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Re: Poor house later called Gortonvoggie
Dbmckellar
Catherine Currie. Was she married to Dugald McLachlan? From Kilfinan?
Don McKellar
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From: L MOON <moonjett@...> To: Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io <Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io> Sent: Tue, Oct 27, 2020 1:29 am Subject: Re: [Islay] Poor house later called Gortonvoggie Hi Janet and all
I see where you mentioned information taken from the Poor Book of Kilarrow. Is that Book available for searching someplace ?
I, too, am searching for my CURRIE ancestors of Islay. My gr-grandfather, Archibald CURRIE was born around 1838 on Islay. He immigrated to Central Ontario probably around 1865. On his 1871 Ontario, Canada marriage to Flora GILCHRIST, he gave his parents names as James and Lizzie CURRIE. I have been exploring the possible relationship of a DNA Match whose ancestor was Mary CURRIE born about 1841 on Islay, and gave her parents’ names as James CURRIE and Eliza LYNCH. We have found no record of their coming to Canada or of their parents on Islay. Perhaps they were in a poor house and sent away from there.
The Poor Book of Kilarrow provide a clue.
Lois Moon
From: Janet Chubb
Sent: October 27, 2020 12:37 AM To: Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io Subject: Re: [Islay] Poor house later called Gortonvoggie I do not know when Donald Currie or his wife Catherine Sinclair Currie passed away. I found a death record for their daughter Catherine Currie who was a sister to Alexander Currie who passed away in the Poorhouse, on 13 March 1874. She never married.
Donald Currie and Catherine Sinclair Currie children are:
Catherine Currie 1784 died 13 March 1874 in the Poorhouse
Mary Currie born 3 Feb 1787 husband unknown.
Iver Currie 18 Dec 1791 may have moved to the States not sure
Ann Currie 10 Dec 1796 husband unknown
Alexander Currie 1797 married Mary Buie from Jura moved 1851 on the Sea Walrus to Canada, they settled in Grey Co Ontario.
This is all the children of Donald Currie and Catherine Sinclair Currie have.
There is this from the Poor Book of Kilarrow c 1852 page 29
In 1868 Catherine Currie was aged 84 and housed in the Poor house in Bowmore. Her parents were confirmed as Donald Currie a labourer and Catherine Sinclair both deceased at this time
The thing is you can believe all you want but need proof. Which is hard to find the further a person goes back.
Have a good day
Janet
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From: Anne Goeden
Sent: October 26, 2020 6:17 PM To: Islay@scotland-genealogy.groups.io Subject: [Islay] Poor house later called Gortonvoggie Hello:
I've found a reference on My Heritage to the deaths of Donald Currie who died just before 1851 in this poorhouse and his wife Catharine Sinclair who passed away shortly after.
I and my cousins are matching via DNA to some of the descendants of Alexander Currie 1798-1866 (son of the above couple)
I'm trying to figure out if my ggg grandmother Mary Currie 1794-1877 and her brother Donald Currie 1806-1877 were siblings of Alexander. We believe the mother of Mary and Donald was a Sinclair. If they weren't siblings they might have been first cousins.
Anyway, would the death records for the poorhouse (c 1850/51) be in the parish records? or was there a separate register at the poorhouse? Also might there be any poorhouse admission records that might shed light on this couple? ( who could be my gggg grandparents)
Thanks for any help.
Anne Goeden
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Re: Poor house later called Gortonvoggie
L MOON
Hi Janet and all
I see where you mentioned information taken from the Poor Book of Kilarrow. Is that Book available for searching someplace ?
I, too, am searching for my CURRIE ancestors of Islay. My gr-grandfather, Archibald CURRIE was born around 1838 on Islay. He immigrated to Central Ontario probably around 1865. On his 1871 Ontario, Canada marriage to Flora GILCHRIST, he gave his parents names as James and Lizzie CURRIE. I have been exploring the possible relationship of a DNA Match whose ancestor was Mary CURRIE born about 1841 on Islay, and gave her parents’ names as James CURRIE and Eliza LYNCH. We have found no record of their coming to Canada or of their parents on Islay. Perhaps they were in a poor house and sent away from there.
The Poor Book of Kilarrow provide a clue.
Lois Moon
From: Janet Chubb
Sent: October 27, 2020 12:37 AM To: Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io Subject: Re: [Islay] Poor house later called Gortonvoggie
I do not know when Donald Currie or his wife Catherine Sinclair Currie passed away. I found a death record for their daughter Catherine Currie who was a sister to Alexander Currie who passed away in the Poorhouse, on 13 March 1874. She never married.
Donald Currie and Catherine Sinclair Currie children are: Catherine Currie 1784 died 13 March 1874 in the Poorhouse Mary Currie born 3 Feb 1787 husband unknown. Iver Currie 18 Dec 1791 may have moved to the States not sure Ann Currie 10 Dec 1796 husband unknown Alexander Currie 1797 married Mary Buie from Jura moved 1851 on the Sea Walrus to Canada, they settled in Grey Co Ontario.
This is all the children of Donald Currie and Catherine Sinclair Currie have.
There is this from the Poor Book of Kilarrow c 1852 page 29 In 1868 Catherine Currie was aged 84 and housed in the Poor house in Bowmore. Her parents were confirmed as Donald Currie a labourer and Catherine Sinclair both deceased at this time
The thing is you can believe all you want but need proof. Which is hard to find the further a person goes back.
Have a good day
Janet
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From: Anne Goeden
Hello:
I've found a reference on My Heritage to the deaths of Donald Currie who died just before 1851 in this poorhouse and his wife Catharine Sinclair who passed away shortly after.
