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Re: McAulays

mearnsmg@btinternet.com
 

Paul,


I have not been able to pin down your Duncan in the Scottish census records, are you able to tell me where he was in the 1851 census.


I have noticed a (farm) called Kilchiaran close to Kilchoman. In the 1811 Tenants list there is a Duncan McLellan at Kilchiaran, phonetically this sounds like the placename in your email of 29th January.


I am not making any progress with my family, so any snippet might help me link up with any other snippet, one never knows.


Mike





------ Original Message ------
From: "Paul MacAuley" <pmacauley@...>
To: "Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io" <Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, 31 Jan, 2020 At 22:40
Subject: Re: [Islay] McAulays

Mike,
Thanks for taking the time to reply. There must be some relationship between the groups but I can't find it. I'm at one of those dead ends.

Paul


Roll Call - McDougall

jemooney@...
 

Hi Folks - Thank you for welcoming me into your group.  My Great Grandfather was Duncan McDougall B April 1837 in Port Ellen, Islay. Died in Nelson, BC in 1907.   His father was also Duncan McDougall.  My great grandfather was a Presbyterian Minister on Islay (I visited the Islay church in 1986).  Many of his children emigrated to Canada (primarily BC) - I have a lot of information about my Great Grandfather Duncan's descendants but very little about his ancestors.   DNA evidence provided links to other McDougall branches in Southern US and Ontario but I have little documentation as to how we are connected.  

Joy McDougall 


Re: Islay plaque"

Sharee Hughes
 

The picture definitely looks like slay, Scotland. Hope you can find out where it came from.

Sharee

On Sun, Feb 9, 2020 at 5:52 PM M. Diane Rogers <diane_rogers@...> wrote:
Just wondering if anyone else has a little Islay plaque like this one.

At its widest, about 3 1/2 inches; 4 1/2 inches long. Painted on thin
laminated? wood.

No initials or signature. On the back is a hook and a tag - in my
grandmother's hand - "Islay Island".

Found with old photos...after my grandmother was gone. I know neither
she nor my mum ever went to Islay in Scotland - and Mum not to Islay in
Ontario, or even Alberta.

However, one of my great aunts did work in the hospital in Islay,
Alberta for a while. It just occurred to me - perhaps it had been hers?
Some kind of souvenir? Although she wasn't from the Islay Scotland side
of the family. (Wish I could ask!)

Diane






Islay plaque"

M. Diane Rogers
 

Just wondering if anyone else has a little Islay plaque like this one.

At its widest, about 3 1/2 inches; 4 1/2 inches long. Painted on thin laminated? wood.

No initials or signature. On the back is a hook and a tag - in my grandmother's hand - "Islay Island".

Found with old photos...after my grandmother was gone. I know neither she nor my mum ever went to Islay in Scotland - and Mum not to Islay in Ontario, or even Alberta.

However, one of my great aunts did work in the hospital in Islay, Alberta for a while. It just occurred to me - perhaps it had been hers? Some kind of souvenir? Although she wasn't from the Islay Scotland side of the family. (Wish I could ask!)

Diane


Larrachaluil, the Oa (spelling?)

isabel vaughan
 

Interested in "Larrachaluil" (spelling uncertain). 

Located in the Oa, midway between Lurabus and Ballichatrigan.

Found it mapped in Bartholemew's 1895 Atlas.

Wonder whether anyone may know of this location, and whether anything remains of tenant dwellings or other.

If anyone knows of or has visited this location, would love to hear from you!

Isabel






Re: Lagrevege and Inverloskane

isabel vaughan
 

Hi,

I think I found the reference in The Book of Islay.

On Sunday, February 9, 2020, 11:32:54 a.m. EST, H. B. via Groups.Io <haz57cal@...> wrote:



Where would one locate that tenants list?
Thank you
On Sunday, February 9, 2020, 10:23:51 a.m. CST, isabel vaughan via Groups.Io <isabel_vaughan@...> wrote:


The 1686 Tenants List for Islay has a reference to "Lagrevege and Inverloskane".

Has anyone come across such a place (or places)?  Would love to know the location. 

Any assistance much appreciated!

Isabel



Re: Lagrevege and Inverloskane

H. B.
 


Where would one locate that tenants list?
Thank you

On Sunday, February 9, 2020, 10:23:51 a.m. CST, isabel vaughan via Groups.Io <isabel_vaughan@...> wrote:


The 1686 Tenants List for Islay has a reference to "Lagrevege and Inverloskane".

Has anyone come across such a place (or places)?  Would love to know the location. 

