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Re: McAulays

Paul MacAuley
 

​Hi Allan,

I don't quite yet, but I am working on it

Paul

From: Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io <Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io> on behalf of Allan Moore <agmoore21@...>
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2020 10:31 PM
To: Islay@scotland-genealogy.groups.io <Islay@scotland-genealogy.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Islay] McAulays
 
Hi Paul

Do you have a GEDMATCH reference number?

Allan

On Jan 29, 2020, at 16:42, Paul MacAuley <pmacauley@...> wrote:

My great great grandfather Duncan McAulay was born in Kilchoman, whether the parish or the town is not clear, around 1795 according to the 1851 Scottish census.  He married Rachel McLellan - this is from Scotland's people:  "Duncan McAulay, joiner, in Glasgow & Rachael McLelland, residing there, married 4th June [1824] by Mr. Kenneth McKenzie, Gaelic Minister, in Gorbals."

His son Angus, my great grandfather, was born in Edinburgh in 1825.  While researching, I found an old  message posted on a MacAulay message board that someone owned a book about the Quakers with this inscription:  "Angus MacAulay/ Plasterer/ Edinborough Scotland/ 1875" and "Duncan MacAulay/ Rachel McLearan/ Born Kilnehearn/ Island of Isla." Elsewhere is written "Angus MacAulay/ Glasgow" and "Chester" (presumably Chester, Delaware County, PA)."  My  great grandfather, Angus was a plasterer by trade and he emigrated to Chester.  I don't know if Kilnehearn is a name Rachael had before marriage or if she might have been adopted or the name of a farm.  How frustrating that I couldn't track down that book.

It seems that there are two groups of McAulays on Islay - Those from Kilchoman and those from Portnahaven, who may make their living on the water.  They're not far apart (at least as the crow flies) and I've wondered about a link between the the two groups.   

 Through DNA testing, I see that I have a great many relatives in Ireland.  I suspect that my McAulays may have come from Ireland and later emigrated to Islay.  My great grandfather Angus spoke Scots Gaelic, played the bagpipe (probably much to the chagrin of his neighbors) and was married by a Free Church minister in Glasgow.    

If anyone knows anything about Duncan and the children from is first marriage, I would love to hear from you.

Thanks,
Paul

Re: Roll Call - McAulay/McCalman

mearnsmg@btinternet.com
 

Thanks Allam, Harry has provided some info on the Dows, so that mystey is solved. I have not come across any Kennedy connections will keep you posted if I do.


Regards

Mike




------ Original Message ------
From: "Allan Moore" <agmoore21@...>
To: Islay@scotland-genealogy.groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, 29 Jan, 2020 At 03:20
Subject: Re: [Islay] Roll Call - McAulay/McCalman

Thanks for this Mike

Just FYI, Dow is an alternative to McCalman.

If you come across any Kennedy connections in your search, please let me know?

Regards
Allan
Re: Islay Researchers

m.c.stancer@...
 

hi Iain
it appears that I'm not on the list.
my research interests are Peter GILCHRIST (1790-1855) from Kildalton and his wife Mary BROWN (1789-1874) my 3x great grandparents.
I'm descended through their daughter Margaret GILCHRIST (c1832-1893).
this is part of my grandfather's branch

also another branch of my family on my grandmother's side were FERGUSON who I've been unable to positively prove on paper.  just stories from my grandmother about John Ferguson (born about 1800), her great grandfather, who was from Islay. his boat sank while he was fishing and he washed up on the Antrim coast, and stayed in Ireland.  I don't know who his parents were so probably will forever remain a mystery.

thank you
Marcia Stancer
Re: McAulays

Allan Moore
 

Hi Paul

Do you have a GEDMATCH reference number?

Allan

On Jan 29, 2020, at 16:42, Paul MacAuley <pmacauley@...> wrote:

My great great grandfather Duncan McAulay was born in Kilchoman, whether the parish or the town is not clear, around 1795 according to the 1851 Scottish census.  He married Rachel McLellan - this is from Scotland's people:  "Duncan McAulay, joiner, in Glasgow & Rachael McLelland, residing there, married 4th June [1824] by Mr. Kenneth McKenzie, Gaelic Minister, in Gorbals."

His son Angus, my great grandfather, was born in Edinburgh in 1825.  While researching, I found an old  message posted on a MacAulay message board that someone owned a book about the Quakers with this inscription:  "Angus MacAulay/ Plasterer/ Edinborough Scotland/ 1875" and "Duncan MacAulay/ Rachel McLearan/ Born Kilnehearn/ Island of Isla." Elsewhere is written "Angus MacAulay/ Glasgow" and "Chester" (presumably Chester, Delaware County, PA)."  My  great grandfather, Angus was a plasterer by trade and he emigrated to Chester.  I don't know if Kilnehearn is a name Rachael had before marriage or if she might have been adopted or the name of a farm.  How frustrating that I couldn't track down that book.