I and my cousins are matching via DNA to some of the descendants of Alexander Currie 1798-1866 (son of the above couple)
I'm trying to figure out if my ggg grandmother Mary Currie 1794-1877 and her brother Donald Currie 1806-1877 were siblings of Alexander. We believe the mother of Mary and Donald was a Sinclair. If they weren't siblings they might have been first cousins.
Anyway, would the death records for the poorhouse (c 1850/51) be in the parish records? or was there a separate register at the poorhouse? Also might there be any poorhouse admission records that might shed light on this couple? ( who could be my gggg grandparents)
Thanks for any help.
Anne Goeden
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Re: Poor house later called Gortonvoggie
Janet Chubb
I do not know when Donald Currie or his wife Catherine Sinclair Currie passed away. I found a death record for their daughter Catherine Currie who was a sister to Alexander Currie who passed away in the Poorhouse, on 13 March 1874. She never married.
Donald Currie and Catherine Sinclair Currie children are: Catherine Currie 1784 died 13 March 1874 in the Poorhouse Mary Currie born 3 Feb 1787 husband unknown. Iver Currie 18 Dec 1791 may have moved to the States not sure Ann Currie 10 Dec 1796 husband unknown Alexander Currie 1797 married Mary Buie from Jura moved 1851 on the Sea Walrus to Canada, they settled in Grey Co Ontario.
This is all the children of Donald Currie and Catherine Sinclair Currie have.
There is this from the Poor Book of Kilarrow c 1852 page 29 In 1868 Catherine Currie was aged 84 and housed in the Poor house in Bowmore. Her parents were confirmed as Donald Currie a labourer and Catherine Sinclair both deceased at this time
The thing is you can believe all you want but need proof. Which is hard to find the further a person goes back.
Have a good day
Janet
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: Anne Goeden
Sent: October 26, 2020 6:17 PM To: Islay@scotland-genealogy.groups.io Subject: [Islay] Poor house later called Gortonvoggie
Hello:
I've found a reference on My Heritage to the deaths of Donald Currie who died just before 1851 in this poorhouse and his wife Catharine Sinclair who passed away shortly after.
I and my cousins are matching via DNA to some of the descendants of Alexander Currie 1798-1866 (son of the above couple)
I'm trying to figure out if my ggg grandmother Mary Currie 1794-1877 and her brother Donald Currie 1806-1877 were siblings of Alexander. We believe the mother of Mary and Donald was a Sinclair. If they weren't siblings they might have been first cousins.
Anyway, would the death records for the poorhouse (c 1850/51) be in the parish records? or was there a separate register at the poorhouse? Also might there be any poorhouse admission records that might shed light on this couple? ( who could be my gggg grandparents)
Thanks for any help.
Anne Goeden
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Poor house later called Gortonvoggie
Anne Goeden
Hello: I've found a reference on My Heritage to the deaths of Donald Currie who died just before 1851 in this poorhouse and his wife Catharine Sinclair who passed away shortly after. I and my cousins are matching via DNA to some of the descendants of Alexander Currie 1798-1866 (son of the above couple) I'm trying to figure out if my ggg grandmother Mary Currie 1794-1877 and her brother Donald Currie 1806-1877 were siblings of Alexander. We believe the mother of Mary and Donald was a Sinclair. If they weren't siblings they might have been first cousins. Anyway, would the death records for the poorhouse (c 1850/51) be in the parish records? or was there a separate register at the poorhouse? Also might there be any poorhouse admission records that might shed light on this couple? ( who could be my gggg grandparents) Thanks for any help. Anne Goeden
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Re: Cemetery Index Question
GREG FERGUSON
Sorry my mistake I should have looked closer at the geography of Argyll. Perhaps someone here might have knowledge of the Cemetery anyways and able to share. I was also wondering tonight if many in this Islay group have taken the Ancestry DNA test ? I'm specifically interested in those that might share DNA from the following surnames Ferguson, McArthur, Gillespie, Adair, and Whyte. Others would be Currie, Hyndman, Jamieson mostly from Bowmore, Kilmeny dating back to ancestors between 1760 -1830 time frame Ferguson Went to Paisley, Renfrewshire for 1841 Census then immigrated to Oro, Simcoe, Ontario, Canada about 1850.
On Saturday, October 24, 2020, 05:47:32 p.m. CDT, John Kemplen via groups.io <john.kemplen@...> wrote:
Hello Greg Could I enquire why you have posted this query to the Islay
list? Inverchaolain is on the Cowal peninsula of Argyll rather
than on the Isle of Islay, Argyll. I have links to both
Inverchaolain and Islay. My McKellar ancestors can be traced back
to Inverchaolain parish, but they moved to Bute and then around
1840 two of them and their wives moved to Islay. Although I can't
help you with your query, I would be interested to hear the answer
if you get one. I do not think it is very likely that any of my
ancestors would be buried at Inverchaolain Church because
Inverchaolain looks, to modern eyes, to be a very strange parish,
straggling all the way round Loch Striven with no direct roads
connecting the eastern and western parts. It made perfect sense
in the old days, because there weren't many roads anywhere and it
was often easier to get around by boat, so centring a parish on a
loch made good sense. However, Inverchaolain Church is on the
east shore of Loch Striven and I think there may have been another
church or churches serving the parts of the parish on the west
shore of Loch Striven and the north-east shore of the Kyles of
Bute, where I believe my ancestors lived. I am descended from one
of the two brothers who moved to Islay around 1840. My paternal
gggg-grandmother was a Margaret Brown from Inverchaolain, born
1763. Good luck with your quest. John Kemplen
On 24/10/2020 20:55, GREG FERGUSON via
groups.io wrote:
Is anyone aware of an index
for the Inverchaolain
Church, Churchyard
and how one might get a
copy?
