: Islay@scotland-genealogy.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Islay] McFadyens of Bowmore, Islay

 

Hi Philip Hubsmith

 

You may already have the following information:-

 

Donald McFadyen married Margaret Carmichael (my great grand aunt) 20 Dec 1894 in Bowmore.

 

Their daughter Ann was born 16 Aug 1896 in Shore Street, Bowmore.

Ann died 07 Nov 1962 in Aberdeen.

 

Margaret died 11 Aug 1902.

 

I am happy to send copies of certificates if you don’t already have them. 

 

Flora MacAffer

Bowmore, Islay 

 



 

 


Re: McFadyens of Bowmore, Islay

Flora MacAffer
 

Hi Philip

Margaret Carmichael was the second wife of your Donald McFadyen, Postmaster.

Flora


From: Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io <Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io> on behalf of Philip Hubsmith via groups.io <p.hubsmith@...>
Sent: 21 January 2021 21:29
To: Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io <Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Islay] McFadyens of Bowmore, Islay
 

Hi Flora,

 

Thank-you for that, I have so much info I need to digest and collate and will check further if there is a connection – thank-you!

 

Hopefully a member can point me in the right direction for the database of Islay Gravestones and Photos

 

Philip Hubsmith, Erskine, Scotland

 

From: Flora MacAffer
Sent: 21 January 2021 21:05
To: Islay@scotland-genealogy.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Islay] McFadyens of Bowmore, Islay

 

Hi Philip Hubsmith

 

You may already have the following information:-

 

Donald McFadyen married Margaret Carmichael (my great grand aunt) 20 Dec 1894 in Bowmore.

 

Their daughter Ann was born 16 Aug 1896 in Shore Street, Bowmore.

Ann died 07 Nov 1962 in Aberdeen.

 

Margaret died 11 Aug 1902.

 

I am happy to send copies of certificates if you don’t already have them. 

 

Flora MacAffer

Bowmore, Islay 

 



 

 


Re: McFadyens of Bowmore, Islay

Glynn Currie
 

Flora,
Your message clicks with me as well. My grandmother was born on Shore Street in Bowmore as well. I see that you are a current resident of the town and so might have an answer to my query.
My grand mother was Flora McDiarmid (b. 1883 on Shore Street, Bowmore - 1960 in Saskatchewan, Canada). Her parents were Archibald McDiarmid and Agnes MacDonald. I have found the Valuation Rolls for 1885 and 1895 showing that Archibald McDiarmid was a tenant of a building on Shore Street.
I would like to be able to identify the building in which Gramma was born. Would you be able to suggest a way to connect the Valuation Roll to a current address?
Thanks for any help you are able to provide.
Glynn Currie
Vancouver Island, Canada



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-------- Original message --------
From: "Philip Hubsmith via groups.io" <p.hubsmith@...>
Date: 2021-01-21 13:29 (GMT-08:00)
To: Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Islay] McFadyens of Bowmore, Islay

Hi Flora,

 

Thank-you for that, I have so much info I need to digest and collate and will check further if there is a connection – thank-you!

 

Hopefully a member can point me in the right direction for the database of Islay Gravestones and Photos

 

Philip Hubsmith, Erskine, Scotland

 

From: Flora MacAffer
Sent: 21 January 2021 21:05
To: Islay@scotland-genealogy.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Islay] McFadyens of Bowmore, Islay

 

Hi Philip Hubsmith

 

You may already have the following information:-

 

Donald McFadyen married Margaret Carmichael (my great grand aunt) 20 Dec 1894 in Bowmore.

 

Their daughter Ann was born 16 Aug 1896 in Shore Street, Bowmore.

Ann died 07 Nov 1962 in Aberdeen.

 

Margaret died 11 Aug 1902.

 

I am happy to send copies of certificates if you don’t already have them. 

 

Flora MacAffer

Bowmore, Islay 

 



 

 


Re: McFadyens of Bowmore, Islay

Philip Hubsmith
 

Hi Flora,

 

Thank-you for that, I have so much info I need to digest and collate and will check further if there is a connection

 

Hopefully a member can point us in the right direction for the database of Islay Gravestones and Photos referred to in previous correspondence by Roger McWee

 

Thank-you!

 

Philip Hubsmith, Erskine, Scotland

 

From: Glynn Currie
Sent: 21 January 2021 21:21
To: Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Islay] McFadyens of Bowmore, Islay

 

Hi Philip,

Your message caught my attention. I too have a number of ancestors buried in the New Church Cemetery in Bowmore as 3 of my grandparents are descended from Islay residents. If there is a set of photographs I would love to see them.

You also mentioned the McFadyen family. While I have been too busy with other parts of my family trees, our line does intersect with the McFadyens. My paternal great grandparents were Donald Currie (1845 - 1904) and Catherine McFadyen (1851 - 1933). Catherine was the daughter of John McFadyen (b. 1803 in Kildalton) and Margaret McIntyre (b. Kildalton). Unfortunately that is all the information which I have.

Glynn Currie

Vancouver Island, Canada

 

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Re: McFadyens of Bowmore, Islay

Philip Hubsmith
 

Hi Flora,

 

Thank-you for that, I have so much info I need to digest and collate and will check further if there is a connection – thank-you!

 

Hopefully a member can point me in the right direction for the database of Islay Gravestones and Photos

 

Philip Hubsmith, Erskine, Scotland

 

From: Flora MacAffer
Sent: 21 January 2021 21:05
To: Islay@scotland-genealogy.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Islay] McFadyens of Bowmore, Islay

 

Hi Philip Hubsmith

 

You may already have the following information:-

 

Donald McFadyen married Margaret Carmichael (my great grand aunt) 20 Dec 1894 in Bowmore.

 

Their daughter Ann was born 16 Aug 1896 in Shore Street, Bowmore.

Ann died 07 Nov 1962 in Aberdeen.

 

Margaret died 11 Aug 1902.

 

I am happy to send copies of certificates if you don’t already have them. 

 

Flora MacAffer

Bowmore, Islay 

 



 

 

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