It seems that there are two groups of McAulays on Islay - Those from Kilchoman and those from Portnahaven, who may make their living on the water.  They're not far apart (at least as the crow flies) and I've wondered about a link between the the two groups.   

 Through DNA testing, I see that I have a great many relatives in Ireland.  I suspect that my McAulays may have come from Ireland and later emigrated to Islay.  My great grandfather Angus spoke Scots Gaelic, played the bagpipe (probably much to the chagrin of his neighbors) and was married by a Free Church minister in Glasgow.    

If anyone knows anything about Duncan and the children from is first marriage, I would love to hear from you.

Thanks,
Paul

McAulays

Paul MacAuley
 

My great great grandfather Duncan McAulay was born in Kilchoman, whether the parish or the town is not clear, around 1795 according to the 1851 Scottish census.  He married Rachel McLellan - this is from Scotland's people:  "Duncan McAulay, joiner, in Glasgow & Rachael McLelland, residing there, married 4th June [1824] by Mr. Kenneth McKenzie, Gaelic Minister, in Gorbals."

His son Angus, my great grandfather, was born in Edinburgh in 1825.  While researching, I found an old  message posted on a MacAulay message board that someone owned a book about the Quakers with this inscription:  "Angus MacAulay/ Plasterer/ Edinborough Scotland/ 1875" and "Duncan MacAulay/ Rachel McLearan/ Born Kilnehearn/ Island of Isla." Elsewhere is written "Angus MacAulay/ Glasgow" and "Chester" (presumably Chester, Delaware County, PA)."  My  great grandfather, Angus was a plasterer by trade and he emigrated to Chester.  I don't know if Kilnehearn is a name Rachael had before marriage or if she might have been adopted or the name of a farm.  How frustrating that I couldn't track down that book.

It seems that there are two groups of McAulays on Islay - Those from Kilchoman and those from Portnahaven, who may make their living on the water.  They're not far apart (at least as the crow flies) and I've wondered about a link between the the two groups.   

 Through DNA testing, I see that I have a great many relatives in Ireland.  I suspect that my McAulays may have come from Ireland and later emigrated to Islay.  My great grandfather Angus spoke Scots Gaelic, played the bagpipe (probably much to the chagrin of his neighbors) and was married by a Free Church minister in Glasgow.    

If anyone knows anything about Duncan and the children from is first marriage, I would love to hear from you.

Thanks,
Paul
Re: Ballantrae, Ontario

Sue Visser
 

An FYI to the list – the postcard is going to Russ but if anyone wants a scanned copy, please contact me off list at genealgal2 AT execulink.com
 

From: Russ McGillivray
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2020 12:48 PM
To: Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Islay] Ballantrae, Ontario
 

Sue,

I have lots of relatives that lived in Ballantrae, but not from the Islay side of my tree.

Could you scan the postcard?

 

Russ

 

From: Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io [mailto:Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sue Visser
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2020 12:34 PM
To: GEN LIST - ISLAY
Subject: [Islay] Ballantrae, Ontario

 

Did anyone have Islay ancestors who settled in Ballantrae, Ontario?  I have an old postcard for the first person to reply.

 

Cheers,

Sue Visser

 
roll call / Mcdougall,Campbell,Mcgillvray,Mcdonald.

E J Bateson
 

my Grannie, Jessie minnie jane Davidson b.26th oct 1890 Port Ellen
her mother my great grannie Jessie Campbell b17th march 1857 Kildalton (born illegitimate as Mcdougall)
Jessie Campbells mother Jane Mcdougall b circa 1832 kildalton/died Ariglass Iona 1/6/1865
Jessie Campbells father Alexander Campbell b 3/5/1800 Bailenachtinmore islay d 30/11/1862 Trudernish Kildalton
Jane Mcdougalls parents Alexander 1778-1873 and Jane ms McDonald 1790-1862

john bateson,
Flora Keith

Merle Duncan
 

I have reached a brick wall with my ancestor Flora Keith. I have a baptismal record for Janet McFadgen Apr 18 1805 stating her father's name as John McFadean and place of birth as Knock. A previous inquiry to this list got the following info: Knock is cnoc Raonistil and her probable mother is Flora Keith. This info was provided by Roger McWee several years ago. My search since for Flora Keith has not proved fruitful. Can anyone send me in the right direction?
Re: Ballantrae, Ontario

Sue Visser
 

Hi Russ
I can scan it or send it to you.  It was used as a bookmark in an old book I’d bought.  I don’t have family in that area so would rather it goes to someone who’d appreciate it.
Sue
 

From: Russ McGillivray
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2020 12:48 PM
To: Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Islay] Ballantrae, Ontario
 

Sue,

I have lots of relatives that lived in Ballantrae, but not from the Islay side of my tree.