Is there a website that has
pictures of headstones?
I'm interested in Whyte or
White , Ferguson
possibly Brown, Taylor and
Adair.
NS07NE 2.01 09096 75282 INVENTORY OF GRAVEYARD AND CEMETERY SITES IN SCOTLAND REFERENCE: N.B. This reference applies collectively to NS07NE 2.01 and NS07NE 2.023 Address: Inverchaolain Church Churchyard and Churchyard Extension Postcode: PA23 7UN Status: In current use for burials Size: Churchyard: 0.23 hectares, 0.56 acres; Churchyard Extension: 0.09 hectares, 0.23 acres TOIDs: Number of gravestones: 227 Earliest gravestone: 1732 Most recent gravestone: 2003 Description: Burial ground associated with a church Data
Sources: OS MasterMap checked 22 September 2005;
Graveyard Recording Form dated 6 March 2003
Thank you
Greg Ferguson
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Re: Cemetery Index Question
John Kemplen
Hello Greg Could I enquire why you have posted this query to the Islay
list? Inverchaolain is on the Cowal peninsula of Argyll rather
than on the Isle of Islay, Argyll. I have links to both
Inverchaolain and Islay. My McKellar ancestors can be traced back
to Inverchaolain parish, but they moved to Bute and then around
1840 two of them and their wives moved to Islay. Although I can't
help you with your query, I would be interested to hear the answer
if you get one. I do not think it is very likely that any of my
ancestors would be buried at Inverchaolain Church because
Inverchaolain looks, to modern eyes, to be a very strange parish,
straggling all the way round Loch Striven with no direct roads
connecting the eastern and western parts. It made perfect sense
in the old days, because there weren't many roads anywhere and it
was often easier to get around by boat, so centring a parish on a
loch made good sense. However, Inverchaolain Church is on the
east shore of Loch Striven and I think there may have been another
church or churches serving the parts of the parish on the west
shore of Loch Striven and the north-east shore of the Kyles of
Bute, where I believe my ancestors lived. I am descended from one
of the two brothers who moved to Islay around 1840. My paternal
gggg-grandmother was a Margaret Brown from Inverchaolain, born
1763. Good luck with your quest. John Kemplen
On 24/10/2020 20:55, GREG FERGUSON via
groups.io wrote:
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Cemetery Index Question
GREG FERGUSON
Is anyone aware of an index for the Inverchaolain Church, Churchyard and how one might get a copy? Is there a website that has pictures of headstones? I'm interested in Whyte or White , Ferguson possibly Brown, Taylor and Adair. NS07NE 2.01 09096 75282 INVENTORY OF GRAVEYARD AND CEMETERY SITES IN SCOTLAND REFERENCE: N.B. This reference applies collectively to NS07NE 2.01 and NS07NE 2.023 Address: Inverchaolain Church Churchyard and Churchyard Extension Postcode: PA23 7UN Status: In current use for burials Size: Churchyard: 0.23 hectares, 0.56 acres; Churchyard Extension: 0.09 hectares, 0.23 acres TOIDs: Number of gravestones: 227 Earliest gravestone: 1732 Most recent gravestone: 2003 Description: Burial ground associated with a church Data Sources: OS MasterMap checked 22 September 2005; Graveyard Recording Form dated 6 March 2003 Thank you Greg Ferguson
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Re: REPLY : [Islay] Minister William Campbell (1853-1893) for the Established Free Church of Scotland, Kildalton Parish
Allan Moore
Great Faith
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I know where to stay next time I am up in the NWT! Allan Calgary
On Oct 21, 2020, at 16:55, Embleton House <ehouse@theedge.ca> wrote:
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Re: REPLY : [Islay] Minister William Campbell (1853-1893) for the Established Free Church of Scotland, Kildalton Parish
Embleton House
I am sorry to hear that. Our community after being Covid free for several months just had three presumptive cases reported. We are all waiting to hear if they have it or not. I am still struggling to get a bunch of new things set up to see our business through all this. A lot of learning for a old girl like me. Never thought I would be building web pages and learning how ecomerce hooks to it and booking engines. My brain is almost fired but it is keeping this business afloat I hope until this virus is gone and I can sell and retire and start doing what old ladies do
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As ever faith Embleton House B&B Licence # 009-002809 5203 52 Street Yellowknife, NT. Canada, X1A 1T8 Ph: 1-867-873-2892 Ext: 0 Ph: Toll free in North America: 1-888-909-5203 Fax: 1-867-873-4927
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From: Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io <Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cas Houston Sent: October 20, 2020 3:43 AM To: Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io Subject: Re: REPLY : [Islay] Minister William Campbell (1853-1893) for the Established Free Church of Scotland, Kildalton Parish Hi Faith, Nice to hear from you again, all is well here too so far, although I lost a good friend to Cov-19 early in the year. Best Regards Charles ========== On 20-Oct-20 3:40 AM, Embleton House wrote: Hi Cas Houston-- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com
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Re: REPLY : [Islay] Minister William Campbell (1853-1893) for the Established Free Church of Scotland, Kildalton Parish
Cas Houston <cmcfhouston@...>
Hi Faith,
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Nice to hear from you again, all is well here too so far, although I lost a good friend to Cov-19 early in the year. Best Regards Charles ==========
On 20-Oct-20 3:40 AM, Embleton House wrote:
Hi Cas Houston
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Re: Minister William Campbell (1853-1893) for the Established Free Church of Scotland, Kildalton Parish
Roger
Nae bother only glad to help and I hope your Dad gets as much out of it as I did researching it
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Best of luck to you all Roger
On 20 Oct 2020, at 16:28, Liz D <elizbethann@...> wrote:
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Re: Minister William Campbell (1853-1893) for the Established Free Church of Scotland, Kildalton Parish
Liz D <elizbethann@...>
Roger I tried replying directly to your emails but I kept getting a delivery error message, which was strange given that I was receiving your emails and had responded previously.