Any assistance much appreciated!

Isabel



Lagrevege and Inverloskane

isabel vaughan
 

The 1686 Tenants List for Islay has a reference to "Lagrevege and Inverloskane".

Has anyone come across such a place (or places)?  Would love to know the location. 

Any assistance much appreciated!

Isabel



Roll Call - Campbell Sinclair, McLean, Buie, Johnston, McClellan, McCallum, Morrison and McLachlan.

Lorne & Susan Campbell
 

 

Hi Everyone,

 

Donald CAMPBELL (c.1761-1835) and Ann "Nancy" SINCLAIR (c.1765-1835) had the following children:

i.                James CAMPBELL  (.1791-1836)  married 1827 Ann MCLEAN (1800-1892) daughter of Lachland McLean and Catherine Johnston,

ii.             Janet CAMPBELL  (c.1791-1885) married 1826 ANGUS BUIE  (c.1789-1872).

iii.            John CAMPBELL (1796-?). Nothing more is known about this child

iv.             Mary CAMPBELL (1798-1864) married 1821 Charles MCLEAN (1793-c. 1830), son of Lachland McLean and Catherine Johnston.

v.              Catherine CAMPBELL (1800-1833) married 1822 Angus JOHNSTON (1790-1832) son of John Johnston and Marion McIntyre.

vi.             Christena CAMPBELL (1801-1865) married 1827 Donald “Daniel” JOHNTSON (1793-1878), son of John Johnston and Marion McIntyre.

vii.           Ann "Nancy" CAMPBELL (1803-1886) married 1824 Dougal MCLELLAN(1802-1871), son of Angus McLellan and Isabel Campbell.

viii.          Margaret CAMPBELL (1804-1832) married John "Dougal" MCCALLUM before 1827.

ix.             Isabella "Bell" CAMPBELL (1807-?) married 1835 John MORRISON (c.1835-?).

x.              Sarah CAMPBELL (c. 1809-?) married 1839 Donald M MCLACHLAN  (c. 1814-?) 

xi.             Archibald CAMPBELL (1813-?). Nothing further is known about this child.

 

Donald and Ann Campbell emigrated to Ontario, Canada with their children, their surviving spouses and grandchildren in 1832/3.

 

Always looking for relatives of this family.

Lorne

 

 

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Re: Roll Call - Campbell, Sinclair, McIntagart, McMurchie,Cameron, Keitk, McCuaig, McFee

Lorne & Susan Campbell
 

Hi Everyone

 

I am also descended from a second Islay Campbell family.

 

Alexander CAMPBELL (c, 1771- 1841) married 1796 Mary SINCLAIR (c.1778-1853),  daughter of John Sinclair and Catherine McCuaig. They had the following children:

i.                     John CAMPBELL (1797-1876.) married Christian SINCLAIR (1796-1881, daughter of John Sinclair and Mary McIntagart.

ii.                   Hugh CAMPBELL (1800-1884) married c.1822 (1) Margaret MCMURCHY "Peggy McMurchie" (1806-1860)  and married 1862 (2) Catherine MACNAB (1836-?).

iii.                 Katherine CAMPBELL (1804-?).

iv.                 Alex CAMPBELL (1805-?).

v.                   Mary Ann CAMPBELL (c.1806 -1869) married 1821 Allan CAMERON. .

vi.                 Malcom CAMPBELL (1808-?).

vii.                Ann "Nancy" CAMPBELL (1810-1894) 1830 married John KEITH (1806-1862),  son of Nicol Keith and Mary Brown..

viii.              Archibald "Archie" CAMPBELL (1812-1868) married Ann MCCUAIG (1809-1893),  daughter of John McCuaig and Jane Gilchrist.

ix.                  Malcolm L CAMPBELL (1814-1900) married 1834 Sarah Marion MCFEE (1811-1899), daughter of Donald McFee and Isabella Campbell.

x.                   Walter CAMPBELL (1817-1873) married c. 1844 Catherine SINCLAIR (1818-1853) and married c. 1854 Elizabeth  "Ellespy" MCCUAIG (1812-1874), daughter of John McCuaig and Jane Gilchrist. 

xi.                  Catherine CAMPBELL (1820-1887) married c. 1844 Malcolm SINCLAIR (c.1816-1864).

 

Always looking to fill in some blanks.

 

Lorne

 

 

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Re: Archibald Cameron Ann Mceachern Kilchoman Islay.

Tricia
 

Hi Seymour.  I can see the families you mention.  As you said our match with dna is small so possible gens back.   My maternal line are MacDougall(McLullich) and McPhail who were in in MULL late 1700s but of course  they moved around. 