Could you scan the postcard?

 

Russ

 

From: Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io [mailto:Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sue Visser
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2020 12:34 PM
To: GEN LIST - ISLAY
Subject: [Islay] Ballantrae, Ontario

 

Did anyone have Islay ancestors who settled in Ballantrae, Ontario?  I have an old postcard for the first person to reply.

 

Cheers,

Sue Visser

 
Re: PAF software

Russ McGillivray
 

Ken,

I upgraded from PAF to Legacy years ago and would recommend it.

There is a free version of Legacy that has almost all of the functionality of the Deluxe version.

The Deluxe only costs about $25 so is not going to break the bank if you decide later you want to buy it.

Legacy has an import specifically for a gedcom coming from PAF.

I suggest you try uploading a gedcom to the free version and see how you like it.

It won’t be perfect – if you want I can look at the notes I made to see what manual cleanup I had to do.

 

Russ

 

From: Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io [mailto:Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ken Harrison
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2020 6:49 PM
To: Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Islay] PAF software

 

Thank you to all those who wrote to confirm that PAF works fine in Win10

 

Ken Harrison

North Vancouver, Canada

 
Re: Ballantrae, Ontario

Russ McGillivray
 

Sue,

I have lots of relatives that lived in Ballantrae, but not from the Islay side of my tree.

Could you scan the postcard?

 

Russ

 

From: Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io [mailto:Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sue Visser
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2020 12:34 PM
To: GEN LIST - ISLAY
Subject: [Islay] Ballantrae, Ontario

 

Did anyone have Islay ancestors who settled in Ballantrae, Ontario?  I have an old postcard for the first person to reply.

 

Cheers,

Sue Visser

 
Apsley, Ontario

Sue Visser
 

Did anyone have Islay ancestors who settled in Apsley, Ontario.  The first to reply can have an old postcard.
 
Cheers,
Sue
Ballantrae, Ontario

Sue Visser
 

Did anyone have Islay ancestors who settled in Ballantrae, Ontario?  I have an old postcard for the first person to reply.
 
Cheers,
Sue Visser
 
McAulay Kilchoman and variations

Paul MacAuley
 

McAulay
I agree that it would be helpful if the names of those one is researching is more prominent in the roll call reply so I am doing mine again.
Paul
Re: PAF software

Valorie Zimmerman
 

On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 1:44 PM Ken Harrison <kenharrison43@...> wrote:

I’d appreciate some advice from others who have gone before me on this.  I have resisted upgrading from Win7 out of fear that some (all?) of my old software would not work under Win10.

I’m being forced to make the move now, and wonder about PAF5.


Please export a GEDCOM before you upgrade! It will not get some of your data out, but it will get the basics. And any genealogy program and most websites will accept the upload of a Gedcom. Name it: Project.ged and if there are multiple versions of gedcoms you can export, do them all. You never know!

Valorie

I know that it is no longer available, and is not supported, and has not been replaced with anything else, so …

 

Have any of you found that it will/won’t operate under Win10?

If not, what is the best alternative, given that I will need to import all my data on over 29,000 persons?  I know in the past that some of the popular knock-offs did not support all the fields in PAF (birth and Bap, death & burial, etc).

 

Any general advice?  I’m sure several others are in a similar situation …

 

Ken Harrison

North Vancouver, Canada
Re: Roll Call - McAulay/McCalman

Allan Moore
 

Thanks for this Mike

Just FYI, Dow is an alternative to McCalman. 

If you come across any Kennedy connections in your search, please let me know?

Regards
Allan

On Jan 28, 2020, at 17:28, mearnsmg@... via Groups.Io <mearnsmg@...> wrote:


Hi Harry, Allan,


I have been "researching" my GGrandmother Jane McAulay, born Portnahaven 1828. I have come across a couple of links with the McCalmans. A Mary McAulay married a Hugh McCalman on 27/12/1838, Mary died on 23/8/1893 her death registered by a niece Mary Dow??. I believe Hugh died before the 1851 Census.


Also, a Donald McCalman married a Mary McAulay, there were, at least 2 children Charles (b 5/8/1872) and Duncan (b 22/1/1874) both born at Carnain, Kilarrow. Both their birth records state that Donald & Mary married on 3/10/1871 in Greenock (I assume Renfrewshire), but I have not found a marriage record to get their respective parents.


Regards

Mike Mearns, Kent England






------ Original Message ------
From: "Allan Moore" <agmoore21@...>
To: Islay@scotland-genealogy.groups.io
Sent: Sunday, 26 Jan, 2020 At 18:05
Subject: Re: [Islay] Roll Call

Hi Harry

I have the same interests as you, as my paternal G—Grandparent was a McCalman. There seems to be a lot of confusion when I go back as there is confusion in that line between McAulay and Kennedy!