I would like to thank you all for helping me with my branch of the Campbell family. Without your assistance and collaboration it would have taken me many years to gather all this information alone. Your kindness means such a lot to me because my father was recently diagnosed with stage 3 lung cancer and this information will lift his spirits tremendously. I truly appreciate everyone's efforts. God bless and keep safe!
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Re: Minister William Campbell (1853-1893) for the Established Free Church of Scotland, Kildalton Parish
Roger
Hi Eliz,
Im afraid this isnt the same Colin Islay Campbell who was born 1885 the son
of William Campbell & Jessie Campbell, its very confusing but Charles has it
right in his Campbell Tree.
Regards Roger
From: Liz D
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 3:37 PM
Subject: Re: [Islay] Minister William Campbell (1853-1893) for the
Established Free Church of Scotland, Kildalton Parish This was listed on the Queensland, Australia Government of Births, Deaths, and Marriages Website
Death Registration: Colin Islay Campbell Death date: 29/12/1970 Mother's name: Jessie Sinclair Father/parent's name: William Campbell Registration details: 1971/C/1024
Retrieved from: https://www.familyhistory.bdm.qld.gov.au/details/558e9f22a69e2a5a67924fb051fd883f7202a4790c30daaeef4715608f113253
However there was this listing there too:
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Hi Elizabeth,
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Re: Minister William Campbell (1853-1893) for the Established Free Church of Scotland, Kildalton Parish
elizbethann@...
This was listed on the Queensland, Australia Government of Births, Deaths, and Marriages Website
Death Registration: Colin Islay Campbell Death date: 29/12/1970 Mother's name: Jessie Sinclair Father/parent's name: William Campbell Registration details: 1971/C/1024
Retrieved from: https://www.familyhistory.bdm.qld.gov.au/details/558e9f22a69e2a5a67924fb051fd883f7202a4790c30daaeef4715608f113253
However there was this listing there too:
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From: Cas Houston
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 8:29 PM To: Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io Subject: Re: [Islay] Minister William Campbell (1853-1893) for the Established Free Church of Scotland, Kildalton Parish
Hi Elizabeth,
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REPLY : [Islay] Minister William Campbell (1853-1893) for the Established Free Church of Scotland, Kildalton Parish
Embleton House
Hi Cas Houston
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I just wanted to tell you that this is faith Harvey Embleton Not Elizabeth but I think this family tree may fir with mine also I will check it out. Hope you are staying well. All is well in Canada's NWT Faith Embleton House B&B Licence # 009-002809 5203 52 Street Yellowknife, NT. Canada, X1A 1T8 Ph: 1-867-873-2892 Ext: 0 Ph: Toll free in North America: 1-888-909-5203 Fax: 1-867-873-4927
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From: Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io <Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cas Houston Sent: October 19, 2020 2:41 PM To: Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io Subject: Re: [Islay] Minister William Campbell (1853-1893) for the Established Free Church of Scotland, Kildalton Parish Hi Elizabeth, Looks like Jessie's sister Catherine Mary Campbell married a John Sinclair. I think your two Campbell trees will go as below. Good luck with your research. Regards Charles ================= First Generation 1. Alexander CAMPBELL was born about 1765 in Scotland but not Argyllshire on 1841 Census. In Jun 1841 he was a Farmer in Inverinachy, Kilchrenan And Dalavich, Argyll, Scotland. He died after Jun 1841 Janet THOMSON was born about 1782. Alexander CAMPBELL and Janet THOMSON had the following children: +2 i. John CAMPBELL, born 24 Aug 1803, Kilchrenan And Dalavich, Argyll, Scotland. +3 ii. Colin CAMPBELL, born 28 Aug 1805, Kilchrenan, Argyll, Scotland; married Elizabeth PROCTOR, 11 May 1846. 4 iii. Margaret CAMPBELL was born on 4 Dec 1807 in Kilchrenan And Dalavich, Argyll, Scotland. 