Re: Roll Call Campbell, Sinclair, McIntagart, McMurchie, Cameron, Keit, McCuaig, McFee

Lorne & Susan Campbell <lornesusan.campbell1@...>
 

Hi Everyone

 

I am also descended from a second Islay Campbell family.

 

Alexander CAMPBELL (c, 1771- 1841) married 1796 Mary SINCLAIR (c.1778-1853),  daughter of John Sinclair and Catherine McCuaig. They had the following children:

i.                     John CAMPBELL (1797-1876.) married Christian SINCLAIR (1796-1881, daughter of John Sinclair and Mary McIntagart.

ii.                   Hugh CAMPBELL (1800-1884) married c.1822 (1) Margaret MCMURCHY "Peggy McMurchie" (1806-1860)  and married 1862 (2) Catherine MACNAB (1836-?).

iii.                 Katherine CAMPBELL (1804-?).

iv.                 Alex CAMPBELL (1805-?).

v.                   Mary Ann CAMPBELL (c.1806 -1869) married 1821 Allan CAMERON. .

vi.                 Malcom CAMPBELL (1808-?).

vii.                Ann "Nancy" CAMPBELL (1810-1894) 1830 married John KEITH (1806-1862),  son of Nicol Keith and Mary Brown..

viii.              Archibald "Archie" CAMPBELL (1812-1868) married Ann MCCUAIG (1809-1893),  daughter of John McCuaig and Jane Gilchrist.

ix.                  Malcolm L CAMPBELL (1814-1900) married 1834 Sarah Marion MCFEE (1811-1899), daughter of Donald McFee and Isabella Campbell.

x.                   Walter CAMPBELL (1817-1873) married c. 1844 Catherine SINCLAIR (1818-1853) and married c. 1854 Elizabeth  "Ellespy" MCCUAIG (1812-1874), daughter of John McCuaig and Jane Gilchrist. 

xi.                  Catherine CAMPBELL (1820-1887) married c. 1844 Malcolm SINCLAIR (c.1816-1864).

 

Always looking to fill in some blanks.

 

Lorne

 


Re: Roll Call - Campbell Sinclair, McLean, Buie, Johnston, McClellan, McCallum, Morrison and McLachlan.

Lorne & Susan Campbell <lornesusan.campbell1@...>
 

Hi Everyone,

 

Donald CAMPBELL (c.1761-1835) and Ann "Nancy" SINCLAIR (c.1765-1835) had the following children:

i.                James CAMPBELL  (.1791-1836)  married 1827 Ann MCLEAN (1800-1892) daughter of Lachland McLean and Catherine Johnston,

ii.             Janet CAMPBELL  (c.1791-1885) married 1826 ANGUS BUIE  (c.1789-1872).

iii.            John CAMPBELL (1796-?). Nothing more is known about this child

iv.             Mary CAMPBELL (1798-1864) married 1821 Charles MCLEAN (1793-c. 1830), son of Lachland McLean and Catherine Johnston.

v.              Catherine CAMPBELL (1800-1833) married 1822 Angus JOHNSTON (1790-1832) son of John Johnston and Marion McIntyre.

vi.             Christena CAMPBELL (1801-1865) married 1827 Donald “Daniel” JOHNTSON (1793-1878), son of John Johnston and Marion McIntyre.

vii.           Ann "Nancy" CAMPBELL (1803-1886) married 1824 Dougal MCLELLAN(1802-1871), son of Angus McLellan and Isabel Campbell.

viii.          Margaret CAMPBELL (1804-1832) married John "Dougal" MCCALLUM before 1827.

ix.             Isabella "Bell" CAMPBELL (1807-?) married 1835 John MORRISON (c.1835-?).

x.              Sarah CAMPBELL (c. 1809-?) married 1839 Donald M MCLACHLAN  (c. 1814-?) 

xi.             Archibald CAMPBELL (1813-?). Nothing further is known about this child.

 

Donald and Ann Campbell emigrated to Ontario, Canada with their children, their surviving spouses and grandchildren in 1832/3.

 

Always looking for relatives of this family.

Lorne

 


Re: Archibald Cameron Ann Mceachern Kilchoman Islay.

Seymour Hosking
 

Hi

I'm marginally matching A174470 (5.4cM on chromosome 19). 

I'm descended from Samuel Cameron and Mary Campbell in Balitarsin (married 1789 in Kilarrow) and also from Archibald MacArthur and Margaret McNabb (married 1803 in Kildalton).

regards

Seymour


Archibald Cameron Ann Mceachern Kilchoman Islay.