I will do a little information straightening out so I can put the problem on paper to forward it to you.
My DNA test revealed that my closest relative is a Kennedy and I have no written record of the link.

Thanks
Allan

On Jan 26, 2020, at 09:17, harry mccalman <mccdallas@...> wrote:



Hi All My interests are McCalman, MacAuley, Dow all of Loch Gruinart Area
Regards HJD McCalman
Re: Roll Call - McAulay/McCalman

mearnsmg@btinternet.com
 

Hi Harry, Allan,


I have been "researching" my GGrandmother Jane McAulay, born Portnahaven 1828. I have come across a couple of links with the McCalmans. A Mary McAulay married a Hugh McCalman on 27/12/1838, Mary died on 23/8/1893 her death registered by a niece Mary Dow??. I believe Hugh died before the 1851 Census.


Also, a Donald McCalman married a Mary McAulay, there were, at least 2 children Charles (b 5/8/1872) and Duncan (b 22/1/1874) both born at Carnain, Kilarrow. Both their birth records state that Donald & Mary married on 3/10/1871 in Greenock (I assume Renfrewshire), but I have not found a marriage record to get their respective parents.


Regards

Mike Mearns, Kent England






------ Original Message ------
From: "Allan Moore" <agmoore21@...>
To: Islay@scotland-genealogy.groups.io
Sent: Sunday, 26 Jan, 2020 At 18:05
Subject: Re: [Islay] Roll Call

Hi Harry

I have the same interests as you, as my paternal G—Grandparent was a McCalman. There seems to be a lot of confusion when I go back as there is confusion in that line between McAulay and Kennedy!

I will do a little information straightening out so I can put the problem on paper to forward it to you.
My DNA test revealed that my closest relative is a Kennedy and I have no written record of the link.

Thanks
Allan

On Jan 26, 2020, at 09:17, harry mccalman <mccdallas@...> wrote:



Hi All My interests are McCalman, MacAuley, Dow all of Loch Gruinart Area
Regards HJD McCalman
Re: PAF software

Ken Harrison
 

Thank you to all those who wrote to confirm that PAF works fine in Win10

 

Ken Harrison

North Vancouver, Canada

 
Islay-Currie/McNevin

Dianne Taeckens
 

It looks like I am getting near the last to answer to the Roll Call email.  My family name connection to Islay include Currie, McNevin (which I know is spelled multiple ways), McArthur, McDermid, McIntyre, McAulay.  I have had the pleasure of visiting Islay but, unfortunately, only found possible relatives in the cemeteries.  I live in Michigan and am a descendant of the same families as another member of this group, Lynn Seamark.

 

 

Neil Currie (1811-1875) m. Christina McNevin – they are my 2x great grandparents.  They were from Kilchoman.  I was fortunate to visit the remans of the church where they were married on Islay.  They left Islay for Erin Twp, Ontario, with their three children (Gilbert, Jane & John) as well as Neil’s brother Peter Currie and his wife Jane McNevin (sister of Christina) and their five children.   Later Christina came to Michigan with her son Peter Currie (my great grandfather) and his family.

 

Neil Currie’s parents were Gilbert Currie (1769-1828) and Margaret McArthur (1773-1861).  Margaret’s parents are James McArthur & Catherine McDermid.  Gilbert’s parents are unknown. 

 

Christina McNevin’s parents are Archibald McNevin (1786-1851) and Jane Vise McIntyre (1782-1864).  Archibald’s father was Alexander McNevin (1750-?).  Jane’s parents were John McIntyre (1761-?) and Susan McAulay (1761-?). 

 

 

 

 

Dianne

 

Dianne Taeckens

 

 
Re: PAF software

Alasdair Mcdougall
 

Ken, yes PAF 5 will work on Windows 10
Alasdair McDougall


-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Harrison <kenharrison43@...>
To: Yorksgen <Yorksgen@groups.io>; lanark <lanark@...>; Islay <Islay@Scotland-Genealogy.groups.io>
Sent: Tue, 28 Jan 2020 21:44
Subject: Re: [Islay] PAF software

I’d appreciate some advice from others who have gone before me on this.  I have resisted upgrading from Win7 out of fear that some (all?) of my old software would not work under Win10.
I’m being forced to make the move now, and wonder about PAF5.
I know that it is no longer available, and is not supported, and has not been replaced with anything else, so …
 
Have any of you found that it will/won’t operate under Win10?
If not, what is the best alternative, given that I will need to import all my data on over 29,000 persons?  I know in the past that some of the popular knock-offs did not support all the fields in PAF (birth and Bap, death & burial, etc).
 
Any general advice?  I’m sure several others are in a similar situation …
 
Ken Harrison
North Vancouver, Canada
 
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