5 iv. Jean CAMPBELL was born on 24 Dec 1809 in Kilchrenan And Dalavich, Argyll, Scotland. Second Generation 2. John CAMPBELL (Alexander-1) was born on 24 Aug 1803 in Kilchrenan And Dalavich, Argyll, Scotland. In Apr 1871 he was a Farmer 100 acres 12 arable in Cabrachan Farm House. Margaret MACTAVISH, daughter of MCKELLAR, was born in 1813 in Kilmartin, Argyll, Scotland. She died in 1872 at the age of 59 in Kilmore, Argyll, Scotland. John CAMPBELL and Margaret MACTAVISH had the following children: 6 i. Janet CAMPBELL was born on 19 Dec 1839 in Inverinachy, Kilchrenan And Dalavich, Argyll, Scotland. She died before 1847 at the age of 8. +7 ii. Alexander CAMPBELL, born 4 Jan 1842, Kilchrenan And Dalavich, Argyll, Scotland; married Catherine MCKELLAR, 1875, Kilmartin, Argyll, Scotland. 8 iii. Janet CAMPBELL was born in 1847 in Kilmore, Argyll, Scotland. 9 iv. Donald CAMPBELL was born in 1851 in Kilmore & Kilbride, Argyll, Scotland. 10 v. Isabella CAMPBELL was born in 1853 in Kilmore & Kilbride, Argyll, Scotland. 11 vi. Colin CAMPBELL was born in 1857 in Kilmore & Kilbride, Argyll, Scotland. 3. Colin CAMPBELL (Alexander-1) was born on 28 Aug 1805 in Kilchrenan, Argyll, Scotland. In Apr 1861 he was a Farmer in Drimdarroch Farm,Dalavich, Argyll, Scotland. Colin CAMPBELL and Elizabeth PROCTOR were married on 11 May 1846 at Kilchrenan & Dalvich, Argyll. Elizabeth PROCTOR, daughter of George PROCTOR and Elizabeth LIGHTBOURN, was born in 1816 in Muckairn, Argyll, Scotland Re 1861 Census. She died in 1881 at the age of 65 in Kilninian & Kilmore, Argyll, Scotland. Colin CAMPBELL and Elizabeth PROCTOR had the following children: +12 i. Janet Thomson "Jessie" CAMPBELL, born 11 Mar 1847, Dalavich, Argyll, Scotland; married Roderick MCLELLAN, 1875, Kilninian & Kilmore, Argyll, Scotland. 13 ii. Alexander CAMPBELL was born on 11 Oct 1848 in Dalavich, Argyll, Scotland Re 1881 Census. +14 iii. William CAMPBELL, born 25 Apr 1850, Dalavich, Argyll, Scotland Re 1881 Census; married Jessie CAMPBELL, 7 Mar 1883, Alexandra Hotel, Glasgow. 15 iv. Elizabeth CAMPBELL was born on 25 Jul 1851 in Dalavich, Argyll, Scotland. 16 v. Mary CAMPBELL was born in 1853 in Dalavich, Argyll, Scotland Re 1881 Census. 17 vi. Colin CAMPBELL was born in 1855 in Dalavich, Argyll, Scotland Re 1881 Census. 18 vii. Christina "Christy" CAMPBELL was born on 3 Mar 1857 in Dalavich, Argyll, Scotland. She died in 1859 at the age of 2 in Dalavich, Argyll, Scotland Re SRO 517/2 2. +19 viii. Margaret Ann CAMPBELL, born 6 May 1859, Drimdarroch Farm, Dalavich, Argyll, Scotland Re 1861/1881 Census; married Donald FLETCHER, 1881, Kilninian & Kilmore, Argyll, Scotland. 20 ix. Ann CAMPBELL was born on 26 Apr 1862 in Drimdarroch farm, Dalavich, Argyll, Scotland. Third Generation 7. Alexander CAMPBELL (John-2, Alexander-1) was born on 4 Jan 1842 in Kilchrenan And Dalavich, Argyll, Scotland. In Apr 1881 he was a Farmer 50 acres 15 arable in Cabrachan, Kilmore, Argyll, Scotland. Alexander CAMPBELL and Catherine MCKELLAR were married in 1875 in Kilmartin, Argyll, Scotland. Catherine MCKELLAR was born in 1846 in Kilbride, Argyll, Scotland. Alexander CAMPBELL and Catherine MCKELLAR had the following children: 21 i. Catherine CAMPBELL was born in 1877 in Cabrachan, Kilmore, Argyll, Scotland. 22 ii. Margaret CAMPBELL was born in 1879 in Cabrachan, Kilmore, Argyll, Scotland. 23 iii. Sarah CAMPBELL was born about Feb 1881 in Cabrachan, Kilmore, Argyll, Scotland. 12. Janet Thomson "Jessie" CAMPBELL (Colin-2, Alexander-1) was born on 11 Mar 1847 in Dalavich, Argyll, Scotland. Janet Thomson "Jessie" CAMPBELL and Roderick MCLELLAN were married in 1875 in Kilninian & Kilmore, Argyll, Scotland. Roderick MCLELLAN was born about 1844. Roderick MCLELLAN and Janet Thomson CAMPBELL had the following child: 24 i. Mary McDonald MCLELLAN was born in 1876 in Govan, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland. 14. William CAMPBELL (Colin-2, Alexander-1) was born on 25 Apr 1850 in Dalavich, Argyll, Scotland Re 1881 Census. William CAMPBELL and Jessie CAMPBELL were married on 7 Mar 1883 in Alexandra Hotel, Glasgow. Jessie CAMPBELL, daughter of Peter CAMPBELL and Christian MCGIBBON, was born about 1848 in Killin, Perth, Scotland. She died in 1888. William CAMPBELL and Jessie CAMPBELL had the following children: 25 i. Christina CAMPBELL was born in 1884 in Kildalton, Argyll, Scotland. 26 ii. Colin CAMPBELL was born on 12 May 1885 in The Manse, Kildalton, Islay, Argyll, Scotland. 19. Margaret Ann CAMPBELL (Colin-2, Alexander-1) was born on 6 May 1859 in Drimdarroch Farm, Dalavich, Argyll, Scotland Re 1861/1881 Census. Margaret Ann CAMPBELL and Donald FLETCHER were married in 1881 in Kilninian & Kilmore, Argyll, Scotland. Donald FLETCHER was born about 1855. ========= First Generation 1. Peter CAMPBELL was born about 1810. Peter CAMPBELL and Christian MCGIBBON were married on 17 Nov 1833 in Kenmore, Argyll, Scotland. Christian MCGIBBON was born about 1814. Peter CAMPBELL and Christian MCGIBBON had the following children: 2 i. John CAMPBELL was born on 7 Nov 1834 in Killin, Perth, Scotland. 