Tricia
 

1841 in Kilchoman.  Archibald 40 Ann 30 with children Flora and Mary.  1841 they all live wth Ann's parents Donald and Catherine McEachearn and 2 of her sisters.     Further census  available.. Archibald born abt 1807 in Isle of Mull.     His death cert 1879 aged 72 in leek gruinart in kilchoman gives parents John Cameron and Ann McArthur.   

I believe! i could have his parents marrying in edinburgh.  John b 1786 kilmichael glassery argyll.  A soldier 91st reg.    

I have a dna match so trying to find link. 
My gedmatch A174470  and T515884.   

Tricia. 


Re: Flora Keith

Merle Duncan
 

No. My Flora is maiden name Keith and the birth date is too late as well but thank you for the response.

Merle

 

From: Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io <Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io> On Behalf Of M E Fuller
Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2020 12:18 PM
To: Islay@scotland-genealogy.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Islay] Flora Keith

 

Flora Brown Keith is my gggmother. Roger Brown is as far back as I have been able to go with er, thanks to Johan.

 

On Fri, Jan 31, 2020, 1:26 PM J LOCHRIDGE via Groups.Io <j.lochridge=btinternet.com@groups.io> wrote:

Hello, Are you looking for Flora married to Nicol Keith, in which case her maiden name was Brown.  Her father may have been Roger Brown, don't know the mother but she was born in 1806.  Apologies if it is another Flora that you seek

Regards

Johan

 

 

 

 

 

On Wednesday, 29 January 2020, 19:23:11 GMT, Merle Duncan <clanduncan@...> wrote:

 

 

I have reached a brick wall with my ancestor Flora Keith. I have a baptismal record for Janet McFadgen Apr 18 1805 stating her father's name as John McFadean and place of birth as Knock. A previous inquiry to this list got the following info: Knock is cnoc Raonistil and her probable mother is Flora Keith. This info was provided by Roger McWee several years ago. My search since for Flora Keith has not proved fruitful. Can anyone send me in the right direction?


Re: Flora Keith

M E Fuller
 

Flora Brown Keith is my gggmother. Roger Brown is as far back as I have been able to go with er, thanks to Johan.


On Fri, Jan 31, 2020, 1:26 PM J LOCHRIDGE via Groups.Io <j.lochridge=btinternet.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hello, Are you looking for Flora married to Nicol Keith, in which case her maiden name was Brown.  Her father may have been Roger Brown, don't know the mother but she was born in 1806.  Apologies if it is another Flora that you seek
Regards
Johan

 
 


On Wednesday, 29 January 2020, 19:23:11 GMT, Merle Duncan <clanduncan@...> wrote:


I have reached a brick wall with my ancestor Flora Keith. I have a baptismal record for Janet McFadgen Apr 18 1805 stating her father's name as John McFadean and place of birth as Knock. A previous inquiry to this list got the following info: Knock is cnoc Raonistil and her probable mother is Flora Keith. This info was provided by Roger McWee several years ago. My search since for Flora Keith has not proved fruitful. Can anyone send me in the right direction?


Re: Flora Keith

Merle Duncan
 

Thank you, Charles. I have been away from home with limited computer access so I apologize for the late reply. This is very helpful. It fills in a lot of blanks in that line. I remain hopeful for more details on Flora but I am realistic enough to know that may never happen.
Merle

-----Original Message-----
From: Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io <Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chas Houston
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2020 6:03 AM
To: Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Islay] Flora Keith

Hi ,

I don't have anything on Flora Keith's parentage but I have a tree for her descendents as attached.

Regards

Charles

On 29-Jan-20 7:23 PM, Merle Duncan wrote:
I have reached a brick wall with my ancestor Flora Keith. I have a
baptismal record for Janet McFadgen Apr 18 1805


Roll call Lamont and Currie

Anne Goeden
 

Hello Listers

My Islay names are Coll ( Colin) Lamont born about 1786 (at Portnellen, Kilmeny) in Islay.  His parents were Donald Lamont and Janet McKechnie/McEachern.

Coll Lamont was a dancing master and was living at Portnellan farm, Kilmeny on 1841 census. 

He was living at Loagin Farm, Kilmeny on the 1851 census.  

Coll Lamont's siblings that I know of were Archibald (married to Margaret Buie about 1811) , John (1769-1847) Godfrey ( 1773-1860), Gilbert ( 1788-1853, married to Janet Campbell 1830))  and Mary ( born c. 1780 married to a Murdoch Currie around 1800)

Coll Lamont emigrated to Canada in 1851 to the Cheltenham district of Peel County, Ontario. In 1854 he moved to Saugeen township, Bruce County.  He died in 1861 and is buried in Port Elgin Ontario.  