3 ii. Christian CAMPBELL was born on 13 Sep 1836 in Killin, Perth, Scotland. 4 iii. Jane CAMPBELL was born on 23 Apr 1838 in Killin, Perth, Scotland. 5 iv. Jean CAMPBELL was born on 3 Jun 1842 in Killin, Perth, Scotland. 6 v. Peter CAMPBELL was born on 3 Jun 1842 in Killin, Perth, Scotland. In Apr 1881 she was a Farmer of 500 acres, 100 Arable in Ardindrochit, Torosay. +7 vi. Catherine Mary CAMPBELL, born 10 Oct 1845, Killin, Perth, Scotland; married John SINCLAIR, 1868, Glenorchy And Inishail, Argyll, Scotland 7621022; died 1911, Torosay, Argyll, Scotland. +8 vii. Jessie CAMPBELL, born 1848, Killin, Perth, Scotland; married William CAMPBELL, 7 Mar 1883, Alexandra Hotel, Glasgow; died 1888. Second Generation 7. Catherine Mary CAMPBELL (Peter-1) was born on 10 Oct 1845 in Killin, Perth, Scotland. She died in 1911 at the age of 66 in Torosay, Argyll, Scotland. Catherine Mary CAMPBELL and John SINCLAIR were married in 1868 in Glenorchy And Inishail, Argyll, Scotland 7621022. John SINCLAIR was born in 1839 in Inishail, Argyll, Scotland. In Apr 1871 he was a Farmer of 600 acres in Craignamoraig Farm, Kilchrenan And Dalavich, Argyll, Scotland. He died in 1915 at the age of 76 in Torosay, Argyll, Scotland. John SINCLAIR and Catherine Mary CAMPBELL had the following children: 9 i. Donald SINCLAIR was born in 1869 in Craignamoraig Farm, Kilchrenan And Dalavich, Argyll, Scotland. +10 ii. Christina Jessie SINCLAIR, born Mar 1871, Craignamoraig Farm, Kilchrenan And Dalavich, Argyll, Scotland; married James MERRY, 1897, Torosay, Argyll, Scotland. 11 iii. Mary SINCLAIR was born in 1873 in Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland. 8. Jessie CAMPBELL (Peter-1) was born in 1848 in Killin, Perth, Scotland. She died in 1888 at the age of 40. Jessie CAMPBELL and William CAMPBELL were married on 7 Mar 1883 in Alexandra Hotel, Glasgow. William CAMPBELL, son of Colin CAMPBELL and Elizabeth PROCTOR, was born on 25 Apr 1850 in Dalavich, Argyll, Scotland Re 1881 Census. William CAMPBELL and Jessie CAMPBELL had the following children: 12 i. Christina CAMPBELL was born in 1884 in Kildalton, Argyll, Scotland. 13 ii. Colin CAMPBELL was born on 12 May 1885 in The Manse, Kildalton, Islay, Argyll, Scotland. Third Generation 10. Christina Jessie SINCLAIR (Catherine Mary CAMPBELL-2, Peter-1) was born in Mar 1871 in Craignamoraig Farm, Kilchrenan And Dalavich, Argyll, Scotland. Christina Jessie SINCLAIR and James MERRY were married in 1897 in Torosay, Argyll, Scotland. James MERRY was born in 1859 in Torosay, Argyll, Scotland. -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com
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Re: Minister William Campbell (1853-1893) for the Established Free Church of Scotland, Kildalton Parish
Cas Houston <cmcfhouston@...>
Hi Elizabeth,
Looks like Jessie's sister Catherine Mary Campbell married a John Sinclair. I think your two Campbell trees will go as below. Good luck with your research. Regards Charles ================= First Generation 1. Alexander CAMPBELL was born about 1765 in Scotland but not Argyllshire on 1841 Census. In Jun 1841 he was a Farmer in Inverinachy, Kilchrenan And Dalavich, Argyll, Scotland. He died after Jun 1841 Janet THOMSON was born about 1782. Alexander CAMPBELL and Janet THOMSON had the following children: +2 i. John CAMPBELL, born 24 Aug 1803, Kilchrenan And Dalavich, Argyll, Scotland. +3 ii. Colin CAMPBELL, born 28 Aug 1805, Kilchrenan, Argyll, Scotland; married Elizabeth PROCTOR, 11 May 1846. 4 iii. Margaret CAMPBELL was born on 4 Dec 1807 in Kilchrenan And Dalavich, Argyll, Scotland. 5 iv. Jean CAMPBELL was born on 24 Dec 1809 in Kilchrenan And Dalavich, Argyll, Scotland. Second Generation 2. John CAMPBELL (Alexander-1) was born on 24 Aug 1803 in Kilchrenan And Dalavich, Argyll, Scotland. In Apr 1871 he was a Farmer 100 acres 12 arable in Cabrachan Farm House. Margaret MACTAVISH, daughter of MCKELLAR, was born in 1813 in Kilmartin, Argyll, Scotland. She died in 1872 at the age of 59 in Kilmore, Argyll, Scotland. John CAMPBELL and Margaret MACTAVISH had the following children: 6 i. Janet CAMPBELL was born on 19 Dec 1839 in Inverinachy, Kilchrenan And Dalavich, Argyll, Scotland. She died before 1847 at the age of 8. +7 ii. Alexander CAMPBELL, born 4 Jan 1842, Kilchrenan And Dalavich, Argyll, Scotland; married Catherine MCKELLAR, 1875, Kilmartin, Argyll, Scotland. 8 iii. Janet CAMPBELL was born in 1847 in Kilmore, Argyll, Scotland. 9 iv. Donald CAMPBELL was born in 1851 in Kilmore & Kilbride, Argyll, Scotland. 10 v. Isabella CAMPBELL was born in 1853 in Kilmore & Kilbride, Argyll, Scotland. 11 vi. Colin CAMPBELL was born in 1857 in Kilmore & Kilbride, Argyll, Scotland. 3. Colin CAMPBELL (Alexander-1) was born on 28 Aug 1805 in Kilchrenan, Argyll, Scotland. In Apr 1861 he was a Farmer in Drimdarroch Farm,Dalavich, Argyll, Scotland. Colin CAMPBELL and Elizabeth PROCTOR were married on 11 May 1846 at Kilchrenan & Dalvich, Argyll. Elizabeth PROCTOR, daughter of George PROCTOR and Elizabeth LIGHTBOURN, was born in 1816 in Muckairn, Argyll, Scotland Re 1861 Census. She died in 1881 at the age of 65 in Kilninian & Kilmore, Argyll, Scotland. Colin CAMPBELL and Elizabeth PROCTOR had the following children: +12 i. Janet Thomson "Jessie" CAMPBELL, born 11 Mar 1847, Dalavich, Argyll, Scotland; married Roderick MCLELLAN, 1875, Kilninian & Kilmore, Argyll, Scotland. 13 ii. Alexander CAMPBELL was born on 11 Oct 1848 in Dalavich, Argyll, Scotland Re 1881 Census. +14 iii. William CAMPBELL, born 25 Apr 1850, Dalavich, Argyll, Scotland Re 1881 Census; married Jessie CAMPBELL, 7 Mar 1883, Alexandra Hotel, Glasgow. 15 iv. Elizabeth CAMPBELL was born on 25 Jul 1851 in Dalavich, Argyll, Scotland. 16 v. Mary CAMPBELL was born in 1853 in Dalavich, Argyll, Scotland Re 1881 Census. 17 vi. Colin CAMPBELL was born in 1855 in Dalavich, Argyll, Scotland Re 1881 Census. 18 vii. Christina "Christy" CAMPBELL was born on 3 Mar 1857 in Dalavich, Argyll, Scotland. She died in 1859 at the age of 2 in Dalavich, Argyll, Scotland Re SRO 517/2 2. +19 viii. Margaret Ann CAMPBELL, born 6 May 1859, Drimdarroch Farm, Dalavich, Argyll, Scotland Re 1861/1881 Census; married Donald FLETCHER, 1881, Kilninian & Kilmore, Argyll, Scotland. 20 ix. Ann CAMPBELL was born on 26 Apr 1862 in Drimdarroch farm, Dalavich, Argyll, Scotland. Third Generation 7. Alexander CAMPBELL (John-2, Alexander-1) was born on 4 Jan 1842 in Kilchrenan And Dalavich, Argyll, Scotland. In Apr 1881 he was a Farmer 50 acres 15 arable in Cabrachan, Kilmore, Argyll, Scotland. Alexander CAMPBELL and Catherine MCKELLAR were married in 1875 in Kilmartin, Argyll, Scotland. Catherine MCKELLAR was born in 1846 in Kilbride, Argyll, Scotland. Alexander CAMPBELL and Catherine MCKELLAR had the following children: 21 i. Catherine CAMPBELL was born in 1877 in Cabrachan, Kilmore, Argyll, Scotland. 22 ii. Margaret CAMPBELL was born in 1879 in Cabrachan, Kilmore, Argyll, Scotland. 23 iii. Sarah CAMPBELL was born about Feb 1881 in Cabrachan, Kilmore, Argyll, Scotland. 12. Janet Thomson "Jessie" CAMPBELL (Colin-2, Alexander-1) was born on 11 Mar 1847 in Dalavich, Argyll, Scotland. Janet Thomson "Jessie" CAMPBELL and Roderick MCLELLAN were married in 1875 in Kilninian & Kilmore, Argyll, Scotland. Roderick MCLELLAN was born about 1844. Roderick MCLELLAN and Janet Thomson CAMPBELL had the following child: 24 i. Mary McDonald MCLELLAN was born in 1876 in Govan, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland. 14. William CAMPBELL (Colin-2, Alexander-1) was born on 25 Apr 1850 in Dalavich, Argyll, Scotland Re 1881 Census. William CAMPBELL and Jessie CAMPBELL were married on 7 Mar 1883 in Alexandra Hotel, Glasgow. Jessie CAMPBELL, daughter of Peter CAMPBELL and Christian MCGIBBON, was born about 1848 in Killin, Perth, Scotland. She died in 1888. William CAMPBELL and Jessie CAMPBELL had the following children: 25 i. Christina CAMPBELL was born in 1884 in Kildalton, Argyll, Scotland. 26 ii. Colin CAMPBELL was born on 12 May 1885 in The Manse, Kildalton, Islay, Argyll, Scotland. 19. Margaret Ann CAMPBELL (Colin-2, Alexander-1) was born on 6 May 1859 in Drimdarroch Farm, Dalavich, Argyll, Scotland Re 1861/1881 Census. Margaret Ann CAMPBELL and Donald FLETCHER were married in 1881 in Kilninian & Kilmore, Argyll, Scotland. Donald FLETCHER was born about 1855. ========= First Generation 1. Peter CAMPBELL was born about 1810. Peter CAMPBELL and Christian MCGIBBON were married on 17 Nov 1833 in Kenmore, Argyll, Scotland. Christian MCGIBBON was born about 1814. Peter CAMPBELL and Christian MCGIBBON had the following children: 2 i. John CAMPBELL was born on 7 Nov 1834 in Killin, Perth, Scotland. 3 ii. Christian CAMPBELL was born on 13 Sep 1836 in Killin, Perth, Scotland. 4 iii. Jane CAMPBELL was born on 23 Apr 1838 in Killin, Perth, Scotland. 5 iv. Jean CAMPBELL was born on 3 Jun 1842 in Killin, Perth, Scotland. 