Coll Lamont's wife was Mary Currie.  

Mary Currie was born about 1794 possibly on Baluve Farm in Kilmeny.  Mary died in 1877 ( three weeks after her brother) and is buried in Port Elgin. 

Children of Coll Lamont and Mary Currie  ( all born in Kilmeny) were Mary 1826, Gilbert 1829, Donald 1833 ( my gg grandfather), Janet 1834 and Flora 1840. No baptisms have been found. 


Mary Currie had a brother Donald Currie ( 1806-1877).  He emigrated to the Cheltenham area of Peel County in the early 1830s. ( guess)  He married Sarah ( Marion ) Campbell daughter of John Campbell and Catharine Sinclair on 25 Feb 1836 in Chinguacousy Township, Peel County, Ontario.  Children of Donald Currie and Sarah Campbell were Flora 1836, John 1838, Dugald 1839, Catharine 1841,Alexander 1843, George 1844, Janet 1846, Donald 1848, Colin 1850, Lachlan 1852, Neil 1854 and Mary Anne 1856 .  Donald Currie and family moved to Saugeen Township in 1854.  He died in 1877 and is buried in Port Elgin. 

I don't know who are the parents of Mary and Donald Currie.  I also don't know who their other siblings were.  

One possible sibling or cousin of Mary and Donald Currie is Alexander Currie born c. 1798 who married Mary Bowie.  He emigrated to Canada in 1851 ( same year as Mary Currie) and settled in Egremont Township. Some of my cousins have dna matches to the descendants of this Alexander Currie. 

Since I have no church records for my ancestors, I am very lucky that they show up on the 1841 and 1851 census.  I have an obit for my ggg grandmother Mary Currie ( wife of Coll Lamont) and her brother Donald.  Mary had been baptized in the Saugeen River in 1869 by a Baptist minister.  

Anne Goeden 


Re: McAulays

Allan Moore
 

Paul

Thanks, my GED Match # is A136996





On Jan 31, 2020, at 15:47, Paul MacAuley <pmacauley@...> wrote:


Allan,
I set up my GEDmatch  account:  the reference numbers are  EL5733646 (Ancestry) and LN6358810 (FTDNA).

Please let me know yours.

Paul


From: Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io <Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io> on behalf of Allan Moore <agmoore21@...>
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2020 10:31 PM
To: Islay@scotland-genealogy.groups.io <Islay@scotland-genealogy.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Islay] McAulays
 
Hi Paul

Do you have a GEDMATCH reference number?

Allan

On Jan 29, 2020, at 16:42, Paul MacAuley <pmacauley@...> wrote:

My great great grandfather Duncan McAulay was born in Kilchoman, whether the parish or the town is not clear, around 1795 according to the 1851 Scottish census.  He married Rachel McLellan - this is from Scotland's people:  "Duncan McAulay, joiner, in Glasgow & Rachael McLelland, residing there, married 4th June [1824] by Mr. Kenneth McKenzie, Gaelic Minister, in Gorbals."

His son Angus, my great grandfather, was born in Edinburgh in 1825.  While researching, I found an old  message posted on a MacAulay message board that someone owned a book about the Quakers with this inscription:  "Angus MacAulay/ Plasterer/ Edinborough Scotland/ 1875" and "Duncan MacAulay/ Rachel McLearan/ Born Kilnehearn/ Island of Isla." Elsewhere is written "Angus MacAulay/ Glasgow" and "Chester" (presumably Chester, Delaware County, PA)."  My  great grandfather, Angus was a plasterer by trade and he emigrated to Chester.  I don't know if Kilnehearn is a name Rachael had before marriage or if she might have been adopted or the name of a farm.  How frustrating that I couldn't track down that book.

It seems that there are two groups of McAulays on Islay - Those from Kilchoman and those from Portnahaven, who may make their living on the water.  They're not far apart (at least as the crow flies) and I've wondered about a link between the the two groups.   

 Through DNA testing, I see that I have a great many relatives in Ireland.  I suspect that my McAulays may have come from Ireland and later emigrated to Islay.  My great grandfather Angus spoke Scots Gaelic, played the bagpipe (probably much to the chagrin of his neighbors) and was married by a Free Church minister in Glasgow.    

If anyone knows anything about Duncan and the children from is first marriage, I would love to hear from you.

Thanks,
Paul