6 v. Peter CAMPBELL was born on 3 Jun 1842 in Killin, Perth, Scotland. In Apr 1881 she was a Farmer of 500 acres, 100 Arable in Ardindrochit, Torosay. +7 vi. Catherine Mary CAMPBELL, born 10 Oct 1845, Killin, Perth, Scotland; married John SINCLAIR, 1868, Glenorchy And Inishail, Argyll, Scotland 7621022; died 1911, Torosay, Argyll, Scotland. +8 vii. Jessie CAMPBELL, born 1848, Killin, Perth, Scotland; married William CAMPBELL, 7 Mar 1883, Alexandra Hotel, Glasgow; died 1888. Second Generation 7. Catherine Mary CAMPBELL (Peter-1) was born on 10 Oct 1845 in Killin, Perth, Scotland. She died in 1911 at the age of 66 in Torosay, Argyll, Scotland. Catherine Mary CAMPBELL and John SINCLAIR were married in 1868 in Glenorchy And Inishail, Argyll, Scotland 7621022. John SINCLAIR was born in 1839 in Inishail, Argyll, Scotland. In Apr 1871 he was a Farmer of 600 acres in Craignamoraig Farm, Kilchrenan And Dalavich, Argyll, Scotland. He died in 1915 at the age of 76 in Torosay, Argyll, Scotland. John SINCLAIR and Catherine Mary CAMPBELL had the following children: 9 i. Donald SINCLAIR was born in 1869 in Craignamoraig Farm, Kilchrenan And Dalavich, Argyll, Scotland. +10 ii. Christina Jessie SINCLAIR, born Mar 1871, Craignamoraig Farm, Kilchrenan And Dalavich, Argyll, Scotland; married James MERRY, 1897, Torosay, Argyll, Scotland. 11 iii. Mary SINCLAIR was born in 1873 in Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland. 8. Jessie CAMPBELL (Peter-1) was born in 1848 in Killin, Perth, Scotland. She died in 1888 at the age of 40. Jessie CAMPBELL and William CAMPBELL were married on 7 Mar 1883 in Alexandra Hotel, Glasgow. William CAMPBELL, son of Colin CAMPBELL and Elizabeth PROCTOR, was born on 25 Apr 1850 in Dalavich, Argyll, Scotland Re 1881 Census. William CAMPBELL and Jessie CAMPBELL had the following children: 12 i. Christina CAMPBELL was born in 1884 in Kildalton, Argyll, Scotland. 13 ii. Colin CAMPBELL was born on 12 May 1885 in The Manse, Kildalton, Islay, Argyll, Scotland. Third Generation 10. Christina Jessie SINCLAIR (Catherine Mary CAMPBELL-2, Peter-1) was born in Mar 1871 in Craignamoraig Farm, Kilchrenan And Dalavich, Argyll, Scotland. Christina Jessie SINCLAIR and James MERRY were married in 1897 in Torosay, Argyll, Scotland. James MERRY was born in 1859 in Torosay, Argyll, Scotland. -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com
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Re: Minister William Campbell (1853-1893) for the Established Free Church of Scotland, Kildalton Parish
Iain MacIntosh <port.weymss@...>
Yes Elizabeth. That site is the government site Scottish records. You can certainly get them there. It’s a pay site, but if you have the details of who you are looking for and the dates it keeps the cost down. Regards Iain Iain
On 19 Oct 2020, at 17:19, elizbethann@... wrote:
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Re: Minister William Campbell (1853-1893) for the Established Free Church of Scotland, Kildalton Parish
Cas Houston <cmcfhouston@...>
Thanks Ian, I had suspected Wm was the son of Colin and Elizabeth
proctor as they had a lot of chidren at Dalavich as shown on the
1881 census and on familysearch.org but I had no proof, well done,
this will give Elizabeth the correct parents for her William and
it becomes obvious why his first son was a Colin. Regards Charles =======
On 19-Oct-20 1:59 PM, Iain MacIntosh
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Re: Minister William Campbell (1853-1893) for the Established Free Church of Scotland, Kildalton Parish
elizbethann@...
Iain:
Thank you for your assistance Sir. The information that you have provided to me appears the most promising based on the limited information that I have to hand. Would you recommend the www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk website for me to request a copy of the birth and marriage certificates of the dates that you have given me? Thank you in advance. Kind regards, Elizbeth Campbell
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Re: Minister William Campbell (1853-1893) for the Established Free Church of Scotland, Kildalton Parish
elizbethann@...
Charles:
Thank you so very much for the valuable information that you have provided to me. I will print it off and keep it for my personal reference. The details that Iain has submitted in response appears to be a closer match in regards to Colin Islay's birth details. At this beginning stage in my search I cannot afford to dismiss any of William Campbell's that had a son named Colin Islay. From your experience are there any Websites that you recommend where I may obtain any birth certificates, marriage certificates, or newspaper articles? I am willing to pay for such copies. Once again, thank you for your assistance.
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